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Pride of Baltimore II by Bill Hime - scale 1:48 - embellished version


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Good morning everyone!

 

This log is the evolution of what was a kit build, that out of frustration and disappointment, is now a full campaign into scratch building.

I bought Model Shipways "Pride of Baltimore II", 1:64th scale what now must be a couple years ago. I was beyond excited when it arrived. My wife and I spread the contents across the counter, separating, grouping every strip as we checked off the material list.

We counted cannons, pulleys and deadeyes...This is where my initial frustration was seeded. The cannons where so small, with little detail to enjoy. Nonetheless, I jumped in with enthusiasm. I built the bulkhead frame and fared it out for planking. I had planned all along to build this model as an embellished version replacing decking and planking with Redheart, Yellowheart, and Holly. I had also planned on eliminating some of the "modern" features on deck and making it more/less true to the original schooner.

 

I have to admit, at the time of purchase, I settled for this kit. The budget was not there for me to purchase the ship I wanted, "HMS Surprise", 1:48 scale by A L. I was concerned with the scale of 1:64th from the beginning in that it wouldn't give me the room to be creative with exotic woods, building a "jewelry box" display piece.

So it sat, staring at me. I found myself avoiding this forum, not wanting to answer to having no updates..silly, I know. Over time the "Pride" found it's way back into the box preached on a high shelf.  The shipyard was silent, tools hung motionless and frustration became loss.

Finally, life took back over, as it always does. I wondered in and out of MSW for some time there after. I logged back in this past March I think, only to find I had loss a good friend, Augie Bruno.

Augie's passing hit me hard. I had planned on telling him I retired from healthcare. I had mentioned how I hate how time and the busy-ness of life steals from us the things we love most.

 

We spent the last winter and spring renovating our new property. I turned a cabin next to house into my cabinet/furniture shop. I made a separate space within for the shipyard. Business took off with a bang but lately, my benches are idle without any work on the books.

So what life has afforded me is time to be here with good friends and a shared passion. Winter will reach Wisconsin soon enough.

 

Now to the build; I'm resizing the plans from 1:64 to 1:48 scale. 

 

Materials featured: Hard Maple and Basswood for frame and structure. Redheart for planking, Yellowheart for decking, Holly, Ebony and brass and copper for details. treenails will be copper and brass pins.

 

I look forward to any input or thoughts as this project moves along! I'll be spending time this weekend readying the shipyard for this build and start resizing my materials list with an online scale calculator.

 

 

Sincere Regards to All,

 

Bill

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Hi Bill,

I was disappointed with this kit myself even though I started it and found a bunch of poorly cut bulkheads which I didn't correct before I planked. Your plan sounds fantastic with the use of beautiful hardwoods. This is something I wanted to do myself and I found that I was substituting some nice wood that I bought pre cut. Since these ships are some of the most beautiful to me and my time is limited and I live in a small appartment, I decided to just forge ahead with the whole project and go off the reservation- turning it into an 1812 privateer with 14 guns. I found much better guns than the ones provided at the Lumberyard. 

 

I really look forward to this build of yours as you are a real wood worker and I love the beauty of natural wood myself. I will be following along with great interest!

Phebe

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Thanks Phebe and Frank!

I've been away on a family trip. A little more work on the shipyard/shop today. Winter is fast approaching Wisconsin. I have a little more insulation to do and drywall in the shipyard.

Might try to run in to Kinko's tonight to resize the plans. ;)

 

Bill

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Good evening everyone!

I've spent the afternoon working with converting my materials list for POB II 1:64 to 1:48 scale. I've played plug and play for a couple of hours now and feel like it shouldn't be this difficult.

 

So a plank that is 1/16" x 3/16" at 1:64 scale is;  ???? x ???? at 1:48..........................and that's where I'm stuck, lol??????

 

 

Looking for input :) :) :)

 

Bill

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Brian, Don and Jcoby,

 

Thanks guys...three minds all thinking alike!

It's situations like this that I like the decimal system so much more...I mean come on! what's 1/12 of an inch lol?! Well at least I have an engineer's ruler with 12ths on it.

I suppose I could just approach this build in metric from the very beginning ;)...No! LOL!

 

I'm going to start converting my list tonight. I'll post the conversions ;)

 

 

Bill

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I suppose I could just approach this build in metric from the very beginning!

 

Fractional divisions is where Imperial really shines. Need 1/3 of 12"? 4" Need 1/3 of 100mm? 33.333333...mm. Need 1/2 of 7/16? Just multiply the denominator by two (7/32). Need 1/6 of 12"? That's 2". Need 1/6 of 100mm? Good luck doing that in your head.

 

I work with both measuring systems and metric has its advantages but Imperial also has its advantages. There is good reason the construction industry hasn't moved to metric and other countries just adopted metric versions of the Imperial system for construction.

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Jcoby, you're absolutely correct. I work with both as well, But as A Cabinet/furniture-maker, finish carpenter, I live in the Imperial math world :)!

 

Actually, it's not all that difficult. Just the short time here tonight I've been doing conversions, many of them are repeated numbers :)!

 

 

 

Bill 

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Dang Bill just blow the stinkin plans up and take the measurements off them to the nearest 1/64 :) make some sawdust dude - even do overs are better than doing the math :D

 

Just kiddin.... Looking forward to your BUILD!!

 

Lou

Hey Lou! great to have you come by! Lol, I have to set an example for my 16 yr old son, not to mention, keep my OCD happy!

 

 

Bill

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Hey Bill,

 

This is why spreadsheets were invented my friend! Once you know the conversion factor (1.333 in this case), let the spreadsheet do the heavy lifting and give your brain a rest. Then you can concentrate on what you are bettter at than the computer - making sawdust! :)

Good morning Everyone!

 

Grant, Well heck, that sounds way too easy, lol. I just asked my wife if our computer could do a "spreadsheet". She looked at me sideways and giggled. "Of course", she answered.

You would think with all my "higher education", I might have picked that skill up somewhere along the way, lol! 

 

So I'm getting a lesson on spreadsheets today!

thanks Grant :)

 

 

Sjors!!! Great to have you drop in my friend! Lol, it's in active production! Resizing plans when I can get into town this week for sure. I'm going to throw together a desk/work table for the new shipyard today :)

 

 

 

I have missed being here with good friends and new friends. You all give me a great deal of peace..

 

 

Bill

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  • 9 months later...

Wow....seems like every time I step back in here to continue what I've started, another year has passed since my last post. Well I guess it's not a year yet, just 284 days, 7 hours, and 37 minutes, give or take.

A lot has happened in that time, life is like that. we can't stand still enough for "life" not to happen. long story short, I've closed the cabinet/furniture shop. Turns out, I'm not a very good businessman. I'm even worse at meeting deadlines.

So I'm back working in ICU at the VA. I love being back and love my job. So I have this big beautiful wood shop that is finally going to become the official shipyard. I've got a lot of cleaning and some rearranging to do. I do have my resized plans for the POB II and a good deal of material to work with.

I guess I pick up where I left off...Hello everyone! I've missed being here terribly, hope everyone's well :)

 

 

Bill

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7 hours ago, gjdale said:

Hey Bill - so glad to see you back! Sorry to hear the cabinet/furniture shop didn't work out but pleased to hear you're back doing something else you love - helping other people.

 

Can't wait to see you making sawdust again.

 

Welcome home, my friend. :)

Great to hear from you Grant! Hope all well Down Under! Thank you, it means so much to come some place where even after a long absence you feel like you're just returning from a long voyage. This is a safe harbor with good friends, and you are definitely one of them!

 

 

Bill :)

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Hi Bill:

 

Just think in terms of making everything larger by a constant factor of 1.3333.... piece of cake for an old sawdust maker like yourself.
Good choice to go "scratch" on that model, and 1:48 is a great scale to work with.  
I remember, I was going to go 1:50th on my Connie until I did my original conversion scaling and realized she was already a very large model at kit size.  Going to 1:50th would have been HUGE!

BTW.... The tragic loss of our friend Augie was a sad time for all who knew him through MSW.  

 

Cheers

Dave


 

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