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Thanks, so you did not use any part of the bulkhead keel former that you would have normally used for a POB build. The picture is great but it does not show the keel part between the POB and POF section of your build.

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Thanks, so you did not use any part of the bulkhead keel former that you would have normally used for a POB build. The first and last pictures are great but they do not show the keel part between the POB and POF section of your build. Yes on photo #2 shows the keel for the first bulkhead going aft and I assume it is the same going foward. Perfect a complete scratch build!

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Hi Tom,

 

I don't know exactly how you created the keel (for the frames) and the fore and aft 'spine' onto which you attached the bulkheads but I'm guessing you may have made something like what I've tried to draw below?  (I assume that from stem to stern the "thing" had to be a single piece, or a manufactured single piece?)

Maybe that's what Guy is trying to see?

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Hi Jim,

Yes that is what it looked like.  The keel was a 1/4" square piece of walnut. The ends where the bulkheads were being used were built up by gluing 1/4" square pieces on top of each other until I got the height I needed to secure a bulkhead.  After sleeping on it, I realized what was being asked.  I just don't have any pictures.  Thanks for the sketch.

 

Guy, I hope this helps.  This site always has somebody that knows the answer... even if we are not always sure of the question. :)

 

Happy modeling,

Tom

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Hello MSW

What started out as only intending to do the rat lines behind the futtock shrouds while they were easy to get to, ended up being a complete set on the main mast.  I guess that’s good since sooner or later they need to get done. I guess I will do the same on the port side now. Then I can put in the lower deadeyes for the top mast shrouds which was the original plan. I guess plans are like rules... subject to change without notice. 😜😁


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And before anyone asks, I don’t know how many clove hitches I will need. Quick math tells me about 1300 just for the lower shrouds. After all those it doesn’t really matter if it is 1,000 or 10,000. Your brain eventually goes to mush after a few hundred. Good thing there are other things to work on 😁!

Tom

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14 hours ago, toms10 said:

 

And before anyone asks, I don’t know how many clove hitches I will need. Quick math tells me about 1300 just for the lower shrouds. After all those it doesn’t really matter if it is 1,000 or 10,000. Your brain eventually goes to mush after a few hundred. Good thing there are other things to work on 😁!

Tom

Tom,  it's great to see someone so happy to be doing ratlines!  .  .  .  and you're not going to count them ???  (Welcome to the mushy brain club!)

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13 hours ago, toms10 said:

Hi Jim,

Okay, who am I kidding.  I am an engineer... I have to count them.  I am just wired that way. :)

Tom

 

Ah.. that's probably good then.  I was a tech writer for several decades and always just went to the engineer to ask "how many?"

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  • 4 weeks later...

Major milestone tonight. Finished the rat lines on all the lower shrouds. I said I would count them but I couldn’t help myself... 1,392 clove hitches. 
I used the “draw the actual shroud position on paper” technique to keep the lines properly spaced and the shrouds straight. 
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Here is the finished product.  Maybe not  a “10” but looks pretty good to me.  I used  50 wt thread to keep the scale and keep the knots from being too bulky. 
 

Not sure what I will work on next. Definitely something without clove hitches. The yards seem to be calling. Those are pretty much the last wooden pieces that need to be made. 
 

Tom

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Looking great Tom! . . . and I know it's a great feeling to get to that stage.

(and I won't spoil it by mentioning the topmast ratlines.  I did say I wouldn't mention that, didn't I?)

 

Now, if I can help you with some arithmetic here:

 

Number of ratlines versus number of yards - - -  Ratlines = 1,392;   Yards = 21

 

That's assuming you're stopping at topgallants and not doing Royals, and making yards is much more fun AND much easier on the brain!

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Hi Jim

Good to hear from you. Hope all is well. Top mast rat lines will be a breeze compared to this past marathon. 😜
 

Thinking more on it, I think I will continue on with the standing rigging.  Futtock shrouds next to get the top mast dead eyes secured. Then I can put in the top mast shrouds and finally the last sets of rat lines. 
 

Of course, all plans subject to change without notice. 😁

 

Be safe

Tom

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Little more progress. Finished the fore top mast shrouds and ratlines. 
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I have a question about the shrouds on the top gallant masts. I noticed there are 3 shroud lines but no ratlines. If one were to lower the royal yard how do you get to it if need be? I would have thought ratlines would solve the problem but there are none shown on the plans.  Understand I don’t want to tie more ratlines but it does not make sense to me. 🤔
 

Tom

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Hi all

reached another milestone today. After 2,852 clove hitches,  all the main, top and futtock shroud ratlines are complete. 
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Now I will start to work on the forestays and backstays for the top masts. Then on to the top gallant masts and rigging and finally the royal masts. Working my way through the standing rigging. At least that is the plan for now. Also still have a decent amount of work to do on the bow sprit. 
 

Really starting to enjoy the results with some of the rigging in place. Brings the model to life a bit. 👍😁

 

Tom

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On 8/31/2020 at 2:43 AM, toms10 said:

Hi all

reached another milestone today. After 2,852 clove hitches,  all the main, top and futtock shroud ratlines are complete. 
 

Really starting to enjoy the results with some of the rigging in place. Brings the model to life a bit. 👍😁

 

Tom

HMmmm . . . . . 2,852 clove hitches?  ~  are you absolutely certain you counted them correctly?  😄😄😄

 

It's looking great Tom.  It's on the home straight now, and as you say, the model has really come to life now.

 

 

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16 hours ago, Bluto 1790 said:

HMmmm . . . . . 2,852 clove hitches?  ~  are you absolutely certain you counted them correctly?  😄😄😄

 

 

 

Hey Jim

you made me double check (I have some OCD issues 😜) just for fun and low and behold I did do a math error when multiplying. It is actually 2,918!  Ridiculous!😃

 

Really like your cross section model!

 

Tom

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Hello all,

I finished some of the standing rigging on the back half of the ship.  Now I need to find out more about the bow sprit rigging and what attaches to the fore masts along with the connections between the main and fore masts.  I spent the better part of  the last month learning the rigging.  One step at a time.  I can't believe how many blocks I will need to fully rig this ship with staysails.  I am sure Chuck will be getting another order soon.

 

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Tom

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38 minutes ago, toms10 said:

Now I need to find out more about the bow sprit rigging and what attaches to the fore masts along with the connections between the main and fore masts. 

Hi Tom,

Looking great!   I can see you're closing in on that 'front end'.

When you look at the bowsprit it DOES look a little bewildering (I say that as if the rest of the rigging isn't bewildering!) but just as you say ~~ taking one line at a time and it all comes together eventually.

I remember when I first got Petersson's rigging book, I thumbed through it and thought I'd never be able to get that done, but one step at a time . . . . .

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