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Greenwich Hospital barge of 1832 by druxey - FINISHED - 1:48 scale


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Hi Carl

 

Here is one, https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/69797/royal-barge, just klick the pics, as nr. 8 comes one shot of the inside.

 

Regards

Gerhard

 

PS.: Just found that wonderful drawings, maybe from a reconstruction of the barge. http://www.clairescully.com/editorial/#/national-maritime-museum/

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German Schnellboot TIGER P6141 VTH plans, scratch

 

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Carl: the photo I referred to is on

 

http://uk-england-guides.blogspot.com

 

Gerhard: thanks for those links. The inside photo I mention is of the rowing area, not the cabin.

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Danke Gerhard,

 

Thanks Druxey

that blogspot site kept on sending me to a for me unreadable site. The title was written like this:

เที่ยวอังกฤษด้วยตัวเอง

 

pitty ... you win some you loose some (blasted 'intelligent' sites)

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Correct site, you need to find the National Maritime Museum link under the Red Greenwich heading. It is about 2/5ths down the page about where the righthand adds column ends. Click on the link and it is the 5th photo on the new page. I would have simple pasted the link but IE11 does not allow me to copy and paste into these replies.

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hi Druxey

the boards down the centre resting on the thwarts and little columns will be interesting to make too with the detail on the sides, there appears to be a frame down the sides holding the vertical footboards and under the thwarts and I'm guessing holding the floorboards up as well

I was also studying the plan for a 40ft barge for his majesty ZAZ7154 which also has the scantlings down the side, and mentions athwartships floorboards, not sure if you saw that one or if it as any help

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Yes, that's more-or-less my 'take' on it as well, Paul. However, the floorboards rest on the keelson and their outer ends against the frames. I had already mentioned ZAZ7154 in post #177, a useful reference.

 

Joel: my carving proficiency will never equal that of Mr. Gibbons!

 

Carl: I hope you found the reference with help from Endlesshunt.

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So, back to work. I cut strips of footwaling to scale size, then cut a trial piece. This is exactly 4' 0" long, whether by design or coincidence I'm not sure. The actual footwaling will be painted a subdued maroon color, rather than the bright red of ships' bulwarks. There is evidence of this in paintings as well as on the state barge of Charles II, although this boat is obviously earlier and has been heavily restored.

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Danke Gerhard,

 

Thanks Druxey

that blogspot site kept on sending me to a for me unreadable site. The title was written like this:

เที่ยวอังกฤษด้วยตัวเอง

 

pitty ... you win some you loose some (blasted 'intelligent' sites)

 

At least in Chrome, you can right click on the page and select Translate to English.

 

Richard

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Hi All

 

I found this drawings by searching for "Prince frederick barge" at google pics https://www.google.at/search?q=prince+frederick+barge&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjrodf_yKHLAhUG_HIKHSW1AYUQsAQIPg&biw=1270&bih=899#imgrc=_ A lot more of photos there.

 

Regards

Gerhard

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Models in progress

SMS DANZIG

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12842-sms-danzig-1851-by-gerhardvienna-radio-150-scale/

USS CAIRO

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13282-uss-cairo-by-gerhardvienna-live-steam-radio/

Baby Bootlegger 1/10

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13625-baby-bootlegger-110-radio-by-gerhardvienna/

 

Swiss paddlesteamer RIGI 1848 1:50, after plans from the Verkehrshaus Zürich, rescaled to original length

Anchor tugboat BISON, 1:50, plans from VTH, scratch

Finished models

See-Ewer ELBE, Constructo kit 1:48

German fastboat after plans from german Reichskriegsmarine measure unknown (too ugly to show up!)

German traffic boat for battleships WW2, 1:50, after plans from Jürgen Eichardt, scratch

German Schnellboot TIGER P6141 VTH plans, scratch

 

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Hi druxey

 

The Greenwich Hospital barge has less carvings, to do that much stuff would possible take me some years. But I dont know, what will be my next after the Danzig and the Rigi. As I`m a young boy of 58, I will maybe have time for that :D .

 

Regards

Gerhard 

Problems just mean: solutions not yet found

 

Models in progress

SMS DANZIG

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12842-sms-danzig-1851-by-gerhardvienna-radio-150-scale/

USS CAIRO

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13282-uss-cairo-by-gerhardvienna-live-steam-radio/

Baby Bootlegger 1/10

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13625-baby-bootlegger-110-radio-by-gerhardvienna/

 

Swiss paddlesteamer RIGI 1848 1:50, after plans from the Verkehrshaus Zürich, rescaled to original length

Anchor tugboat BISON, 1:50, plans from VTH, scratch

Finished models

See-Ewer ELBE, Constructo kit 1:48

German fastboat after plans from german Reichskriegsmarine measure unknown (too ugly to show up!)

German traffic boat for battleships WW2, 1:50, after plans from Jürgen Eichardt, scratch

German Schnellboot TIGER P6141 VTH plans, scratch

 

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sorry druxey yes of course you did, i should know that as i replied to it, in my defence i have an excuse, ive had a stroke that's how I found the time to restart the syrius!! what i meant to say was had you seen the drawing of the lord mayors ceremonial barge, a lot more decoration than the hospital barge but pretty interesting

The clerk of the cheque's yacht of sheerness

Current build HMS Sirius (1797) 1:48 scratch POF from NMM plans

HMS Winchelsea by chuck 1:48

Cutter cheerful by chuck 1:48

Previous builds-

Elidir - Thames steam barge

Cutty Sark-Billings boats

Wasa - billings boats

Among others 😁

 

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Time for a progress photo. It shows a 'stand-in' footwaling piece positioned so that the first pre-painted board is correctly placed. The pre-painted strips, 10" wide and ⅝" thick are also shown in this photo.

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5/8th at 1:48 scale =.013" Fine work indeed sir!

 

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Just curious:

Would there have been a riser below these foot boards?  It would have supported the ends nicely and given a locator for the later modelmaker.

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The footwaling is now complete, after making a false start. I initially tried cutting and bevelling each board to length in situ. The result, as you can see, was not pretty. Having thought things through, I then made a card template which was used to actually attach the boards to. When complete, I channelled out the card so that the boards would sit at the correct height on the keelson, then glued the assembly in. This gave a much improved result.

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Clever move.

It is all about the conformity of lines...our eyes are very picky when it comes to anomalies, right?

 

Lovely little bark, I must say. Makes me almost wanna try our Swedish cousin...but then again, no. Not yet, anyway.

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Druxey,

 

Again an unexpected solution, with a marvelous result.

 

The boards which are not supported by a frame would be wobbly - as far as I can see - as they miss the support at the sides, or is ther another support, or fixture between the boards ...?

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Carl

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You're building one awesome looking ship, Druxey.

 

Mike

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I'm sure that there would have been battens of some sort to support the footwaling plank ends in the actual boat, Carl and Joel. As these would be hidden (as are the floor/futtock joints), I omitted them.

 

Thanks, everyone, for your continued interest and likes.

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Time for a small update. The cabin floor was made in the same way as that for the forward section of the footwaling. In this case the wood was left 'bright' and the joints slightly enhanced using pencil lead. The finish was dilute sanding sealer. The footwaling aft of the cabin will be installed at a higher level, with a small scuttle for access. Some pattern-making will first be required, though.

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Hello again,

 

I googled a little and found these pictures of prince Frederick's barge

 

https://blog.firedrake.org/archive/2015/01/7527.jpg

 

https://blog.firedrake.org/archive/2015/01/7531.jpg

 

Regards,

Siggi

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That second photograph (https://blog.firedra...015/01/7531.jpg) should answer your own question, Siggi. Thanks for the link: that particular image hadn't turned up for me when I searched.

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I am anxiously waiting to see how you trim her out

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