Worldway Posted November 28, 2017 Share #211 Posted November 28, 2017 Wow looking good. Excellent work genericDave and Elijah 2 Quote Derek If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea Antoine de Saint Exupery Current Builds Bluenose - Model Shipways - 1:64 Scale Fair American - Model Shipways - 1:48 Scale HMS Winchelsea 1764 - Group Build On Deck Guns of History Naval Smoothbore Deck Gun - 1:24 Scale Finished Builds Mare Nostrum - Artesania Latina - 1:35 Scale Guns of History Carronade - Model Shipways - 1:24 Scale Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericDave Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share #212 Posted November 29, 2017 Thanks Derek! Your Bluenose is progressing nicely! (Although seeing all the work you had to do on the stanchions gave me flashbacks and nightmares ) Elijah 1 Quote Dave | genericDave Current Build: Model Shipways Fair American 1:48 Completed Builds: Model Shipways Bluenose 1:64 Model Shipways Phantom 1:96 Blog: Suburban Ship Modeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jond Posted December 1, 2017 Share #213 Posted December 1, 2017 Dave She is really looking good. Great idea to play with sails. I am now foolishly making my second set of sails. I tried the furling and am now thinking about fully rigged, the lower ones anyway. cheers jon Elijah and genericDave 2 Quote current build Beam Trawler Harvard 1926 Lightships of Boothbay. WAL 605 Overfalls ;Blue Dolphin Maine_ Arctic Schooner ; H G Berry_ Brigs of Boothbay; first pinky in Boothbay diorama; Bluenose 1:24 ; ernestina-morrissey-by-jond-1:48; aphrodite 1853 1st ship in boothbay ; Bowdoin diorama; dancing feather 1853 pilot schooner RC ; Boothbay Harbor One design racing sloop 1:6 radio Charles Notman 4 masted Downeast schooner 1:48 radio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericDave Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share #214 Posted December 1, 2017 Thanks Jon! I'm expecting that it will probably take me 2 or more tries to get the sails good enough that I can live with them. I've made some paper templates, and even just having those taped in place really changed the look of the ship. It certainly motivated me to try and make the sails work. I did a trial-run last night sewing the jumbo-jib sail. Unfortunately the (very, very cheap) tiny sewing machine I got died, so I'm going to get a 'real one' this weekend and give it another try. Right now I'm using some generic white cloth I bought for the test sails, and I've ordered a second set of sail cloth from Model Expo. Hopefully I'll have enough material to redo these a few times Elijah 1 Quote Dave | genericDave Current Build: Model Shipways Fair American 1:48 Completed Builds: Model Shipways Bluenose 1:64 Model Shipways Phantom 1:96 Blog: Suburban Ship Modeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted December 2, 2017 Share #215 Posted December 2, 2017 Just enjoyed reading through your log Dave, and really enjoyed it. Great work. You may have me inspired to build Bluenose for my next project. Elijah and genericDave 2 Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericDave Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share #216 Posted December 5, 2017 I think I've manage to make a sail. I started with the jumbo jib sail since it was small (wastes less fabric on each attempt), it only has 3 sides, and there are no curves. I made a paper template first, then did a test run with some random thin white fabric I picked up at the craft store. Since I had to buy a sewing machine and learn how to use it, the first two attempts with the random fabric were really just to get familiar with sewing. Once I got my confidence up, I tried making one from the actual sail cloth. It almost worked. I pulled the fabric too much while sewing, which resulted in the edges not being straight. The fourth attempt finally turned out usable. The final version fits well, and the sewing is 'good enough'. Since I've chosen the port side as my 'display side' for the ship, I did my sewing from that side so any 'ugliness' would be on the other side. I made three small rings and sewed them into the corners for securing lines. Hopefully the remaining sails don't take as many tries! Tigersteve, Fright, Elijah and 2 others 5 Quote Dave | genericDave Current Build: Model Shipways Fair American 1:48 Completed Builds: Model Shipways Bluenose 1:64 Model Shipways Phantom 1:96 Blog: Suburban Ship Modeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericDave Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share #217 Posted December 19, 2017 Making progress... I've made and installed the jumbo jib sail, fore sail, and main sail. Each one is getting easier. The jumbo jib sail took 4 tries, the fore sail took 3 tries, and the main sail just took one try. Getting my hands on a 'real' sewing machine really helped. Previously I installed and rigged the booms and gaffs, but didn't use any glue when securing the rigging. This let me make paper templates based on the actual placement of the booms and gaffs on my build. Once the sails were made, I de-rigged the booms and gaffs and removed them from the ship. The sails were laced on, and everything was re-installed. I'm actually enjoying working on the sails quite a bit. As I've been working through installing the sails, the various bits of rigging are starting to finally 'click' for me. I'm finally starting to really understand what each line does instead of just running lines according to the plans. Three sails down, five more to go! popeye the sailor, bhermann, GrandpaPhil and 5 others 8 Quote Dave | genericDave Current Build: Model Shipways Fair American 1:48 Completed Builds: Model Shipways Bluenose 1:64 Model Shipways Phantom 1:96 Blog: Suburban Ship Modeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted December 19, 2017 Share #218 Posted December 19, 2017 Dave what did you use for Hanks on the jibs? I can't wait to see what you do with the fisherman sail. That took me quite awhile to figure out the running rigging. A very unusual sail. Nice work by the way! She really is a beautiful lady. Elijah, genericDave and Nirvana 3 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fright Posted December 19, 2017 Share #219 Posted December 19, 2017 Excellent job so far! She is a real beauty. I'm looking forward to seeing her with all of her sails and glory!!! HaPpY HoLiDaYs!!! genericDave and Elijah 2 Quote Robert O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericDave Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share #220 Posted December 19, 2017 Thanks Fright! Things are going pretty fast now. Jib sail and main topsail are made and going on tonight (assuming my wife does actually work late ) Elijah 1 Quote Dave | genericDave Current Build: Model Shipways Fair American 1:48 Completed Builds: Model Shipways Bluenose 1:64 Model Shipways Phantom 1:96 Blog: Suburban Ship Modeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericDave Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share #221 Posted December 19, 2017 Fnkershner, for the hanks I just substituted rings made from brass wire. I found some at a craft store, but they were a little too big and the wrong material (I decided way back to stick with brass for all the metal fittings). I considered making some more proper hanks from the wire, but wasn’t able to make them look good at scale. Elijah 1 Quote Dave | genericDave Current Build: Model Shipways Fair American 1:48 Completed Builds: Model Shipways Bluenose 1:64 Model Shipways Phantom 1:96 Blog: Suburban Ship Modeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericDave Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share #222 Posted December 23, 2017 So close... The jib sail, main top sail, and balloon jib sail have been installed. I've got the stay sail and fore top sail made - just need to rig them and install them. I tried to convince my wife to let me skip the trip to see the family over Christmas so I could finish up, but she wasn't having it. Assuming all goes well, I think I can have this finished in the next week. Aside from installing the sails, I've got a few misc. things to rig (flag halliards, dory tackles, etc.), and I need to go through and tighten some rigging, trim extra lines, add rope coils, etc. I'll also need to make the display board and mount the ship. I've got some brass pedestals, and I did the holes in the keel for mounting about a year ago. In preparation for mounting, I swung by my wife's jewelry shop yesterday and we engraved the name plaques for the board. I've had a bunch of blank brass plaques for a couple years (I got them to use on my Phantom build, but never got around to engraving them). My wife has an industrial computer controlled engraver for her business, so we finally sat down and engraved the plates for both the Bluenose and my Phantom. We saved all the configs on the engraving machine so we can easily remake these in a few months if I realized something is misspelled The end is in sight...just trying not to rush. But I do think I can realistically be done before the end of the year. Then onto the next one (box is already open and I've already scanned in the plans and started getting organized...) fnkershner, Tigersteve, Elijah and 5 others 8 Quote Dave | genericDave Current Build: Model Shipways Fair American 1:48 Completed Builds: Model Shipways Bluenose 1:64 Model Shipways Phantom 1:96 Blog: Suburban Ship Modeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted December 23, 2017 Share #223 Posted December 23, 2017 Where is the Fisher man Sail? this is the big sail between the topmasts. It is a unique sail that is only found on schooners. The rigging of the Halyard is very different. Also you have mast hoops on the topmasts but no sail attached? Very nice build! popeye the sailor, Elijah, genericDave and 1 other 4 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericDave Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share #224 Posted December 23, 2017 Fnkershner, there's two sails still to be attached in that last photo - the stay sail and the fore top mast sail. I'm not seeing a fisher man sail on the plans...only those two remain. The stay sail is pretty big, and runs between the two masts...might be what you're referring to. The fore top sail also sits between the two masts, and runs from the fore gaff to the fore mast (and uses those remaining mast hoops). Since my last post, I have rigged the stay sail. The halliard for that was just...weird. The plans offered two different versions of that halliard. One was more complex, with multiple blocks and hooks that could be switched from side-to-side. The simpler version just used a line with hooks on either end run through a block. I opted to go with the simpler version. Here's the ship with the stay sail rigged (the only sail still missing is the fore top sail)... Unfortunately the last sail (fore top sail) will have to wait until after Christmas. It is ready to go, but I'm about to be pulled way for family stuff so I don't want to start rigging it if I can't get it all done. I'm sure I'm going to be thinking about finishing this build over the holiday. My wife told me that last night she woke up in the middle of the night and I was standing at the window in our bedroom holding the rod that opens/closes the blinds. She asked what I was doing, and apparently I told her I could use the rod on my ship. I have no memory of that...but it seems I'm now so focused on finishing this build that I'm sleepwalking to find parts for the boat. fnkershner, Heronguy, Elijah and 8 others 11 Quote Dave | genericDave Current Build: Model Shipways Fair American 1:48 Completed Builds: Model Shipways Bluenose 1:64 Model Shipways Phantom 1:96 Blog: Suburban Ship Modeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted December 24, 2017 Share #225 Posted December 24, 2017 You got it! the fisherman is also known as the Staysail you describe. and Yes the rigging is unique. I spent lots of time in other references trying to learn about the rigging for this sail. The only thing I see is that you did not rig the Topsails to the sail rings on the topmast. I would introduce you to our own Dr. Per (elsewhere on this site) But I would suggest that you have now reached the 4th stage of MSW disease and there is no Hope for you. LOL PS it is a life long Malady and You will enjoy. genericDave, Nirvana, Jack12477 and 2 others 5 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jond Posted December 26, 2017 Share #226 Posted December 26, 2017 Great looking sails. These schooners remain amongst the prettiest while under sail. Enjoy the end run Cheers genericDave, KennethGag and Elijah 3 Quote current build Beam Trawler Harvard 1926 Lightships of Boothbay. WAL 605 Overfalls ;Blue Dolphin Maine_ Arctic Schooner ; H G Berry_ Brigs of Boothbay; first pinky in Boothbay diorama; Bluenose 1:24 ; ernestina-morrissey-by-jond-1:48; aphrodite 1853 1st ship in boothbay ; Bowdoin diorama; dancing feather 1853 pilot schooner RC ; Boothbay Harbor One design racing sloop 1:6 radio Charles Notman 4 masted Downeast schooner 1:48 radio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericDave Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share #227 Posted December 30, 2017 Thanks guys! Attaching the sails to the mast hoops is a little tedious (not difficult, and it doesn't take long, just something I don't particularly enjoy), so I decided to wait until I get both the fore topsail and main topsail installed, then I'll attach both of their hoops in one sitting. I was all geared up to have that finished this week (only the fore topsail remains), but life has gotten in the way...maybe next week! Elijah and fnkershner 2 Quote Dave | genericDave Current Build: Model Shipways Fair American 1:48 Completed Builds: Model Shipways Bluenose 1:64 Model Shipways Phantom 1:96 Blog: Suburban Ship Modeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericDave Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share #228 Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) Didn’t quite finish by the end of 2017, but came close. (A new puppy in the house ate up some time!) The final sail was installed and all the rigging is finished (including flag halliards and dory tackles). Still to do: - go over all the rigging and tighten as needed, trim excess line. - rope coils - flags - final pass to fix anything I’m not happy with - mount to display board Edited January 2, 2018 by genericDave Jack12477, gsdpic, Fright and 9 others 12 Quote Dave | genericDave Current Build: Model Shipways Fair American 1:48 Completed Builds: Model Shipways Bluenose 1:64 Model Shipways Phantom 1:96 Blog: Suburban Ship Modeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted January 2, 2018 Share #229 Posted January 2, 2018 Beautiful work! One more note for accuracy. The Canadian Maple Leaf flag is not correct. It did not exist when she sailed. Elijah and genericDave 2 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericDave Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share #230 Posted January 2, 2018 I think I saw that mentioned somewhere...one of the reasons I didn't add the flags when I installed the flag halliards - wanted to take some time to look into the flags. I haven't decided exactly what to do with the flags yet. Nirvana and Elijah 2 Quote Dave | genericDave Current Build: Model Shipways Fair American 1:48 Completed Builds: Model Shipways Bluenose 1:64 Model Shipways Phantom 1:96 Blog: Suburban Ship Modeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted January 2, 2018 Share #231 Posted January 2, 2018 At the time she was launched (1921) There was no standard National flag. For shipping of that time it was customary to fly either the Blue Ensign or Red Ensign. And most ships had the flag of the province. I am at work so I can't share it with you. But I had the link for a site that would create any flag for any size. I found these to be very nice flags. Elijah and genericDave 2 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted January 2, 2018 Share #232 Posted January 2, 2018 Wow! Dave, those sails really make her look great! Did you have any prior experience in sewing before making these sails? Not to rush you, but what ship is up next? genericDave and Nirvana 2 Quote -Elijah Current build(s): Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/ Completed build(s): Model Shipways Phantom http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?showtopic=12376 Member of: The Nautical Research Guild N.R.M.S.S. (Nautical Research and Model Ship Society) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericDave Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share #233 Posted January 3, 2018 Frnkershner - thanks for the info! That helps to point me in the right direction. I'm going to pour through some old photos and such over the next week as I'm finishing up the details and try to nail down exactly what flags I want to fly. Right now I'm planning to try using some printable transfer paper and sail cloth to make the flags (saw this method described in detail in another thread somewhere on here). We'll see how that works Elijah - Thanks! I'm pretty happy with how the sails turned out. They're not perfect - up close you can spot all kinds of issues, but from 2-3 feet away they look fine. This was my first time sewing. I had to go buy a sewing machine and watch a bunch of videos on how use it. I also had to make several of the sails more than once, so I went through about twice as much sail cloth as the kit provided. Once I got the hang of it, making sails is actually pretty easy, and pretty enjoyable. I'd definitely recommend trying sails on any build where it would be appropriate. Next build will be the 18th Century Longboat. Before I start another big model, I wanted to do something a little more contained. I also think the nature of that kit will help me improve my general woodworking skills (making clean cuts, sanding, etc.). Nirvana and Elijah 2 Quote Dave | genericDave Current Build: Model Shipways Fair American 1:48 Completed Builds: Model Shipways Bluenose 1:64 Model Shipways Phantom 1:96 Blog: Suburban Ship Modeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericDave Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share #234 Posted January 6, 2018 I ended up going with the “red ensign” flag. I made it using a guide I found here on the forum. I prepped the art in Photoshop, then printed it on iron-on transfer paper. Then I applied it to some white fabric and cut it to size. I’m about halfway done with the mounting board. Hopefully I can get the ship mounted in the next day or two, then I’m done! Nirvana and Elijah 2 Quote Dave | genericDave Current Build: Model Shipways Fair American 1:48 Completed Builds: Model Shipways Bluenose 1:64 Model Shipways Phantom 1:96 Blog: Suburban Ship Modeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted January 7, 2018 Share #235 Posted January 7, 2018 Nice Choice. I chose that one as well. I also added the flag of Nova Scotia to the main mast. Nirvana and Elijah 2 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericDave Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share #236 Posted January 7, 2018 Finished! After 645 days, I've got the Bluenose mounted and moved to its final home on the bookshelf. After almost two years of *always* having something that needed to be done on the ship, it is a weird feeling to be finished. Fortunately that feeling won't last as I started prepping the next build this morning. Duanelaker, GrandpaPhil, Fright and 9 others 12 Quote Dave | genericDave Current Build: Model Shipways Fair American 1:48 Completed Builds: Model Shipways Bluenose 1:64 Model Shipways Phantom 1:96 Blog: Suburban Ship Modeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted January 7, 2018 Share #237 Posted January 7, 2018 Nice clean Build! Wonderful job! She a beautiful lady. Mine sits in the entryway to our house is a case. Yours is even better. Nirvana, genericDave and Elijah 3 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted January 7, 2018 Share #238 Posted January 7, 2018 Congrats! Very nice. Steve genericDave, Nirvana and Elijah 3 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted January 8, 2018 Share #239 Posted January 8, 2018 Nicely done. Congratulations on a fine build Dave. Nirvana, Elijah and genericDave 3 Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericDave Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share #240 Posted January 9, 2018 Thanks everyone! Glad to have the second build in the books! The next build is underway...build log coming soon! Nirvana, Elijah and Fright 3 Quote Dave | genericDave Current Build: Model Shipways Fair American 1:48 Completed Builds: Model Shipways Bluenose 1:64 Model Shipways Phantom 1:96 Blog: Suburban Ship Modeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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