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13 hours ago, DORIS said:

The screen of the seat of ease on the main channel - made according to original paintings from that period:

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Are you sure it is a seat-of-ease? It might be it, or it might be something else...

Check out this thread:   

(I am trying to imagine these poor souls trying to get inside that barrel in order to ease themselves, while having the "urge".... Where was the entrance to this structure? A door through the bulwark? From the top of this barrel?).
Also, Druxey had a point - this thing hungs directly above a gunport, which would make the crew of this gun "difficult" to operate it during the "use" of this facility, I think...  

 

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Hello dear friends,
thank you all very much for your kind words,praise and comments, that is a great honour for me and i do appreciate your support a lot.

Yesterday I finished ladders on shrouds, this is always so boring work for me, but this time I have decided to do it in the beginning....

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To Dziadeczek: Yes, I am sure, this is a screen around the seat of ease, you can see under it the outlet (it was not always used there) which drains dirt to the sea - so as not to pollute the hull of the ship. I have these information from one of the greatest experts on ships construction and history. In Czech forum you can find him as Kpt.KL. 
The crew got inside through the top hole as they climbed down the shroud. During the battle this screen was removed. It is not positioned immediately above a gun port but is shifted a bit to the side.

 

Here are some Van de Velde drawings with various design of that thing:

 

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And these smaller barrels could be intended for salted meat etc. as was mentioned above:

 

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On ‎12‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 12:12 AM, DORIS said:

To Dziadeczek: Yes, I am sure, this is a screen around the seat of ease, you can see under it the outlet (it was not always used there) which drains dirt to the sea - so as not to pollute the hull of the ship. I have these information from one of the greatest experts on ships construction and history. In Czech forum you can find him as Kpt.KL. 
The crew got inside through the top hole as they climbed down the shroud. During the battle this screen was removed. It is not positioned immediately above a gun port but is shifted a bit to the side.

 

Here are some Van de Velde drawings with various design of that thing:

 

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And these smaller barrels could be intended for salted meat etc. as was mentioned above:

 

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Aha, I understand. Are you building your exquisite model together with him? On the nameplate I see your name in the left lower corner, and in the right lower corner his, "Kpt. KL"

Or is he just a historical/know how expert for you?

Regards,

Thomas

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Yes, as TOM G wrote, I create and build the model by myself, but Kpt.KL gives me plenty of professional advice for more realistic result. I appreciate his help a lot, he learns me (and also other people) to do things better - not only making nice looking models, but also models corresponding to a real ships.
There are several models of the Royal Katherine that people build according to this modeling plan:

 

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https://www.amazon.in/Bauplan-Katherine-Modellbau-Modellbauplan-UY-W8EHF3196054/dp/B01IAKRG6W

 

but the result does not correspond to the design and construction of real English ships around 1670. In this plan there's a whole bunch of total nonsense that the planmaker invented. 
My question is - why to spend thousands of hours building something, what is only nice but not tied to a real ship, when I can do it correctly according to the reality in the same work?

Therefore, my model is based on historical evidence, quality literature and archaeological findings. I know that I can't always manage to do it right, but if I can, I try. It's the most demanding project I've ever done.

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I am trying to improve making wooden blocks to reach more realistic result. I use only basic tools (knives, raspers, sandpaper) and mainly my hands.  Here are several pics of blocks (with red points) I made last time, and you can compare them with others that were made in the begining.

 

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I also hung the fore and main lower yards on the masts for imagination, how large the model will be. The main lower yard is about 55cm long.(proportions are partly based on the plans of the HMS Lenox)

 

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2 hours ago, DORIS said:

Therefore, my model is based on historical evidence, quality literature and archaeological findings. I know that I can't always manage to do it right, but if I can, I try.

That's the way to go, challenging but satisfying too imo 🙂

 

Merry Christmas Doris!!

 

Dirk

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Thank you dear friends for your comments and "likes". 
I am pleased you enjoy my work.
Now I am finishing the cannons for lower and middle deck. It remains to make 32 smaller cannons for the upper and quarter deck but 18 of them will be fully detailed with rigging. I have given a detailed tutorial to this thread some time ago if you are interested in "how to do".

I have to admit that I am totally bored of such monotonous work.... Oh yes, I told to myself in past - "I will never build a three decker again"... Well, and I couldn't resist it again....😃

 

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Hello Jan, 

yes, there is visible only front part of these cannons so I have decided not to make unnecessary details on their aft side. Some of them I even had to shorten because there are reinforcement and stiffeners inside the hull.
On the other hand, the cannons on upper decks will be made in great detail, because everything will be well visible.

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Thank you for your kind words and all the "likes", dear friends. 

The cannons are finally placed inside the model; all are movable and able to adjust in height. Now the Royal Katherine looks much more like a warship.

 

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Have a Happy New Year 2020 and plenty of health, love and joy.

 

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