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Hello guys,

 

I've always like to build models since I was a young kid.  My first model ship was an AL Virginia Schooner, which I built when I was in third grade.  It wasn't museum quality, but pretty good for such a young kid.  I built a very small solid hull USS Constitution when I was in eighth grade, and an AL San Francisco Galleon the following year.  The Constitution was pretty easy but the Galleon's plank bending proved to be quite difficult so i came to this board as a lurker to get advice.  Last year, I built an AL King of the Mississippi that is 99.9% done, I just need to put on a few extras.  

 

Now, I've started my biggest project, an AL USS Constellation.  I was disappointed by the model, especially the fittings, stern, and instructions, so I'm making a custom ship of my own with a square stern as opposed to the rounded one supplied, and mostly custom fittings (although I haven't got there yet).  I go off to college in a month so I'm in a bit of a hurry, but so far it's looking better than any of my other ships, thanks to consulting various build logs and planking guides on this site and others.  I'll post a build log here sometime.

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Welcome to MSW.   As for your question about the windows... wander through the scratch area.  There's several different ways of doing them.   

 

The Constellation kit IS NOT the original frigate.  It's actually based on the 1850 sloop of war.   It doesn't have the hull lines nor much of anything else in common with the frigate.  There's at least one build of the Constellation (RC, scratch) of the original.  I took the AL kit and bashed it into the actual ship that AL based their kit on.  I do wish you luck on bashing the kit the way you want.....

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G'day (insert your name here ;)),

 

Welcome to MSW, good to see such a young and enthusiastic new member :).

 

48 minutes ago, ntmcd1 said:

Also, I was wondering how you guys scratch-build the intricate little windows and window frames on the stern of most ships.  I'll probably use some type of clear plastic as glass, but I don't know how to make the little wood frames.

Here's a LINK to the 1st post in my HMS Vulture build log where I start making the Stern Light Frames (most of the work starts on the following page). Unfortunately, you will need a Byrnes Table Saw to cut the various munions. It's a real good investment if you want to get into any serious Scratchbuilding, in fact I'd call it a "must have" :D.

 

57 minutes ago, ntmcd1 said:

Now, I've started my biggest project, an AL USS Constellation.  I was disappointed by the model, especially the fittings, stern, and instructions, so I'm making a custom ship of my own with a square stern as opposed to the rounded one supplied, and mostly custom fittings

I feel your pain. It was an AL kit that sent me on the path of Scratchbuilding in the first place, something for which I'll forever be grateful to AL for (but not much else ;):D).

 

Good luck with your build, and I look forward to seeing your build log.

 

:cheers:  Danny

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1 hour ago, mtaylor said:

Welcome to MSW.   As for your question about the windows... wander through the scratch area.  There's several different ways of doing them.   

 

The Constellation kit IS NOT the original frigate.  It's actually based on the 1850 sloop of war.   It doesn't have the hull lines nor much of anything else in common with the frigate.  There's at least one build of the Constellation (RC, scratch) of the original.  I took the AL kit and bashed it into the actual ship that AL based their kit on.  I do wish you luck on bashing the kit the way you want.....

The constellation kit I have seems to be based off of both.  I went on the modern constellation when I was younger, and the weather deck had no cannons, and no wide open area that leads to the gun deckuss-constellation-main-deck.jpg

As opposed to:

CO6.jpg

The kit I have still has a rounded stern like the ship in Baltimore, however.

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Right... the kit claims to be the 1798 version. It's not. The kit has the lines from the 1850 kit (rounded stern) and has some fictitious gun scheme.  Here's a couple of links that might solve the confusion... or create more.  :rolleyes:

 

https://repository.si.edu/handle/10088/2404

 

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a241916.pdf

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Welcome aboard ntmcd1, it is great to have you here.

 

Can you please tell us your real name?

 

This is a great site for learning/sharing tips and techniques and there are a lot people here who are willing to help and advise and answer any questions you might have.  We are all here to help and encourage each other.

 

I wish you smooth sailing with our gallant crew and happy modeling.

 

Regards,

Anja

 

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Please do not hurry. Take the problem with you and maybe you will find other enthusiasts to talk with. AL is one of many kit manufacturers. I like the Mosel Expo group because they offer free replacement parts for their kits. The English JoTiKa have some of the best stuff out there but you pay for it. Don't forget Google and You Tube for inspiration and help. I can say this because at 67 I have made every possible mistake and find new ones to make monthly. The worst critics are the ones who do not build themselves, the best have been at this and know the why of things which happen. Good luck at College. I an a Purdue Alum, class of '74 after three years in the army.

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ntmcd1,

I also built the AL Constellation.  It was my first attempt at model ship building so I really didn't know any better about the accuracy or drastic lack of it.  I picked up the kit from a fellow MSW member for a very low price so I said why not.  The model provided a vast amount of experience for me since I had none previously.  I don't think I could have completed it without the help of everyone on the MSW site.  I did quite a bit of bashing on the rigging and made the sails from scratch since the kit did not supply any.  As for the hull I ended up keeping it pretty much the same as the kit.  Now that I am scratch building my second model I can see how silly it was for AL to release this as the 1798 Constellation.  I don't really have the pride in model that I used to.  On the other hand, most if not all the people that look at it don't know the difference anyway.  They just look at the overall model and go wow, look at all the detail and then my pride returns a bit.  I guess all will be fine as long as nobody from MSW ends up in my living room!:P  A link to my build log is in my signature.

Tom

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