molasses Posted November 6, 2014 Author #61 Posted November 6, 2014 Finished Ogallala and can now get back to work on Esmeralda. I hadn't intended to take this much time away from Esmeralda but Ogallala turned into a much more comprehensive project than I had originally planned. I did find some more, useful, photos of E for some details on deck and aloft and kept her in mind during my side journey. I learned a few things from O that I will apply to E and I have a bit of re-work to do and some details to add before I pick up where I left off. I'll post my progress soon. I came across an interesting variation on a ship in a bottle with Esmeralda as the subject but the method is a bit too ephemeral for my taste. Dave cog, tadheus, Chasseur and 5 others 8 Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
molasses Posted January 21, 2015 Author #62 Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) Welcome to resumption of work on Esmeralda. I haven't worked on it in over a year so picking up where I left off was a bit difficult. I decided I have some re-work to do to incorporate some techniques I learned or improved upon since the last work done. I also have a lazy streak. There are a large number of round port lights on most of the deck hatches that I didn't originally intend to reproduce but decided I can't leave off. I realized I could do them as decals on the eight hatches and prepared them on the computer and printed them on decal stock along with the yellow metal stern relief detail and name. Hatch cover details and stern relief decals. Before applying the decals to the tops of the white deck hatches. After applying the decals. The difference is more noticeable when you click the image. There are 146 port lights in the hatch covers. To do the stern detail I had to photo-shop the relief from a photo of it and adjust that image for the curvature of the stern to print it on a flat surface and for the distortion from the angle the photo was taken. I also had to do some color correction to make it look bright and shiny (the photo was taken on a dark, overcast day so the relief looked very dull). then reduce it for the model. Esmeralda's stern relief. I have to wait about 24 hours before coating all the decals with a couple coats of artist's matte varnish. The photo from which I extracted the stern relief. I realized while I was making the decals that this was the way I should have done the port lights on the hull. Live and learn. If I ever decide to do Esmeralda's sister ship Juan Sebastian de Elcano (a topsail schooner while E is a barquentine), any of the Gorch Fock sisters and clones (nine of them) or any ship with lots of port lights, I'll know what to do. Dave Edited January 21, 2015 by Dave Fellingham vaddoc, Omega1234, cog and 7 others 10 Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
mtaylor Posted January 21, 2015 #63 Posted January 21, 2015 Nice to see you resuming work on this one, Dave. I would think you're right about the decals. Beats trying to paint them and get them all the same size and in the right place. Looks great!!! Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
michael mott Posted January 21, 2015 #64 Posted January 21, 2015 Great to see you back on the ship Dave Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
cog Posted January 21, 2015 #65 Posted January 21, 2015 Good solution. I could not see you painting awaytiny specks/dots on the hatches, at least not 146. Sometimes you need some time off to refresh your perspective. Looking forward to more updates Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Mirabell61 Posted January 21, 2015 #66 Posted January 21, 2015 fantastic work Dave, just had a look at your log, Looks great, never seen so much lovely Details on a bottle ship Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
Omega1234 Posted January 21, 2015 #67 Posted January 21, 2015 Hi Dave Decals - A very nice and ingenious solution to the fine detail work. They look great. Cheers Patrick Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora
captainbob Posted January 21, 2015 #68 Posted January 21, 2015 I've been missing the progress on the Esmeralda. Glad its back. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray
molasses Posted January 21, 2015 Author #69 Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) Sometimes you need some time off to refresh your perspective. That's one way to rationalize my laziness. I'm very pleased to be back to work on Esmeralda and sharing my progress with my friends here. Thanks to all for the "welcome back". Dave Edited January 21, 2015 by Dave Fellingham Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
Chasseur Posted January 25, 2015 #70 Posted January 25, 2015 Nice to see some progress on the White Lady. I havn't had a chance to do anything on my build. "Too busy" with work, some renovations at home, and at Mom's house. Jeff IgorSky 1 Quote A mighty fortress is our God a bulwark never failing!
Guillermo Gallardo Posted March 26, 2015 #71 Posted March 26, 2015 Dear Dave Congratulations about your work. Let me ask you about blueprints used to build Esmeralda ship model. IgorSky 1 Quote
molasses Posted March 26, 2015 Author #72 Posted March 26, 2015 I'm working almost exclusively from photos. I was unable to find any plans for Esmeralda or her sister ship Juan Sebastian Elcano. I did find a low-res drawing of the weather deck and the deck below which gave me my deck outline and helped with my best guess at the waterline shape. I also had the dimensions (OA length, WL length, beam, mast heights, etc.) which I used to extrapolate other dimensions from the scores of photos I collected from the web. Deck plan used. The lower deck shows the hull shape at the lower deck which I used to make my best guess at the waterline. The three images below are lower-res versions (for posting here) of high-res images (up to 6 MB) I found and used for my deck detailing. I also used numerous on-deck photos and video tours of the weather deck for specific details and as checks against my extrapolated dimensions. In most cases I have two or more photos of a specific detail from different angles. Spar dimensions were easy to derive; there are numerous photos of Esmeralda under sail in which the spars are parallel or near parallel to the plane of the camera lens. It's easy to compare that length to the WL length or the total mast height in several photos to come up with a number at E's scale (1/640). That's my long answer. My short answer would have to be, "I'm eye-balling it." Dave IgorSky, JesseLee, JerseyCity Frankie and 1 other 4 Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
Chasseur Posted March 27, 2015 #73 Posted March 27, 2015 Dave, you are a very talented guy. I have no doubts you'll do justice to the build. A very cool shot of the sailors furling sails. She must have a crew of over a hundred men. Jeff Quote A mighty fortress is our God a bulwark never failing!
molasses Posted March 27, 2015 Author #74 Posted March 27, 2015 A very cool shot of the sailors furling sails. She must have a crew of over a hundred men.Jeff If you liked that shot you'll love this one: 300 crew + 90 Chilean Navy midshipmen cog and IgorSky 2 Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
IgorSky Posted March 27, 2015 #75 Posted March 27, 2015 I'm working almost exclusively from photos. I was unable to find any plans for Esmeralda or her sister ship Juan Sebastian Elcano. Hi Dave, I have two sets of drawings of Juan Sebastian Elcano (7,5 Mb and 23 Mb). I will try to find the links to a resource where it is possible to download them or I can send them to your e-mail address if it is necessary for you. Best Regards! Igor. Quote My models in PROGRESS: Holland yacht-boeier by IgorSky - Scale 1/150 - BOTTLE , My COMPLETED models: Holland yacht-boeier by IgorSky - Scale 1/150 - BOTTLE , Three-mast schooner ATLANTIC - BOTTLE - 1/600 Scale, Captain Jack Sparrow arrives in Port Royal - BOTTLE - Scale 1/72, Boat with pirates - 1/72 scale - BOTTLE, Pilot cutter Jolie Brise - BOTTLE - Scale 1/240, Yacht J-class - BOTTLE - Scale 1/300 , Mini SIB - Yacht Jolie Brise and Lighthouse Fastnet Rock – BOTTLE – Scale 1/3000 , Schooner AMERICA - BOTTLE - scale ̴ 1/800 , Mini SIB - J-class Yacht - BOTTLE - scale 1/1000 , The Old Man and The Sea - BOTTLE - Scale 1/72 , Steam schooner LENA - BOTTLE - scale 1/290 , Koch - Russian polar ship - BOTTLE - 1/1000 , Typical boat of Mediterranean Sea - BOTTLE - Scale 1/200 , Lifeboat RS1 Colin Archer - BOTTLE - scale 1/230 , Yacht Spray of Captain Joshua Slocum - BOTTLE - 1/350 Scale , Two-mast yacht - BOTTLE - 1/1000 Scale My GALLERIES: Noname yacht-in-bottle, Two-mast yacht in bottle 1/1000 Scale, Yacht Spray of Captain Joshua Slocum - BOTTLE - 1/350 Scale, Mini SIB 001 - BOTTLE, Mini SIB 002 Catalan Ship - BOTTLE, Mini SiB 003 Typical boat of Mediterranean Sea 1/200 - BOTTLE, Koch - Russian polar ship - BOTTLE - 1/1000, Mini SIB 004 - 3 mast schooner
molasses Posted March 27, 2015 Author #76 Posted March 27, 2015 Hi Dave, I have two sets of drawings of Juan Sebastian Elcano (7,5 Mb and 23 Mb). I will try to find the links to a resource where it is possible to download them or I can send them to your e-mail address if it is necessary for you. Best Regards! Igor. Where were you two and a half years ago? I'm at 95%+ done fabricating with only deck details left. And I do not want to find that I have a bunch of mistakes to correct. Seriously, Igor, I appreciate the offer but I really don't need them. cog and IgorSky 2 Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
Guillermo Gallardo Posted March 27, 2015 #77 Posted March 27, 2015 Many thanks, Dave. Your answer is what I expected, skill and effort have been your main tools. Igor, your drawings are going to be well appreciated. IgorSky and molasses 2 Quote
IgorSky Posted March 27, 2015 #78 Posted March 27, 2015 Hi Guillermo Gallardo , I have sent PM to you. Best Regards! Igor. Quote My models in PROGRESS: Holland yacht-boeier by IgorSky - Scale 1/150 - BOTTLE , My COMPLETED models: Holland yacht-boeier by IgorSky - Scale 1/150 - BOTTLE , Three-mast schooner ATLANTIC - BOTTLE - 1/600 Scale, Captain Jack Sparrow arrives in Port Royal - BOTTLE - Scale 1/72, Boat with pirates - 1/72 scale - BOTTLE, Pilot cutter Jolie Brise - BOTTLE - Scale 1/240, Yacht J-class - BOTTLE - Scale 1/300 , Mini SIB - Yacht Jolie Brise and Lighthouse Fastnet Rock – BOTTLE – Scale 1/3000 , Schooner AMERICA - BOTTLE - scale ̴ 1/800 , Mini SIB - J-class Yacht - BOTTLE - scale 1/1000 , The Old Man and The Sea - BOTTLE - Scale 1/72 , Steam schooner LENA - BOTTLE - scale 1/290 , Koch - Russian polar ship - BOTTLE - 1/1000 , Typical boat of Mediterranean Sea - BOTTLE - Scale 1/200 , Lifeboat RS1 Colin Archer - BOTTLE - scale 1/230 , Yacht Spray of Captain Joshua Slocum - BOTTLE - 1/350 Scale , Two-mast yacht - BOTTLE - 1/1000 Scale My GALLERIES: Noname yacht-in-bottle, Two-mast yacht in bottle 1/1000 Scale, Yacht Spray of Captain Joshua Slocum - BOTTLE - 1/350 Scale, Mini SIB 001 - BOTTLE, Mini SIB 002 Catalan Ship - BOTTLE, Mini SiB 003 Typical boat of Mediterranean Sea 1/200 - BOTTLE, Koch - Russian polar ship - BOTTLE - 1/1000, Mini SIB 004 - 3 mast schooner
molasses Posted March 29, 2015 Author #79 Posted March 29, 2015 Time to post some progress. I'm basically focusing on deck details near and on the lower bridge just forward of the main mast. The flying bridge with radar units on roof and the boat with davits and containers below the boat. I drew the components I needed for the flying bridge on the computer and printed them out on card stock. Flying bridge parts with X-acto blade for size reference. Yes, I freaked out seeing them life size and wondering how I was going to cut out all those windows (22). But I surprised myself and all went well. Mostly complete flying bridge. I made the radar cage from 40 gauge (.0035 inch / 0.09 mm) wire with top and bottom made from a narrow strip and two discs of card stock. Other radar is a bug pin with the head built up with a couple dips in gesso. The roof of the lower bridge has two holes drilled in it to receive the two pins which will be cut shorter later - they are much too useful now as handles. Some detailing remains. I worked on the davits, boats and containers as single assemblies on bases from paper. This is essentially the same as on the ship (except the base is a thick steel plate) and works out well for me. Six containers, two davits and a boat. The containers were made from basswood sanded to diameter then cut off to length. I made lots so I could use those that were closest in length, even a couple thousandths difference in length at this size is noticeable. Davits and cradles made from 30 gauge wire. Boats were made the same as the others made earlier. The boats need thwarts, oars, rudders and tillers. These three assemblies will be glued to their places after the ship is in the bottle. At least that's the plan. I may be able to install the boat & davits assemblies before but I won't know until later - it seems better to plan for the worst case at this point. I also made two of these racks with three more containers each. I've assumed these containers hold inflatable life rafts - sixteen total. One of three fire hose reels on deck. Here's the group photo including the motor launch at far right which is now just a painted hull needing floor boards, seating, motor compartment, tiller and rudder. Dave IgorSky, hexnut, Omega1234 and 4 others 7 Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
Chasseur Posted March 29, 2015 #80 Posted March 29, 2015 Excellent detail at this scale Dave. I forgot about your mini clothes pins for holders. I really do need to make myself some! The white lady is coming along nicely. Jeff IgorSky 1 Quote A mighty fortress is our God a bulwark never failing!
mtaylor Posted March 29, 2015 #81 Posted March 29, 2015 Amazing.... IgorSky 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
molasses Posted March 29, 2015 Author #82 Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) Jeff, If you look closely you may notice three sizes of clothespins. Here in the States the mini clothes pins can be found at Walmart in the craft section and the small ones in the office supply section. It seems strange they are in different sections but they are. Edited March 29, 2015 by Dave Fellingham IgorSky 1 Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
mtaylor Posted March 29, 2015 #83 Posted March 29, 2015 The mini's are in the office supply section because they were originally being sold as "paper clamps". Yeah.. bizarre, I know. IgorSky 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
cog Posted March 29, 2015 #84 Posted March 29, 2015 Stunning ... silence IgorSky 1 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Chasseur Posted March 30, 2015 #85 Posted March 30, 2015 Guys thanks for the tip about Walmart. I shall have to pay them a visit .... Jeff Quote A mighty fortress is our God a bulwark never failing!
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