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HMS Winchelsea - 1764 - Group Prototype by Chuck (1/4" scale)

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I prefer the dark roof. This is a peace of architecture.  The focus is on the columns and  the moldings and windows. The upper and lower framing ( roof and frieze) have to be darker in order to make a contrast.  Otherwise it might look a bit out of balance in my opinion.

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Actually, you could argue that the dark version is too dark, and the unpainted too light.

in both contemporeneous models, there is almost no contrast between the painted friese and the shingled roof: there is a colour difference,but not too much difference in heaviness of the colour. You could try a colour that matches the original model slightly more: a bluish grey slate, in stead of the rather stark black.

 

And, although I will never try a modl like this myself, it is a joy to see how it should be done. I'm a daily visiting, non-posting admirer :)

 

Jan

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Just by looking at the pictures (and I am no specialist at all), it seems to me that the painted roof separates the quartergallery from the friese, while the natural one makes it part of it. I think that the most distinguishing feature of this ship is the friese, so I vote for the natural one.

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Hoping to try everything before deciding.  Here is the dark roof again but I made it much lighter.  I also painted the top blue to match the frieze which is like the minerva model.   Now I cant make up my mind.  I like them both.  I will study these photos and make a decision with your help. Always a lot of fun right....I do appreciate the help and your thoughts on this.  

 

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Natural on port side and painted on starboard, that will take care of this puzzle.😝 

Kidding aside I lean towards painted option. Seems Minerva's maker was not  pursuing  the authentic

colors and look  (use of Ivory).  This is purely matter of each authors vision and taste.

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Personally, I like the Minerva look of the natural shingles. The painted version clashes a bit with the background frieze color in my opinion while the natural shingles complement the lower finishing piece. But you know what they say about opinions...

 

Have a great time in New Orleans. You may more closely resemble that Chuck figurine after a few days of Louisiana cuisine!

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Hey Chuck - don’t miss this place in New Orleans - Napoleon House. Great Gumbo and Muflettas. The place has history - originally they wanted to spring Napoleon from Elba and move him here but he died first. Favorite bar in New Orleans - have a Pims Cup ! 

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Yummy!!! Cant wait.  Have a 6am flight so i will probably be wiped when i arrive.  

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I think natural looks best.  Maybe with a wash applied?  That would be an interesting experiment.

 

Alan

 

 

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7 hours ago, Chuck said:

Minerva is one of my favorite models.  It always serves to inspire me.  Here is my version (a little hesitant to place my wok against such a masterful contemporary model) of the shingled roof left natural.  I kind of prefer the natural look.  But I will sleep on it a bit.  What do you guys think.  I think the dark roof is too "in your face".  But I could be wrong.  Note how thin the shingles are sanded after each row is completed.  These are boxwood shingles.

 

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This is just me but I think that Fruitwood Gel Stain would make it all pop. 

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40 minutes ago, Chuck said:

Yummy!!! Cant wait.  Have a 6am flight so i will probably be wiped when i arrive.  

Make sure you post about the new Airport. 

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Chuck, thank you for putting in the effort to show this several ways.  My favorite is the natural wood shingles withe the top painted to match the frieze.

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Out of three, my favorite is the grey one. It doesn't shout out, like the black one, and there is a nice balance in the upper and lower part of the galleries. 

But pics can be misleading, the real thing in broad daylight should be what counts :)

 

the top painted is definitely better tham unpainted.

 

Jan

 

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I prefer the natural look.  Sometimes it can be difficult to find a good match with the paint and the printed frieze. Plus its such a small area and the fancy rail will affect how the roof finally looks.

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I think this discussion is very good, because I have been thinking that using CNC machining parts will make all models look the same, which will make the model making become a boring thing? That's going to take away the "soul" of model making. When I see so many opinions, I think it's very good. 

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I am very curious here about a decal approach for the frieze - it would allow variance of color for the background  and would allow you to apply the same finish you wish on top of the decals for a match to the hulls finish 

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Slate was propably used to cover a qgallery in those days. Here is an old shingle together with the Winnie.

The qgallery of HMS Surprise has a comparable construction. My daughter visited the ship in San Diego in 2017. Here is a picture.

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HMS Victory and HMS Trincomalee have both Black roofs over the qgallery.

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1 hour ago, Chuck said:

Ughh!!!! Long night

 

Bourbon Street at 5am.  It aint pretty.  But fun and now a bit fuzzy.

 

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nice photo... and there is a lot of garbage😲 you need to take a new one

befor and aft photo😆

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