KeithAug Posted November 25, 2016 Share #61 Posted November 25, 2016 Beautiful work Alex. I was intrigued by the press for the hull plates. You refer to 'poverhnostyami.Izgotavlivayu stamp" but i can't find a translation. Did you make the press and if so how? Keith PeteB and mtaylor 2 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexBaranov Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share #62 Posted November 25, 2016 Hello. Sorry for the mistake ... I had in mind the production of finishing surfaces. It always turns out in a hurry. when they speak directly .... Haste needed when catching fleas and diarrhea. The stamp is made on CNC milling machine. I used the high-carbon steel. Then I stamped tempered at a temperature of 800 degrees. After stopping the reaction is released at a temperature of 250 - 300 degrees. The press turned out of the rut and special molds. The mold is made of steel 45. I will show the manufacturing process (stamping brass sheets). The sheets already cut to size. 0.3 mm thick sheet. Mike Y, KeithAug, aviaamator and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexBaranov Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share #63 Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) I began to stamp sheets underwater casing ... Edited November 27, 2016 by AlexBaranov igorcap, aviaamator, Mirabell61 and 24 others 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviaamator Posted November 27, 2016 Share #64 Posted November 27, 2016 Alex! Great! The stamp works very well! mtaylor and PeteB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert Posted November 27, 2016 Share #65 Posted November 27, 2016 Hi Alex very nice stamp work. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexBaranov Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share #66 Posted November 27, 2016 I made stamps from solid high carbon steel with heat treatment. It was the most difficult process of work. igorcap, Mirabell61, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted November 27, 2016 Share #67 Posted November 27, 2016 Hi Alex, great work with the metal stamp and it`s heattreatment process, looks like it will have a long stand time. What thickness are your brass plates, and do you have to aneal those for stamping ? Nils mtaylor 1 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexBaranov Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share #68 Posted November 27, 2016 I used brass rolled 0.3 mm. Brand PM 63 Mirabell61 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted November 27, 2016 Share #69 Posted November 27, 2016 Those stamps are beautiful Alex. How did you add the dimples on the positive face? They are perfectly placed. Was this done by CNC? mtaylor and druxey 2 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted November 27, 2016 Share #70 Posted November 27, 2016 Alex I went looking for the brass that you specified, because it looked like it stretched very nicely I did fine one supplier in the Ukraine, did you use a strip of rolled brass or was it a sheet that you cut into the plates? Fantastic work on the die. Michael mtaylor and druxey 2 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igorcap Posted November 30, 2016 Share #71 Posted November 30, 2016 I began to stamp sheets underwater casing ... Secret technology is very interesting I like ! aviaamator and mtaylor 2 Quote Igor ------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted November 30, 2016 Share #72 Posted November 30, 2016 Could one make one die and simply back it up with a piece of lead, rather than having to machine two matching dies perfectly? mtaylor 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexBaranov Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share #73 Posted November 30, 2016 Hi Alex, great work with the metal stamp and it`s heattreatment process, looks like it will have a long stand time. What thickness are your brass plates, and do you have to aneal those for stamping ? Nils Hello Nils. I use a sheet of brass rolled thickness of 0.3 mm.Dlya smaller models is convenient to use a sheet thickness of 0.2 - 0.25 mm. igorcap, Mirabell61 and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexBaranov Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share #74 Posted November 30, 2016 Those stamps are beautiful Alex. How did you add the dimples on the positive face? They are perfectly placed. Was this done by CNC? Hi Greg. Yes indeed. I'm using CNC machine for die manufacturing. igorcap and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexBaranov Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share #75 Posted November 30, 2016 Could one make one die and simply back it up with a piece of lead, rather than having to machine two matching dies perfectly? No. Lead use is not desirable. I tried to get bad. For the "mom" is better to use a solid metal. I tried the aluminum but it quickly wears out. So I began to use steel 45. PeteB, mtaylor, druxey and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexBaranov Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share #76 Posted November 30, 2016 Secret technology is very interesting I like ! Technology is no longer a secret. I did not strain your brain. Our dear great friend Dr. Michael long ago came up with the technology. Dr. Michael kindly told me all the details of the technology. However, it was always just the improvement in my repertoire. I added a digital technology and better materials. So my merit is not great. igorcap, PeteB and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexBaranov Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share #77 Posted November 30, 2016 Alex I went looking for the brass that you specified, because it looked like it stretched very nicely I did fine one supplier in the Ukraine, did you use a strip of rolled brass or was it a sheet that you cut into the plates? Fantastic work on the die. Michael Hi Michael. I bought a brass rolling here: https://www.olx.ua/obyavlenie/latun-prokat-v-assortimnte-IDn2Xdv.html#2b6c22e261 mtaylor and PeteB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted December 1, 2016 Share #78 Posted December 1, 2016 Thanks for your opinion of using lead, Alex. mtaylor and PeteB 2 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted December 1, 2016 Share #79 Posted December 1, 2016 Alex thank you for the link. Michael PeteB and mtaylor 2 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexBaranov Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share #80 Posted December 10, 2016 No less than two months of work ahead ... stamp sheets underwater routers endless panels. Older vise broke. That bought new that will break the already problematic. dj.bobo, druxey, albert and 19 others 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert Posted December 10, 2016 Share #81 Posted December 10, 2016 Great work Alex, very nice. PeteB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted December 10, 2016 Share #82 Posted December 10, 2016 Alex, those panels are beautifully executed! Michael mtaylor, PeteB and druxey 3 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexBaranov Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share #83 Posted December 19, 2016 beginning underwater casing PeteB, tlevine, igorcap and 25 others 28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted December 21, 2016 Share #84 Posted December 21, 2016 Good morning Alex, beauitiful work your plating looks very neat, what kind of glue are you using, is it a contact type glue, or CA ? Is there a certain reason that you are plating from bow in direction stern instead of opposite direction, so the vertical overlapping is not exposed to the onstreaming water ? Nils mtaylor and mmdd 2 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviaamator Posted December 21, 2016 Share #85 Posted December 21, 2016 Alex! What width planks topside of the Board? Does it scale? mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted December 21, 2016 Share #86 Posted December 21, 2016 Beautiful execution and excellent workmanship ! However ... the Muntz-metal sheathing would not have had raised nail-heads I think. Not sure how the plates were fixed to the isolating wood layer, but assume they would have been nailed like in the older days. It was important to achieve a galvanic separation between the Muntz-metal and the iron/steel plating underneath. When the plates are nailed down on the wood (with a layer of felt in between), the pattern looks a bit like on a deep-buttoned Chesterfield sofa. One can see this on the copper sheathing of HMS GANNET (1878) in Chatham: coxswain, michael mott, aviaamator and 7 others 10 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexBaranov Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share #87 Posted December 25, 2016 Good morning Alex, beauitiful work your plating looks very neat, what kind of glue are you using, is it a contact type glue, or CA ? Is there a certain reason that you are plating from bow in direction stern instead of opposite direction, so the vertical overlapping is not exposed to the onstreaming water ? Nils Hello Nils I stuck to the sheets of adhesive cyanoacrylate. Layouts corresponds to the project. Mirabell61 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexBaranov Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share #88 Posted December 25, 2016 Alex! What width planks topside of the Board? Does it scale? This is not the width of the board. This is the width of the metal sheet. Between the metal strip (pad) is added to belts sheets. The case will be processed in such a way to mimic the smooth metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexBaranov Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share #89 Posted December 25, 2016 Beautiful execution and excellent workmanship ! However ... the Muntz-metal sheathing would not have had raised nail-heads I think. Not sure how the plates were fixed to the isolating wood layer, but assume they would have been nailed like in the older days. It was important to achieve a galvanic separation between the Muntz-metal and the iron/steel plating underneath. When the plates are nailed down on the wood (with a layer of felt in between), the pattern looks a bit like on a deep-buttoned Chesterfield sofa. One can see this on the copper sheathing of HMS GANNET (1878) in Chatham: Hello wefalck Of course, you're absolutely right in terms of the historical reality in terms of engineering performance copies of this ship. However, at such a small scale to try to do so as the present, the real ship is not possible. In addition, it should not be done. I do not make a real ship. I'm trying to create a model of the ship and it is above all the image of a real ship. The model is first and foremost a work of applied art. My task is to convey accurately the artistic image, the spirit of a real ship. Therefore (after the experiment), I chose the most successful variant (close to reality), which would correspond to the artistic concept model. Special thanks for the excellent photos. I already took this photo in my archive. Very useful for creating a model in 1:24 scale (at least !!!) cog, Landlubber Mike, mtaylor and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviaamator Posted December 25, 2016 Share #90 Posted December 25, 2016 Got it! Thank you! mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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