BobG Posted May 15, 2020 Share #61 Posted May 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, hof00 said: To gauge the angle, I held the Drill on the Sternpost, this ensured that the hole is at the correct angle and perpendicular. That makes good sense. Did you have an extra long 4 mm drill bit so that the shank of the bit extended below the bottom of the keel in order for you to have something to hold on to as you turned the drill bit? If not, how were you able to turn the drill bit if the shank of the bit was flush against the sternpost? Many thanks Harry, Nirvana 1 Quote Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share #62 Posted May 15, 2020 Hi Chap, No, I did not have a long drill bit.... 🙂 I have had a thought, (Today of all days), why not, after planking, affix a Brass tube, Brass or similar, to the Sternpost with some "Strong Tape." Same ID as you Drill Bit.... (4.0 mm?) You can then be assured that the hole will be square and perpendicular, sound like a plan? I bored my Stern Tube hole holding the Bit on the Sternpost, as mentioned, loss of skin.... (I guess you may be able to find a longer 4.0mm bit but once the hole is started and deep enough, it should follow. I wouldn't use Power but do it by hand, my opinion only. (I used Long Nose Pliers and Fingers to turn the Bit.... ) Anyway, I am hopeful that this will work for you, nice to "Articulate" things if possible. (You can then operate the Tiller and the Rudder will move.... (Not that anyone will know apart from yourself.) I think maybe the Tube/Tape Drill Guide option will give you the required clearance between Rudder and Sternpost also?? What do you reckon? The communication is good, Sir, it's like revisiting the build and what I might have done differently. 🙂) I guess the Hull Planking first to add that strength to the False Keel structure? Anyway, at the end of the day, your build. (you'll decide the best ay to approach things, consider carefully and maybe there are others on this awesome site that can offer more learned advice than this Chap. Really happy to proffer my advice. 🙂 Cheers and Regards, Harry. (HOF) Nirvana 1 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobG Posted May 15, 2020 Share #63 Posted May 15, 2020 37 minutes ago, hof00 said: What do you reckon? I think you have hit on a lot of ideas. I guess I'll have to make a choice once I get to that point. It must have taken you forever to drill that hole just turning the drill with your fingers and pliers. Good on ya, man! I've finished gluing in all of the frames, keel stiffeners and the deck. I will start fairing the frames tomorrow. I always a bit unsure about this step since it's so easy to take off too much or too little which then creates problems in the planking. Are you currently building anything? Best regards, Nirvana 1 Quote Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share #64 Posted May 15, 2020 Hi Chao, Good to hear your progress. The Rudder Tube did not take all that long to drill, the Ply is pretty compliant. You'll be on to the Deck soon, look at it as an ":Opportunity, " (A Learning perhaps?) I am sure that your decking will be better than mine!! (If you can complete your Longboat to that standard, you have some awesome Ship modelling skills. 🙂 ) I'll send some Pen Duick photos to your E-Mal a little later this evening. (One thing I have learned, esp. with the Cutty Sark, is walk away if your not in the right head space. 🙂 ) Again, think about the next move and the consequences of your actions. Sleep on it perhaps? (Practical and Pragmatic.... I think that I am teaching you to suck eggs here? 🙂 ) (I am enjoying the Log and your build, as stated, I have plenty of downtime at present.... 🙂 ) Cheers....HOF. Nirvana 1 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share #65 Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) Yup, I'm currently doing a "Tear Down" and re-build of A/L Sanson. (19th Century Steam Tug.) I was not happy with the way that this was going, so Pull it apart and try to put it back together.... (Log on this site.) I cannot do anything at present as all my modeling stuff is in storage with my moving company until early June. Even after we take possession of the new property, there will be more than a couple of weeks to unpack things. One of my colleagues in a past life used to say to me, "So many ships, so little time...." I'm really looking forward to the Mamoli "Flying Cloud." (I love the Clippers....They take a huge commitment in terms of research/time but well worth the effort. (My father used to say to me, "Son, it's not what you come into the world with, it's what you leave behind." 🙂) Cheers....HOF. . Edited May 15, 2020 by hof00 Nirvana 1 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobG Posted May 15, 2020 Share #66 Posted May 15, 2020 13 hours ago, hof00 said: Good to hear your progress. The Rudder Tube did not take all that long to drill, the Ply is pretty compliant. Hi Harry, I spent part of this morning fairing the forward half of the frames. This process always makes me nervous. I hope I'm doing it correctly. I'll try and post some photos tomorrow and update my build log. 13 hours ago, hof00 said: You'll be on to the Deck soon, look at it as an ":Opportunity, " (A Learning perhaps?) I think it will be an adventure for sure! I hope I will be able to make a template from a few of the photos you emailed to me. 13 hours ago, hof00 said: Again, think about the next move and the consequences of your actions. Sleep on it perhaps? I'm getting better at slowing down and double checking the plans since the written instructions are practically useless and the photos in the instructions are small and rather blurry so they are much help either. I'm flying by the seat of my pants at the moment but I seem to be on the right track...we'll see! 13 hours ago, hof00 said: (One thing I have learned, esp. with the Cutty Sark, is walk away if your not in the right head space. 🙂 ) Did you make a build log of your Cutty Sark? 10 hours ago, hof00 said: I'm currently doing a "Tear Down" and re-build of A/L Sanson. (19th Century Steam Tug.) I'll have to take a look at your build log. You might want to add a signature with links for your completed builds and current log. You do such nice work that a lot more forum members would be able to easily find your models and logs that way. Just a suggestion... Thanks so much again for your continued assistance and interest in my build. Nirvana 1 Quote Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted May 16, 2020 Author Share #67 Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) 🙂 Yup, there is a Build Log of the Cutty…. (Build logs are under HOF00) No worries, (And no charge 🙂) for trying to offer assistance, that's part of the spirit of this site!! Cheers....HOF. Edited May 16, 2020 by hof00 BobG and Nirvana 2 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted June 18, 2020 Share #68 Posted June 18, 2020 just been catching up on some racing yacht build logs as i am presently on the Amati Dorade, you did a lovely job on her, well done Nirvana, hof00 and BobG 3 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share #69 Posted June 18, 2020 Thank you Sir. Kevin and Nirvana 2 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keelhauled Posted July 13, 2020 Share #70 Posted July 13, 2020 Wow Harry! What a great build! Your cases are also works of art! You should do a tutorial on building cases. very jealous of your skills. best, marc Nirvana and BobG 2 Quote Currently building the Cutty Sark http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1000-cutty-sark-by-keelhauled-mantua-kit-bashed-first-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted July 13, 2020 Share #71 Posted July 13, 2020 Beautiful build, I like seeing a model of a yacht that still are being used on open water. The case is a masterpiece itself. BobG 1 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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