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Hi Doris,

 

happy newyear to you!

 

With guns she looks terrific. Is it the picture, or do the two aft guns on the lower deck have a lower calliber than the other guns? It looks as if they are not so thick as the others, and more like the guns on the upper deck.

 

Jan

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Hello dear friends,
I am really honoured reading your praise and kind words, I do appreciate your comments and likes a lot. Thank you very much for your support. 
Well, there are always various things or details I would like to improve in my work. Nobody is perfect, but it is a good motivation - trying to do things better.... This card model could by one of the most successful I have ever created, and also the most challenging. Hope I will finish the Royal Katherine this year, but there are plenty of problems to solve - especially some parts of rigging.  

 

27 minutes ago, amateur said:

Hi Doris,

 

happy newyear to you!

 

With guns she looks terrific. Ist is the picture, or do the two aft guns on the lower deck have a lower calliber than the ther guns? It looks as if they are not so thick as the others, and more like the guns on the upper deck.

 

Jan

Hello Jan,

You are right - these cannons are different - here are some documents according to which I made cannons for the Royal Katherine;

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in the aft section on lower deck there are the longest cannons (Culverin) with lower caliber - in this picture are in a red frame:

 

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And now I am continuing with other 14 cannons ( demi-culverin) for upper deck:

 

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Have a great time and enjoy the pics. 

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Beautiful work as always Doris, your craftsmanship and the quality of the work continue to inspire.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Hello Doris,
happy New Year !
I am always enthusiastic about your work. Not only are your sculptures unique, all other details cannot be surpassed in their execution. This type of model building is not available anywhere else in the world.
I hope that you will continue to delight us with beautiful pictures of your wonderful model in 2020.

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Thank you all, dear friends, I greatly appreciate your support.
Thank you also for the superb inspiration that I am finding in your threads on this forum, I am impressed by the perfect craftsmanship and also the realism. I admire your work a lot and also try to improve my models and want to shift them to a higher level of realism.

 

I would like to ask you for advice - do you have any idea what these two ropes with tackles (hooked on the upper deck) were used for? Do you have any diagrams or drawings with complete running of these ropes? ( I do not know from which point they started on the upper place - from mast or yard??) 
I would like to make rigging on the Royal Katherine correctly, unfortunatelly plenty of details I was not successful to find anywhere.😥

 

 

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Thank you very much, guys, that’s a great idea. They really could be lifts for the ship’s boats. I would like to place them on my model as well. I assumed that these ropes should be easily detachable in order to use the capstan. 

 

I have just finished other 14 pieces of demi-culverin for upper deck. The last 18 pices (10x demi-culverin for upper deck and 8x saker for quarterdeck will be made with all details).

 

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Hello Doris,
since it is a pair of tackles, each behind the foremast and probably the main mast, I suspect that these are topsail halyards.

In addition, a section from the book by Mondfeld page 310, No. 7.

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Source: Historic Ship Models, Wolfram zu Mondfeld, Sterling


As already mentioned, this is only a guess on my part. I am not an expert in 17th century ship rigging.
I hope that a specialist can provide you with more information.

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Hello Doris,

 

These are the tackles for the Top Ropes which were used to lower the Topmasts. They were hooked to the top rope pendants which ran through sheaves in the heel of the Topmast. These pendants started from an eyebolt in the Lower Mast cap running through one of these sheaves up to a block on the opposite side of the cap then down to the tackles. There is a very good illustration of this in Lee's Masting and Rigging book (page 55). Also in R.C. Andersons 17th Century Rigging,drawing #13 items 166,167 and 168. Hope this helps with your wonderful model build.

 

Dave :dancetl6: 

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Thank you for your advice, dear friends, I greatly appreciate your help.

 

Johann:  Oh yes, I also have this picture available and it will certainly help me to make halyards.

Dave: That's exactly the thing I was looking for. In the books there is a good description, but the pictures are not complete - that confused me a little, but this is a right solution I will make on my model.

 

I am continuing with the demi-culverin cannons for the upper deck. They will be created will all details.

 

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We also had to reinforce the shelf supports on which the model will be displayed. It already weighs more than 8 kg.

 

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You would not want that crashing down!

 

Your paper cannon are quite remarkable, Doris.

 

I agree that those lines are halyards, not for hoisting boats. There were tackles from the lower yard arms and on the main stay for handling ship's boats.

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Thank you for your praise and all the "likes", dear friends. I am happy you enjoy the pics and the progress.


Paper brings a huge range of options; it is possible to create almost everything using only ordinary modeling tools and it costs next to nothing (except spent work and time of course...). With every other model I can find a new and better application of this material. Of course, I prefer to make ornaments and scupltures from Modurit (this is my favourite modeling clay available in Czech Republic) and there is still opportunity to improve details and realism. Now I have made tiny reliefs for cannons,  8 of them will come for smaller cannons - sakers on the quarterdeck - these cannons will be made later. At the same time, I created other ornaments and placed them on the hull.

 

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I use mainly photos of museum models for inspiration.

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Doris, it is such a pleasure to see the wonderful sculptural elements that you make that adorn the ships that you build. Having watched your videos about how you work with the modeling clay, and realizing that your comment about easy to do with every day tools is a result of years of practice, a keen eye, and an artistic talent that is rare.

Thank you for continually sharing your work with us.

 

Michael 

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Doris,  your sculpting talent is so impressive that you could help some manufacturers with sculptures (or their moulds) for their ship offerings.  I am thinking for instance at Kolderstock Models from Holland, who provide some excellent and well known models of Dutch ships from the 17th century, but which are a little let down by their sculptures.  Once again, their kits are great, but with the "Doris touch" they would be real wonders.

 

OK, just an idea...

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