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De Zeven Provinciën 1665 by YankeeD - Scale 1:50 - according to drawings by Mr. O. Blom - First wooden scratch ship build


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Great progress so far, you‘re doing a fantastic job. It is a pity that the building of the replica in the netherlands stopped years ago due to financial issues.

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Due to corona there is quite some spare time, so I progressed nicely.

 

The deck beams for the halfdeck (english Quarterdeck I believe?) were all finished so I could start working on the closing of the maindeck. That meant making a lot of gratings...  It took me the last 2.5 weeks to get it done. But more on that later

But I started first on the schaarstokken, thickers strakes then the normal deck planks.

 

That meant collecting a lot of saw dust but also some fine sanding to have them fit correctly over the deckbeams.

 

Sawing the strakes, thickness 2x the deck planking wich will be 1.8mm thick and just about 8mm wide. And they are sawed so that the top is just as wide as a deckplank and that the top is flush with the planking.

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Milling the inserts for the beams. Not straight in first instance, the pieces moved. so I had to improve holding the pieces of wood against the miter. I used sanding paper

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The lot finished from fore to aft.

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After that I started on the gratings. Man that took me long to get it right. I followed a russian builders example but soon found out that it was noy my way of doing.

It was based on sawing to 2 pieces and mount them counter wise and then removing top and bottom half. It was all too fragile for me.

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When removing the surplus material the parts were always easily damaged

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I went to making a saw sled mould that could saw both directions accurately and then filling with seperate pins.

Be ware this is all 2mm in all directions, wide long and deep.

This still took some inventing to do as my sawblades (Byrnes saw) were all US in inches. So at last after finding a kerf 2mm sawblade it still had to be mounted to the arbor.

But an adpater ring was easily found (Thanks mr Bosch!)

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Here prepared for striking it with heavily diluted PA glue with water. After drying it is better to work on.

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I then found my spacing of deckbeams irregular out of line. So I had to go back to redoing the strakes with correct, even spacing.

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But overall satisfied with the result.

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So I will continue to finish this deck and then probably the inner hull planking up to the half deck

 

C U later, Hans.

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Fantastic work!!

I admire your skills and your attention to details, even to those details that are probably not visible anymore later..

Completed:

Catalina from Mamoli (1/32)

European small river ship (scratch build) (1/50)

 

Currently building: Wasa from Corel (1/75)

Future: Titanic (Mantua), Batavia (Kolderstok), Friesland (Mamoli), Bismarck (Hachette), Prins Willem (Corel)

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Hans, 

She is coming along beautifully and, your attention to all the details is well done. 

Marcus 

Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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Hans, 

In post 152, last picture, the clamps. Self made? Here you can purchase them in 6" (15cm) and up. I have not found anything that small. 

Marcus 

Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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Very beautiful work YankeeD !! 

I admire your work with gratings, now I also create them, I can appreciate it. Your grooving system on one side is great, I will use it next time as well.

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Marcus, try these screw clamps. I have a dozen and they are absolutely essential in my workshop. They also come in a 2.5" size which I wasn't familiar with.

https://widgetsupply.com/product/bdk08-tz7920.html

Greg

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13 hours ago, flying_dutchman2 said:

Hans, 

In post 152, last picture, the clamps. Self made? Here you can purchase them in 6" (15cm) and up. I have not found anything that small. 

Marcus 

No Marcus not selfmade.

 

Bessey.

Amongst here you can find them. https://www.superhandgereedschap.nl/product/parallelspanner-mt-1-36mm-bessey/?gclid=Cj0KCQjw-r71BRDuARIsAB7i_QNHe24SCgjOSfzT7rpOcK4HFeeTyKBU-YfHtKlM9ucSh0GK8fC2z8kaAubrEALw_wcB

 

They will for sure be cheaper in US.

 

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Thank you both, I will definitely look up both of them. I have heard from some people that they make those themselves. 

Thanks against, 

Marcus 

Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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  • 4 weeks later...

As the new moth approaches time for another update.

The first part of the deck, all between the strakes, had been finished, still dry fit. And I will keep it dry fit for some time as to keep acces to the orlop.

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I did some parts on the main deck, like the kolderstok.

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Also the Rusts for the putting irons were made

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And next was the bowmast. I still needed to make the bottom fitting square and making a holder for it.

During this I found the mast not properly alinged and thatw as adjusted.

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Final and correct aligment now.

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Creating some other parts on the deck.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Nearly another month, time for an update.

 

As I was working on the bowsprit I decided to finish all mast and all parts of the masts.

 

 

 

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Highest point reached!! Time for a beer

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Experimenting with rope, as it is nearing time to fix some rope. As I cannot reach that anymore after closing the deck.

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1mm drill bit

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Beautifully executed. You do excellent work.

I love the lines of this ship. Have to make this one myself one of these days. 

Marcus 

Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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  • 2 months later...

Wauw, just realise its been 2 months since an update. Now I also have been busy building other projects and some holidays. But some progress was made, so here he goes.

I finished the deck planking and did some roping as later on I would not reach the knights head anymore.

 

 

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During the clamping of the inner planking a clamp spri=ung off. I was uncarefull in placing it so I had to repair the parts carefully. I used sanded dust and diluted glue as I did not want to replace the parts. I was quite succefull i think.

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Then I also decided to add the kitchen chimney. A wooden block was made to shape. Then 0.4 copper was used to build it and a edge of 1mm copper to complete the image.

 

 

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  • 1 month later...

Again a 2 months period has passed, you all might be thinking I stopped building. Now indeed I stopped building temporarily as another project came by but that has been finished so I continued the build.

 

 

I finished the gunports on the Verdek and also the gunport lids.

The inner planking up to the halfdek was also done.

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After that I started working on the bow section before going farther up. I decided the concentrate my build a little more (I have been building crosswise) I will build basically from down to up.

 

 

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Status per today.

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  • 1 month later...

So, Santa is on its way and the days are getting darker so lots of time for fun. (Althoug its getting colder to work in the shed)

 

After finishing the galjoen which took quite some puzzzling I started working on some ornaments, I am now the proud owner of a CNC machine for that.

I tried handcarving (followed even some lessons from a friend) but that's simply not my  'thing'.

 

And I started painting her.

 

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As the deck will be closed soon I have to foresee some ropes as I cant reach the knight afterwards.

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Captains quarters doors with selfmade ornaments by CNC

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Very impressive. That CNC work has turned out beautifully and I look forward to seeing more.

Well done!

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STAY SAFE

 

A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin

current builds:

HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style

Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild 

French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold

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  • 4 weeks later...

Let me start by wishing everybody a happy but for foremost healthy 2021!!

 

 

I have been very busy with getting a grip on the CNC world. Getting the machine to run and do something is not the isssue. the issue is getting into the machine what you want to get out of it :).

And I am succeeding. I chose this path because I know handworking and sculpting is not my thing. I tried several times but my artistik qualities are too low.

So I concluded I am a 'technical' guy and hence approached the problem from a technical point of view. Thus the CNC. I started in Artcam/Carveco but ended up with Vectric. It was a steep learning curve but I am happy I did it. It can bring my build to a new level.

 

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This is outstanding work! I remember seeing the beginnings of this ship around 2008 at the Batavia wharf, I was sad to hear that she will not be completed. 
Where did the plans come from?

JJ

Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now)

 

                         HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship

 

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This is all looking very spectacular, indeed. The carved works are very good!

 

I just like how the whole model is coming together; all the framing is fair, and the lapstrakes neatly laid, and the paintwork is clean, and the decks and gratings are beautifully laid.

 

Congrats on your efforts, so far!

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Hi Hans,

 

Really very, very beautiful build of our nation's pride!
I can only dream of reaching your level of scratch building and building our country's flagship!
Maybe you are willing to give me a few masterclasses in the future!?
Did you build it from the drawings in and with this book in this picture?
I have this book with the drawings, which must be enlarged ofcourse to the scale one would like, but I would not know where to start.

Yes, ofcourse with the keel, knees and frames, but where to draw and saw the inside of the contours of the frames? The outer outlines are clear on the drawings, but where are the boundaries of the insides? Meaning amongst others e.g. how thick will the 'verschansing' be?
 

Thanks, Frank.
 

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HMS Winchelsea 1:48

Prior builds on MSW:

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Hi Frank,

 

Thanks for you nice comments. I have owned the Dik book but sold it. I am building from Otte Blom's plans. http://www.otteblom.nl/

and for when those plans are not clear enough or missing information I use what is available from Dik's book and the Batvaia warf and other sources like  the Kolderstok model of the 7P.

 

It was/is my first boat ever, I also started out of the blue without any shipbuilding knowledge. Learn as you go.

 

All you basically need are the line drawings, lijnendiagram, of the boat. Each and every frame and curve can be taken out of the drawings.

Check for "lofitng a boat". :)

 

But the project you chose is also very interesting and will be challenging.

 

I look forward to following you.

 

Rgds Hans

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  • 3 weeks later...

As covid pushes on we just keep building. I decided some time ago that it was time to get some order and structure in the way I was building. Before I just did as I went along in what ever I found fun doing. But then I decided structure was needed and I would build from bottom to top.

So as the front is nearly finished up to and including the bakdek I must reach the same level at the rear. So time to speed up things there.

here some pictures with the latest status quo.

 

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The first try was a round one but I liked the second better

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