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Pelican, later renamed as Golden Hind, by Backer - scale 1/45 - Galleon late 16th century


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No, a fighting top doesn't look like a large barrel - a crow's nest does. 

 

Crow's nests were commonly used in whalers - the lookouts were stuck up there looking for whales in frigid conditions for hours and hours, so they needed some protection from the elements.

 

But search google for an image of a true crow's nest, and you won't find anything (I know - some months ago I was trying to sort out what a crow's nest really was and got no help from google at all.) :default_wallbash:

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Indeed, a mast top is not a crowsnest. 

When I was young. I (and probably many of us) dreamed to be a pirate, exploring the horizon from the crowsnest, high in the mast.
Now I discover that I sat actually in a simple mast top. ☹️
My childhood dream, shattered to pieces 😲 😆

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crow's_nest

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https://maryrose.org/blog/in-the-museum/museum-blogger/the-mary-rose-crow-s-nest/

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Patrick,

Nice work with mast - reminds me of the Vasa I did some time back. I have the mast parts from the museum if you like - I can find and post them here? Looks as if you have it just right however.

 

Cheers,

 

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Building the mast tops

 

Mast tops
The size ?? 
In this era you will find all sizes : small, big,  high, low.


Looks like 2 armed soldiers or sailors should have enough space in it.

And the  "supports" under the mast top are usually longer than the bottom diameter of the mast top (white arrows)
The top of the main mast is usually slightly larger than that of the fore mast.

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First did some testing with paper before buildig the "baseplate"

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I first do the main mast until the base plate is ready, and then do the same with the fore mast.

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Thanks for following

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4 hours ago, Backer said:

Building the mast tops

Looks like 2 armed soldiers or sailors should have enough space in it.

 

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Enough space? It looks to me that their legs are cut off to create space 😁.

Maybe that's the reason that the right man needs some boose, to daze a bit. I have the impression that the left man needs some as well. Luckily it is coming.

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33 minutes ago, G.L. said:

Enough space? It looks to me that their legs are cut off to create space 😁.

Maybe that's the reason that the right man needs some boose, to daze a bit. I have the impression that the left man needs some as well. Luckily it is coming.

Maybe they haven't earned their sea legs yet?

 

 

(Not sorry)

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12 hours ago, G.L. said:

Enough space? It looks to me that their legs are cut off to create space 😁.

Maybe that's the reason that the right man needs some boose, to daze a bit. I have the impression that the left man needs some as well. Luckily it is coming.

 

12 hours ago, SweepHall said:

Maybe they haven't earned their sea legs yet?

 

 

(Not sorry)

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If we look at this complete drawing. Life on board of a 16th century ship was fun.... 🙈
Eating, drinking and the "other pleasures" in life.
The only one who looks serious is the captain.

 

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Continue with the construction of the mastops.
This is more thinking time than construction time. The intention is to make something with these as examples.

(Start at the top left clockwise Mataro model, Vasa, Mary Rose, Vasa)

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An uninvited guest at the shipyard ...

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Adding the main "supports" as on the Mary Rose.

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Making the "upper ring" from  several planks 

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Glue the ring to the supports.

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Still a lot to do

Main mast top under construction, fore mast is following.

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Thanks for following.

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Those tops look very good, Patrick.

 

It's hard to tell from the photo whether the foretop is too big because it's closer to the camera than the maintop is. Just check it by eye to be sure, or take a photo from directly side-on, so you don't get the camera messing up the proportions. Otherwise you may be giving yourself unnecessary work.

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4 hours ago, Louie da fly said:

Those tops look very good, Patrick.

 

It's hard to tell from the photo whether the foretop is too big because it's closer to the camera than the maintop is. Just check it by eye to be sure, or take a photo from directly side-on, so you don't get the camera messing up the proportions. Otherwise you may be giving yourself unnecessary work.

Thanks Steven

 

The fore top is only 2mm smaller in diameter than the main top.
This really doesn't look good and the conversion is now underway.

 

These are the "charms" of scratch building a model without plans, haha.

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Fair enough. 2mm isn't much - it's probably hard to see the difference between the two mast tops - so it's probably right to do all that work again (sigh) tomake a new top that looks right on the foremast.

 

1 hour ago, Backer said:

These are the "charms" of scratch building a model without plans, haha.

I do know what you mean . . .  :default_wallbash:If I had a dollar for every change I've had to make in a scratch build, I'd have - several dollars.

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12 hours ago, Slowhand said:

Hiya Backer, I guess you use a scroll saw for the mast tops which one, great work by the way love the wood staining to give the weathered look.

 

Thanks,

 

Actually not. 

A Stanley knife, half round file and sandpaper are used

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Hello,

 

With the main mast top ready and a smaller fore mast top under construction, it is time to think about the main and fore topmasts.

In many drawings the top mast and flagpole are in one piece. A simplification of the 16th century painters or was this reality.

 (In one piece about 15    Seperately : 1  )

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Masts in this period could not be dismantled. 
The different parts of the mast were firmly attached to each other How? not a clue yet ...

 

Mast tops

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Making top masts on my home-made lathe.  To my surprise it worked out quite well.

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Determine the length
The masts in the Aeropiccola drawings are quite correct in length.

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The length of my top masts are long enough to use both methods. Top mast flagpole separately or in one piece ( not yet decided what methode).

To be continued, thanks for following.

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Patrick, comme toujours un très bon travail. !!

 

Je ne sais pas si votre deuxième langue, après le néerlandais est le français - je suis né en France donc c'était ma première ....

 Je pratique juste haha - J'ai aussi vécu au Mexique quand j'étais adolescent, j'ai épousé un Brésilien donc juste par «chance» pas par intelligence, je peux parler quatre langue hmmmm

Many Europeans speak three - two are very common indeed.

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