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Hi Everyone, not posted for a little while as I've been busy on the masts, yards and spars.  Didn't post while I was doing them as I thought it would be better to post the whole lot, so here goes

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This shows all three masts with their respective yards.

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Fore Mast Yards

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Main Mast Yards

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Mizzen Yards

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Bowsprit Yard and Jib

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I will now start on the standing rigging and I am still pondering whether to attach the sails or not.

 

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Hi Zappto, As with all first time builders I'm in uncharted territory but I'm thinking that I will do as much of the standing rigging and ratlines that I can while the masts are off the ship which will allow me a little more room to work.  Thank you for your kind comment.

 

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First attempt at the shrouds and crowsfoot for the Mizzen Mast.

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I had a bit of a nightmare with the shrouds looping over the top of the mast as there doesn't appear to be any means shown of holding them firm - just a loop.  This is presenting problems with tensioning the deadeyes so until I can work out a way to hold it in place I'm leaving the deadeyes loose.  Also with the shrouds there are 3 and everything I've read about them shows them in pairs.  Have any of you guys got any useful tips on this?  On this one I've seized the three strands together but it looks a bit clunky!

 

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Hi Guys I've just re read my post above and realize that I've mentioned the shroud loops over the Mizzen Mast and didn't post a photo, so here goes

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You see what I mean, the loop is awful and those blocks are equally embarrassing so I changed both

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You'll see here the difference.  I left the final seizing until it's placed in position.

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These blocks are much neater.  I then re looked at the deadeye rigging, see the photos in the previous post.  I wasn't happy with them so I re did them and after three attempts got the following result

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I know that the eyes aren't in alignment and the final tying off leaves much to be improved upon, but I'm happier with the result than before and I've learnt so much in the process, which is what this is all about in my book.

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Nice job on the rigging legineel.  Your Bounty is really starting to come together nicely😁...how much work was involved in your yards? Do they come mostly pre milled or do you have to sand them down from scratch? 

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4 hours ago, Vinnie said:

Nice job on the rigging legineel.  Your Bounty is really starting to come together nicely😁...how much work was involved in your yards? Do they come mostly pre milled or do you have to sand them down from scratch? 

Thank you for your kind comment.  The yards took a bit of time but I cut all the pieces and did each step as a production line.  I'm lucky to have a small lathe which meant that the tapering of the yards from the provided dowels was relatively easy.  The actual rigging and knot tying when you've big sausage fingers like mine is pretty tricky but rewarding.

 

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22 hours ago, OrLiN said:

Good work on the masts and spars.   Bold move fitting shrouds and ratlines off the ship and not in-situ.

Things are looking good.

Thanks for the comment OrLiN but I thought that trying to do as much of the rigging off the ship as possible was normal practice.  Either way it seems much easier at the moment but perhaps I'll come up against a big problem later - we'll see.

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Judging by the rest of your build I am sure that the rigging will turn out OK.  I have tried both methods of rigging and for my poorer skills I find it easier to insert the lower masts, and bowsprit, fit the fore and aft standing rigging then the lower shrouds and ratlines. I then fit the upper masts and rig as I go.

The yards get fitted where I can.  The only problem you may have is tensioning everything and from what I can see you should not have a problem.

There is no right or wrong way.

 

Keep building,

Orlin

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Leginseel,

 

I am also building the HMS Bounty (Constructo 1:50).  I am at the rigging stage. I built out each masts by sections (Lower, top and topgallant) which included the complete construction and placement of the Mast Top and I have installed each mast. I have just completed tying off the shrouds/deadeyes to the deadeyes on each channel but I have not tied the rat lines yet nor have I done anything to the top or topgallant shrouds but plan on doing so as my next step. I have ran a few of the standing lines but I stopped to review my way ahead with the rest of the standing lines and how the running lines connect. Each time I look at these drawings, I get more confused.

 

Attempting to gather all the rigging information from the drawings. Constructor advised they provided step-by-step drawings (never have found step 1 or any other step) and all you have to do is follow them from beginning to end.  Well I find that is easier to write but most difficult to follow. Once I get a better handle on what goes where and connects to what, I will restart my rigging…

 

Vic

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10 hours ago, vmwilson1 said:

Leginseel,

 

I am also building the HMS Bounty (Constructo 1:50).  I am at the rigging stage. I built out each masts by sections (Lower, top and topgallant) which included the complete construction and placement of the Mast Top and I have installed each mast. I have just completed tying off the shrouds/deadeyes to the deadeyes on each channel but I have not tied the rat lines yet nor have I done anything to the top or topgallant shrouds but plan on doing so as my next step. I have ran a few of the standing lines but I stopped to review my way ahead with the rest of the standing lines and how the running lines connect. Each time I look at these drawings, I get more confused.

 

Attempting to gather all the rigging information from the drawings. Constructor advised they provided step-by-step drawings (never have found step 1 or any other step) and all you have to do is follow them from beginning to end.  Well I find that is easier to write but most difficult to follow. Once I get a better handle on what goes where and connects to what, I will restart my rigging…

 

Vic

Hi Vic, thanks for the comments and I've tried to find your log but can't find it for some reason.  I'm with you totally over the Constructo rigging instructions as they are non existent and for them to say just follow the drawing is a complete cop out.  Thank goodness for sites like this and YouTube.  Hope all goes well with your build and I look forward to viewing your log.

 

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On ‎19‎/‎03‎/‎2018 at 5:47 PM, OrLiN said:

The only problem you may have is tensioning everything and from what I can see you should

OMG you were right OrLiN !!  The top shrouds presented me with the biggest headache but I've got round it I think with a little bit of cheating (apologies to the purists).  I decided to pin the shrouds in the holes with brass pins, wrap them with CA underneath and the cut them off.  Seems to have worked thus far, here are the photos -

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I'll blacken off the pin tops when they are all done.

 

I've progressed with the main mast shrouds and deadeyes and the air around here has been decidedly 'blue' I can tell you.  However, I've learnt such a lot and as they say next time I hope they will look better -

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I took this photo as it looked the best then realised the third one from the left was wrongly tied up - Doh!!  It's now been corrected.

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When I look at these close-ups I just want to tear it down and start again, but I'm taking the pragmatic view that I can only get better and hopefully I'll look on this with a smile in a few years time.

Thank you for all the likes and comments

 

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Good work on the rigging mate.  Always more than one way to skin a cat.

I have been doing this for more than thirty years and there are still times when I want to bin 12 to 15 months work because something

has turned out not to the standard I want and, it's always on the rigging. Keep at it, learn as you go. I still learn something new every day.

For a first wooden kit this is turning out well. Good luck with the rest of it.

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Good job on the rigging leginseel! She’s looking close to sea worthy😁...not good to hear your having problems with vague cop out instructions though. I’ve got several full size charts and plans that show the rigging in some detail with my mamoli kit. Since I have nothing to compare to, I don’t know if my instructions are considered good or not...I haven’t looked ahead enough to know whether I’ll have similar problems with step by step instructions. seeing the problems and headaches your encountering makes me realize that I need to start doing my research on techniques and tools 😐...I barely know a thing about rigging 

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10 hours ago, Steve 12345 said:

Buetifull work Nigel I still check in from time to time and your progress is fantastic 

Thanks Steve, good to hear from you.  Progress is slow but I'm getting there.  Doing ratlines at the moment and have already started again twice!!  I keep telling myself I'm learning, albeit the hard way.

 

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Hi Nigel ratlines are a strange beast your either in the mood for them or not ,personally I enjoy them you will get a feel for them sometimes there frustrating other times they work ,glad your still enjoying your build it's looking superb 

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Apologies to those of you that follow my progress but I'm having a break at the moment.  Having tried to do my ratlines in 30+degrees with sweat running down my face and not really enjoying it, I've decided to wait until the weather cools down.  Have a great summer to you all.

 

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image3.thumb.jpeg.3dd747304d77f895402aee07ec55fb30.jpegimage4.thumb.jpeg.a22a9705054a8e5aae0c4c8f8672b835.jpeg1831286988_image1(1).thumb.jpeg.0e5acc7a309acc6c18507cedf8fde0d6.jpeg1567339909_image2(2).thumb.jpeg.804918983bfb720f7b88a8c10e6bccdc.jpegHi Guys, that was a long break and I've returned refreshed. I've managed to complete all the ratlines and most of the standing rigging but I've been sidetracked by building WW2 dioramas which I'm greatly enjoying.  So I have two benches working at the same time . One with the Bounty and the other dioramas.  Anyway here is where I'm at at the moment.  I'm clearly out of practice at inserting photos and they are in the wrong order, but I'm sure that you get the picture.

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Great to see you back at your work bench. I am at the last stage of my Bounty.  I'll attempt to send a picture in a few days...

 

Vic

 

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Welcome back to the shipyard! Glad to see some more progress on the build which is looking really nice.

If you get a chance give us a photo of your WW2 diorama....sounds interesting.

 

Cheers.............Fernando :cheers:

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It took a lot of time and effort but my first build is completed.  Looking forward to your completed build.  I've got the bug so now that the Bounty is completed, I need to get my hands into another build.  Looks like I am going to tackle the San Ildefonso. 

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Hi guys I had a bit of a nightmare as I've had to spend so much time looking after my wife and travelling back and forward to various hospitals so I haven't been posting in my log as I should but I have finally completed my Bounty.  Here are my final photos373..thumb.JPG.5c3396245f3baabdd232999998672a18.JPG1356334978_375.Sailson.thumb.JPG.d76d71321bdc3ab37d6e03a43387cd11.JPG376..thumb.JPG.ea81fa7dab9360928b95f50bd0d29a0c.JPG1512682154_379.Complete.thumb.JPG.68202b8f3402d52077f4ba7edeac7014.JPG380..thumb.JPG.f3dd9a8c492abe2e1d660e43d815bc23.JPG381..thumb.JPG.f962ad9e12f2b2833833ec47f7a02251.JPG

Please forgive the lack of detailed progress pictures.  All I have to do now is make a base and a glass or perspex cover.  Thank you all for following my build, i've thoroughly enjoyed doing it over the past two and half years.  I have to say that the encouragement and advice gained from this site has been invaluable, thank you.

 

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1 hour ago, Warnerade said:

This is a fantastic piece, and definitely is now on my “todo” list, sorry to hear about the wife. 

Thank you you're very kind.

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Hi Nigel

Looks incredible and well done on the build. Many thanks also for sharing your work with us.

If you get a chance at some future date please post a photo of her on  the base and in the case.

 

In the meantime hope all goes well with you and your wife.

 

Cheers........Fernando :cheers:

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