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Planking of the quarter deck.

There seem to have been different methods during this period. Fully planked or with a grating of beams in the middle.
The grating appears to have come into use later. Mostly on ships that sailed to the tropical seas. 
Possible to cool the area under this deck. Or to give the helmsman a better view of the sails. Who knows?

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This model gets the full planking. With 3 openings :
For the block of the main sail.
For the ladder between main and quarter deck.
For the removable cover for the helmsman.

Planking of this deck is done in the same way as the main deck.

Planking on the stern area is also "weird". 4 planks are not in the length but in the width.
Reason: If you look at the opposite side, here are the same planks also placed in the width.
Correct or not ?? I don't know, but it is logically acceptable.

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These 4 planks are in the width at the bottomIMG_20190806_190844.thumb.jpg.cc34cc2b7d02578c3e321de9f02bba31.jpg

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Started with the cabin under the poop deck.
This was the captain's cabin. There is one door for access and 3 small hatches.
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A table with 6 chairs is provided.
At the back there is a couch that can also be used as a bed.
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Am actually not satisfied with the finish of this cabin (interior and exterior).
Given the long buildtime of this model, I struggle to stay focused
That's why I restarted with military 1/72 modeling ( build log in the shore leaf topic) and later the Bounty project will be restarted again.
Building on this model will temporarily be a bit slower in the near future.

 

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@ GL

I prefer, as good as possible, in a lower acceleration. 

It remains a hobby for me.

 

@ Michael

Yes, the idea is to build a model with full rigging and sails.

 

Thanks for comments and likes

 

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A month later. A small update,

Further accessories are installed in the captain's cabin.
Crates and small barrels (probably with the personal wine and beer supply of the captain ;))
A wall rack for nautical charts etc , a mattress, pillows and bags are in progress

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I also tried to build 16th century buckets.
My biggest problem was the  thickness of the side from the bucket.
A bucket from Mary Rose served as an example
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After several failed attempts, I made something that comes close to the original 

The start was an empty .22 LR casing (of course legally obtained according to Belgian law)
These are too long, so first i saw tmem to size. IMG_20191008_183349.thumb.jpg.96fe040199e348c43f3c81f8aa158975.jpgIMG_20191008_192720.thumb.jpg.d27690ef750cef8df5385b3ba230e497.jpgA .22 short was better, but I don't have a license for that type of ammunition.

The side of the bucket is made of plastic sheet

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This is glued around the casing with CA glue and a strap of plastic sprue is glued around the bucket

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Painting and weathering (and a SU76i that is almost finished)
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Apply a rope, and a batch of 9 is ready. Bucket N° 10 ended up as a scrap (The rope appears thicker on the photo than in reality)
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Small update,

 

The captain's cabin is furnished. More detail can be added but that is not really going to remain visible.

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The poop deck planking has started. First a test, the planks are made a bit tapered.

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Planking in progress.

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Nice work on the cabin and the poop deck, I just wonder, if it wouldn't be more logical to start from the centre line and work outwards?

 

On 11/4/2019 at 7:36 PM, md1400cs said:

As always - a treat to follow. - love the map (could have been called a chart in those days??)

some still do ...

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5 hours ago, cog said:

I just wonder, if it wouldn't be more logical to start from the centre line and work outwards?

I now have 5 planks on each side of the mast.
And there comes central 1 in the middle, this plank will then be slightly wider than the other planks.

 

My knowledge of the English language is not that good (Never learned it at school).

So, Mr. Google says

 chart = grafiek =image.png.119686ad82809da184ca15e524024e55.png:blush:

Since I am active on this forum my English knowledge has improved. But it looks if there are different ways to speak and write English.


English english
American English
Australian English

 

Is this correct ?

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Wonderful work, Patrick. Very lively captain's cabin.

If I remember correctly, weapons were stored in it. 

I want to recommend you one topic on rigging Pelican / Golden Hind, but I'm not sure that the administration allows links to extraneous sites.

Are you also a tankman?

 

Ron

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16 hours ago, Apxeos said:

Are you also a tankman?

Thanks Apxeos.

Someone who has built more than 1400 military models. Is probably "a tankman".

 

In the meantime this shipyard has been neglected in function of my little Bounty project.
The only thing that happened the last months :
The poop deck is largely planked and the LED lighting has been tested.

 

Also, 

Through these months of silence at this shipyard. I'm thinking about changing the title of this log.
Given the fact that making an exact copy of the Golden Hind is impossible. It might be better to delete this name from the title.


Maybe

"Pelican"- scale 1/45 -  How an English armed merchant merchant from the 2nd half of the 16th century may have looked like.

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Merry Christmas and a happy 2020 to everyone

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Hello Patrick, Just catching up on your Golden Hind build. Great job you are doing with all of that great detail. I sure wish now that my Golden Hind were of a larger scale so that I to could have added a lot more detail. Super job you have did on the Great Room Furniture it all sure dose look very fitting. Just love your idea of creating buckets out of 22 caliber shell casings', great idea and they sure turned out great, Well Done.

Regards   Lawrence 

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On 8/27/2019 at 7:52 PM, Backer said:

The grating appears to have come into use later. Mostly on ships that sailed to the tropical seas. 
Possible to cool the area under this deck. Or to give the helmsman a better view of the sails. Who knows?

I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that the grating came into use with the advent of below-deck guns, to disperse the powder smoke. What evidence this statement is based on, I don't know, but it seems to make sense.

 

Beautiful work, as usual.

 

Reconstructing a famous ship for which there are no plans or contemporary pictures (e.g. the Mathew, the Mayflower etc) can only be an educated guess based on available information, and certainly there's no way of knowing what exactly the Golden Hind looked like. But to my mind you have every justification in keeping the name - I think that with the thorough and painstaking research you've put into it your model approaches more closely the true form she would have had than any other I've ever seen.

 

Steven

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On 1/10/2020 at 9:07 PM, canoe21 said:

Hello Patrick, Just catching up on your Golden Hind build. Great job you are doing with all of that great detail.

Thanks Lawrence. Much appreciated.

 

On 1/11/2020 at 9:46 AM, Louie da fly said:

I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that the grating came into use with the advent of below-deck guns, to disperse the powder smoke. What evidence this statement is based on, I don't know, but it seems to make sense.

Somewhere  I also read the same. I think in the book " the ship" from Bjorn landstrom.

Grating will be provided in the hatches on the main deck.

Building a 16th century ship is harder than I ever thought...

 

Meanwhile.
The build of this little model is the cause of all the delays on this shipyard.:Whew:

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Steven it looks like the Bounty to me. But I could easily be mistaken.

Patrick Nice work on the Golden Hind, I remember as a little boy my father worked on a very small model of the Golden hind probably not much longer that 6 inches or so I remember the name and the wooden block that was the hull shape. 

Michael

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14 hours ago, Louie da fly said:

That's beautiful. What ship is it?

 

Steven

 

A "mini" Bounty.

Building two ships simultaneously is too difficult for my poor brain...

So, this yard is temporarily on hold

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Hi Patrick,

It is believed that grating was already used on Mary Rose.

In the second half of the 16th century, this can be said with confidence.

Followed your example and renamed your own theme.

P.S. Perhaps this link will help with the rigging of Golden Hind: https://www.shipmodeling.ru/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=73413&start=885

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On 1/13/2020 at 8:29 AM, Backer said:

 

Building two ships simultaneously is too difficult for my poor brain...

So, this yard is temporarily on hold

 

Patrick, I believe you are underestimating your 'poor' brain.

Myself, I prefer to work at two or three different projects at the same time. There comes always a moment that you have to cease the work at one model due to drying time, lack of material, further research or simply because you have had it for a while with that model. With a back-up model you can always continue.

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21 hours ago, Apxeos said:

Perhaps this link will help with the rigging of Golden Hind

Thanks for the link, very interesting.

 

7 hours ago, G.L. said:

Myself, I prefer to work at two or three different projects at the same time. There comes always a moment that you have to cease the work at one model due to drying time, lack of material, further research or simply because you have had it for a while with that model. With a back-up model you can always continue.

I apply this method with my military models. The maximum build ever was about 10 in scratch at the same time (the Hotchkiss H35 / 39 family).
More than one ship at the same time simply does not work for me.
Not enough experience with ships, I think.

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