Baby Bootlegger by Gerhardvienna - 1/10 - Radio

[Gerhardvienna]

Gerhard,

 

I think your rudder will work.  Possibly use horns on the rudder post and wire/line to the servo?  As an aside, I'm not sure why you redesigned it.

 

Hi Mark

 

When you take a look a the "Babyface Nelson", you`ll see the rudder, just scroll down the site

http://www.westsystem.com/ss/babyface-nelson/

As this boat is a copy from the Bootlegger, I want to have the rudder as close as ever possible to the original thing. So I have to redraw it to this, even if it makes work a bit harder. It`s not done with only redesing the keel plate, but also the rear frame (frame "I" in the plans)must be redisigned.

 

 

Mark,

Gerhard probably want to make it 'his baby'!!

 

Hello Carl

 

NO! I want it to be the "real" Baby, just a little smaller than it won the races

 

All the best, thank you for your interest!

Gerhard

 

[NenadM]

Nice and fine drawings, thinking and research. Even in 3D!

 

Computers are our best friends in this hobby, aren't they?

 

Just imagine long road without internet ...

 

Without MSW

Edited June 22, 2016 by Nenad

[cog]

Gerhard, sorry to take your topic for a sec

 

 

 

 

Just imagine long road without internet ...

Without MSW

 

You/I don't want to imagine model building without the internet. How do you get all the information? By mail!?!? I'm still waiting for a parcel from Florida by USPS, it's been on the move since beginning of May (2016). It will be a long build, besides how can we follow it, and if we could, the correspondence will be rather pricey ... pictures , copies, envelopes, stamps, drawings.

I even wonder if I couldn't have given Gerhard the links for the rudder what he would have done. Besides I couldn't possibly have known of his build... And as for MSW, maybe locally something ... but not this wonderful divers international site ...

 

Thanks Gerhard for being here and sharing it with us, like all the others at MSW

[Gerhardvienna]

Nice and fine drawings, thinking and research. Even in 3D!

 

Computers are our best friends in this hobby, aren't they?

 

Just imagine long road without internet ...

 

Without MSW

 

 

Hi Nenad

 

I, as so many, or even the most of us, started modelbuilding so long ago, there was no internet or so many other open recources. It did work. But in this "Modern Times"  we have it, and this opens so many ways to connect with others, and gives way for new methods of constructing and building.

The 3D-Programme I use is IMSI 3D-CAD, easy to use programme, just because I am too lazy to learn other systems

 

Gerhard, sorry to take your topic for a sec

 

 

 

You/I don't want to imagine model building without the internet. How do you get all the information? By mail!?!? I'm still waiting for a parcel from Florida by USPS, it's been on the move since beginning of May (2016). It will be a long build, besides how can we follow it, and if we could, the correspondence will be rather pricey ... pictures , copies, envelopes, stamps, drawings.

I even wonder if I couldn't have given Gerhard the links for the rudder what he would have done. Besides I couldn't possibly have known of his build... And as for MSW, maybe locally something ... but not this wonderful divers international site ...

 

Thanks Gerhard for being here and sharing it with us, like all the others at MSW

 

Hi Carl

 

Thank you! And all the others who share their builds with us, give knowledge to the inexperienced, and help as much as ever possible. This is in my mind why we are here and in other forums. It would take so much more time to get all the infos about the ships (or other models) we try to build without that help, and without the recources of the world wide web.

I Like to be here, and I came to stay.............

 

Regards, and thank you all!

Gerhard

[mtaylor]

Thanks for the explanation about the rudder Gerhard.  I mis-read your posts on the why you were redoing it.

[Gerhardvienna]

Hi Mark

 

Dont worry, there are so many threads, noone can read everything as fast as they are written

I`m just doing what you do with the Licorne. But yours is at a far higher level....................

 

Today I found some time to cut the keel plate, the inner contour shows the changes to the form from the plan sheets. I`m thinking about, how to make the cutouts for the prop shaft, I need that exactly where it is located at the plans, when I drill that after planking I will fail too much.There must be a way to get this part set correct before planking! We`ll see...........

 

The stern part of the keel before cutting

 

Ready cut

 

The keel cut and grinded to final shape

 

Thank you again for switching in, and all your kind likes!

Regards

Gerhard

 

[thomaslambo]

Hi Gerhard,

 

What a great project  

 

I'm a long time RC/FE boat guy...so I really enjoy these type of builds.

 

Also, I think your idea to start with electric power is a good one.  Considering the level of detail on this build...a fuel system might not be the most user friendly ship mate    

 

Good luck 

[Gerhardvienna]

Hi Gerhard,

 

What a great project

 

I'm a long time RC/FE boat guy...so I really enjoy these type of builds.

 

Also, I think your idea to start with electric power is a good one.  Considering the level of detail on this build...a fuel system might not be the most user friendly ship mate    

 

Good luck 

 

 

Hi Boyd

 

Glad to see you on board, thanks for coming in!

Not only the "user friendly" handling but that there is almost no place to drive the boat is a reason for the electric drive. And the motor is easy to get, while a V8 petrol engine has much more of weight, and would take me a lot of time to build. I do have the Whittle V8 plans, but would need a good milling machine before I could build this beautiful and powerful engine. So I will stay with electric for the Baby, and stay focussed on the details of her.

 

Regards

Gerhard

[youngtiger1]

Boy, that's an interesting boat. I didn't realize they had racing boats like this...classy, yet fast. I'll sure to follow along your progress of this beautiful project.

 

Mike

[cog]

Gerhard,

 

You could cut the keel for the propshaft and make a mold to hold the keel temporarily together, which you remove when enough planks are fixed and you wouldn't be afraid the tail would be "waggling" ...

[popeye the sailor]

I agree...that rudder will never fail you!  

[Gerhardvienna]

Boy, that's an interesting boat. I didn't realize they had racing boats like this...classy, yet fast. I'll sure to follow along your progress of this beautiful project.

 

Mike

 

Hi Mike

Welcome, take your seat..........

They made so many classy boats then, seems to be the 1950ies, before and up was a good time for boatbuilders. By searching for more stuff about the Baby I found so many others, too much to list them!

 

 

Gerhard,

 

You could cut the keel for the propshaft and make a mold to hold the keel temporarily together, which you remove when enough planks are fixed and you wouldn't be afraid the tail would be "waggling" ...

 

Hi Carl

I think about something like reinforce plates on both sides of the keel, so the steve pipe will have more hold and stays in correct position while I`m setting and fixing it in. I must first take a look, what diameter of pipe I will use for that, and then make the plates. I will have to act similar at the rudder axle liner, this will be turned at the lathe.

 

Regards

Gerhard

 

Edited June 24, 2016 by Gerhardvienna

[Gerhardvienna]

They made so many classy boats then, seems to be the 1950ies, before and up was a good time for boatbuilders. By searching for more stuff about the Baby I found so many others, too much to list them!

Regards

Gerhard

 

 

 

Sorry for quoting myself, but here is an example of what I meant, The "Alzeda"  an extremley amazing boat

http://www.portcarlingboats.com/tag/alzeda/

BTW: Whoever knows about plans from her please give some information to me.............

 

Regards

Gerhard

[Gerhardvienna]

After a little break, I continued with the keel plate. The groove for the steve tube was cut with a small cutting disc, and then the parts stabilized with 4 x 5mm oak wood strips. Everything fits well to the plans, so I can go on with the cuting for the rudder axle socket.

 

Cut with small disc to approx half width

 

Stabilized with 4 x 5 mm oak wood

 

Full cut and stabilized

 

Tested to the plans, fits well.

 

Thank you all for your interest, and for the many likes too !

 

Regards

Gerhard

 

 

 

 

[Gerhardvienna]

The last days were filled up with "family affairs", so I had not too much time for the baby......

The cutout for the rudder axle socket is made, this was not so complicated as the long slash for the prop shaft.

 

slashed to half thickness and reinforce plate glued on

 

then turned around, cut the part full away, glue the second reinforce plate to the keel, and the cutout for the socket is there..

 

Next things to do will be sawing the frames, and build the frame and keel section.

 

Thank you all for watching, and your many likes, comments a.s.o.

 

Regards

Gerhard

Edited June 28, 2016 by Gerhardvienna

[cog]

Looking good. You are well prepared for the next steps, Gerhard

[Gerhardvienna]

Hi Carl

 

I hope to be prepared for next things to do. Today I had some time to cut the frames from 4 mm plywood (boxwood), this is really hard to cut, tomorrow the frames will be cut to shape with the jewellers saw. Dont know how long this will take, but it`s not a race to the finished boat yet .

 

 

Thank you all again for looking in

Regards

Gerhard

[cog]

It's a hobby Gerhard, so, no rush. You'll enjoy every step of it that way. So will your audience mate

[Gerhardvienna]

Back from vacations, thank you all for your kind likes & comments!

 

This week since I`m back at work for the Baby, I completed the framework and made the hull planking at bottom and sides. Now that I`ve had some "timeout" from everything working on the models is a lot easier to do. Things went fast, so I can start next week with the deck planking.

 

Frames and Keel on the building board

 

The pressure plate from the plans is a bit too small, I had to saw a new one, that fits to the frames

 

Different planking steps

 

 

 

Regards

Gerhard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[gjdale]

Welcome back Gerhard. Nice to see your Baby taking shape.

[Gerhardvienna]

Hi Grant

 

Thank you, work goes on again, the baby wants to get ready.............

 

Hi all again

 

Today I started with the preworks for the deck planking. First to do was to set the drilling for the steve tube, I could cut that through the basa wood with a simple piece of 7 mm brass tube. Then I started to remove the remains from the frames stands, when all are sawed off i can start with the last  balsa planks.

 

The hole for the steve tube is done, tube will be epoxyd in when the mahogany planks are done.

 

Removing of the frames stands

 

Regards, and thank you all again for your so many likes!

Gerhard

 

 

[popeye the sailor]

came back and hit the ground running!   she planked up very quickly.........very nice job!     glad to see you back! 

[Gerhardvienna]

Hi Dennis

 

Took a week to get to that point, this days now are a bit too hot for me for working. Around 30deg. C. is too much for making boats, better to take a break in the spa ..................

Just doing little things in the evenings, preparing for the next steps, cutting 3 x 3 mm planks from balsa wood. Not much to report at the time, but more to come soon!

 

Regards

gerhard

[Gerhardvienna]

Hi Folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Back again after Motorbike charsh and following unexpected kenn surgery and long  "not Amy Winehouse style" rehab I`m ready to go on again. Sorry for let you all waiting so long, new things will come soon. While my rehab I`ve searched for a new driving concept for the Bootlegger and other motor driven boats, maybe I`m coming up with a novelty in that case....

More about that soon!

 

Regards

Gerhard

[captainbob]

Glad you're back and hope you mend well and soon.  Can't wait to see the new drive system.

 

Bob

[Gerhardvienna]

Hi Bob

 

I`m really well now after all that pain, but thats over. The new system will be an electric one, but different to everything I`ve seen in a boat. A few more research is still to make, then I will be able to show up with what I mean. It will take some more time to realize it, but I`m sure this can work.

 

Regards

Gerhard

[Omega1234]

Hi Gerhad

 

Nice to hear that you're back!  I guess you've been banned permanently from riding bikes ever again????

 

All the best.

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

[Gerhardvienna]

Hi Gerhad

 

Nice to hear that you're back!  I guess you've been banned permanently from riding bikes ever again????

 

All the best.

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

Hi Patrick

 

Who knows.....................

To be serious, I would like to ride again, but will take some time off from that. Over the wintertime it`s much too cold, maybe next year again. But I must watch out for a not too expensuve bike, maybe a (used) sportster could be the next one.

 

Back to the Baby and it`s new concept of driving. I want to drive the boat with a small V8 solenoid engine, this motors have the best sound of electric engines, but I must figure out,what torque I can get out of such an engine. So there will be a lot of research to make, beneath my other projects!

 

Regards and thank you all for welcoming me back again!

Gerhard

[NenadM]

I hope you are well, my friend

 

There are a few of us at age 50+ in "non grown boys" group who ride motobike direct to surgery :D

 

I have learned my lesson four years ago, cutting my leg to bone... Do you?

Edited November 27, 2016 by Nenad

[mtaylor]

Gerhard,

 

It's wonderful that you're back.  I had to go Google the V8 solenoid engine.  One impressive bit of hardware.  I take it that these are all basically scratch-built?  I noticed that they're producing some of the parts using a 3D printer.