Peter Bloemendaal Posted September 26, 2017 Share #1 Posted September 26, 2017 Well, here she goes, I'm joining the Syren club with another build log. I started this weekend and we'll see how far I get. It's my first attempt to build an advanced kit so there will be plenty of questions. Hopefully in time I maybe able to help others as well. There is not much more to say about this kit so here are the first photo's. Ryland Craze, Robin Lous, scasey88 and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heronguy Posted September 26, 2017 Share #2 Posted September 26, 2017 And quite a large club it is! Wonderful to see another build starting. Good luck and bon voyage! scasey88 1 Quote Doug Current Builds: Bluenose II - AL / Krabbenkutter / Prince de Neufchatel / Essex Cross-section / Syren / Barque Stefano / Winchelsea / Half Hull / Maria HF31 - Dusek / Bandirma - Turkmodel On the Shelf: Santisima Trinidad and Cross Section / HMS Cutter Alert / Tender AVOS / Confederacy Suspended Build: Bluenose II - Billing Boats Nr 600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scasey88 Posted September 26, 2017 Share #3 Posted September 26, 2017 Hello Peter, welcome to the Syren Club, It looks like you are off to a great start, your build is looking real good so far, I will follow along. Quote Shawn Current Build: US Brig Syren https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/16822-us-brig-syren-by-scasey88-model-shipways-164-scale/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted September 26, 2017 Share #4 Posted September 26, 2017 And now my chance to chime in Welcome! I look forward to you catching up with me and offering me ideas. Just a curiosity - Why do people feel it is necessary to have a flush sub deck? Also (LOL) why do everyone's bulkhead blocks look so nice and clean? Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman Posted September 26, 2017 Share #5 Posted September 26, 2017 I'm going to join as well. May I ask if you're Dutch, by any chance? I am and your name looks awfully dutch to me Quote currently: master korabel Schooner Polotsk finished: the Swift 1805, the Lady Nelson on the shelf: US Brig Syren, Le Renard and the Hermione Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share #6 Posted September 27, 2017 Thanks Dough & Shawn, Hi Floyd, not sure about catching up, I still work full time and promised to occasionally sit down with the admiral & not talk about boats so I can only put around 15 hours a week into the build. And I intend to take my time, whenever I get confident and rush things, inevitably breaks happen. So it looks like I'll be lagging behind and initially looking for ideas rather than giving them. My blocks only looked nice & clean because they just float there, I hadn't glued them in yet...lol Hi Dutchman, My wife snapped me up while on holiday in Holland from Perth, Australia in the eighties. I migrated to Perth in '88. I only naturalized to become an Aussie around 8 years ago, so I hung in there as long as I could, but I'm not Dutch anymore. (Bloemendaal is a town on the dutch coast, you don't happen to live there, do you??) Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted September 27, 2017 Share #7 Posted September 27, 2017 Good luck and happy building Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted September 27, 2017 Share #8 Posted September 27, 2017 Peter, Well, since I am also building the Syren, I like to welcome you. Your build looks very clean and good. Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnReid Posted September 27, 2017 Share #9 Posted September 27, 2017 Good luck Cheers ! John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share #10 Posted September 27, 2017 Thanks Rich, Per & John, Cheers, Peter Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted September 27, 2017 Share #11 Posted September 27, 2017 Peter - Like you I also work full time (typing this from my desk - Shh don't tell the boss). And I too have an admiral that I must obey. So my modeling work goes in spurts. Good luck and have fun! Adrift 1 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman Posted September 27, 2017 Share #12 Posted September 27, 2017 Hi Peter, so that explains it! Actually I live about 20 kilometers from Bloemendaal. So not in, but quite near. Have fun building the Syren, I'll be following your progres with great interest (the kit is on my shelf) Quote currently: master korabel Schooner Polotsk finished: the Swift 1805, the Lady Nelson on the shelf: US Brig Syren, Le Renard and the Hermione Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted September 27, 2017 Share #13 Posted September 27, 2017 Good start. Steve Nirvana 1 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share #14 Posted September 28, 2017 Just an update with a few photo's. I am close to finishing Chapter 2. Still need to varnish the lower deck and some sanding to bevel the bulkheads a bit more. I got a bit of a scare when one of the back bulkhead extensions broke off when it got caught on my shirt while sanding the blocks down. It's glued back on but without any extra support because all 4 sides need to be accessible for future work. It's going to be fun managing that... cog, scasey88, alde and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scasey88 Posted September 28, 2017 Share #15 Posted September 28, 2017 looking great Peter, you are going to pass me up in no time, I have been lucky so far and have not broken a bulkhead, I came close, just like you did I caught them on my shirt a couple of times but not enough to break them Peter Bloemendaal and Nirvana 2 Quote Shawn Current Build: US Brig Syren https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/16822-us-brig-syren-by-scasey88-model-shipways-164-scale/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share #16 Posted October 1, 2017 Some progress on Chapter 3. The "plank bender" turned out OK. A great stage of the build if you like sanding.... fnkershner, Dutchman, Overworked724 and 8 others 11 Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD11pilot Posted October 1, 2017 Share #17 Posted October 1, 2017 Howdy Peter! Welcome to the Syren club. Even though you're just a few steps into the project, it's easy to see that you do high quality work. I'm looking forward to watching another beautiful Syren take shape. I like that plank bender. Seems easier than the pin boards. Ryland Craze and Nirvana 2 Quote Eric O.<p>Current Build: US Brig Syren, kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD11pilot Posted October 1, 2017 Share #18 Posted October 1, 2017 Just curious. When did you buy the kit? We've seen some kits recently with poor quality plywood. The plywood in your kit looks good. Quote Eric O.<p>Current Build: US Brig Syren, kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted October 1, 2017 Share #19 Posted October 1, 2017 Peter - Great work! Keep bending and PS yes there is more sanding. Nirvana 1 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman Posted October 1, 2017 Share #20 Posted October 1, 2017 Even more curious than MD11pilot, I went to check my kit (which a relative brought me last christmas while visiting) and it has the reddish plywood in it. I understand that it is the poor quality kind? Should I ask the company to send me the better kind, like Peter's? Advise anyone? Quote currently: master korabel Schooner Polotsk finished: the Swift 1805, the Lady Nelson on the shelf: US Brig Syren, Le Renard and the Hermione Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted October 1, 2017 Share #21 Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) Peter, My original material from ME was good quality, but badly warped so it wasn't useful. Then I got a two new set from ME, both good but I opted to go with the latter white wood. (See my log) But I also have the "red plywood" set. Contemplating of putting the other set together just for the heck of it...... could be fun doing another "Syren"...... In my case I provided pictures to Marc at ME, proving my case regarding the warped keel. You should try to contact ME in this matter. Edited October 1, 2017 by Nirvana Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman Posted October 1, 2017 Share #22 Posted October 1, 2017 I think this reply was (also) meant for me. I will try and contact ME. Thanks for the advise! Tigersteve 1 Quote currently: master korabel Schooner Polotsk finished: the Swift 1805, the Lady Nelson on the shelf: US Brig Syren, Le Renard and the Hermione Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted October 1, 2017 Share #23 Posted October 1, 2017 Dutchman, sorry for leaving you out. And yes, it was intended for you too... Dutchman 1 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein erik Posted October 1, 2017 Share #24 Posted October 1, 2017 Hi and welcome to the syrens club i also got the bad plywood so I contacted M.E and got a replacements frame I think its Because of saving product cost that M.E at newer time provide the kit with bad plywood its not a good ting to do with a grait kit designed by Chuck Svein erik Dutchman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share #25 Posted October 2, 2017 Thanks All, I bought the kit about 2 months ago from an online company in Australia. I'm not sure how long they had it in stock. I had been reading about the "red" plywood, so I was happy when the kit arrived with the proper stuff. From what I have read it's definitely worth replacing. I had some minor warping but the jig and the blocks took care of that. When I checked the content of the kit, I had a double set of Carronades and the Carronade trucks were missing. Just sent an email to ME and they sent me the missing bits straight away. So I have had very little to complain about. Tigersteve 1 Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted October 2, 2017 Share #26 Posted October 2, 2017 Peter - it has been my experience that the Carronades provided are the wrong size. You might check yours. My kit is several years old. Nirvana 1 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share #27 Posted October 2, 2017 When you say wrong, do you mean that the supplied carronades are different from what the instructions say they are, or do you mean that the carronades don't match what should be on the ship based on it's history and/or scale? Nirvana 1 Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted October 2, 2017 Share #28 Posted October 2, 2017 Mine did not fit the proper space on the model. It's been a while, but as I remember they were too short and not tall enough. Nirvana 1 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bloemendaal Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share #29 Posted October 3, 2017 Hi Floyd, I did a quick check on the Carronades and I think I'm OK. I included a photo so if this triggers your mind and I'm wrong, let me know. When lining up the gun port lintels I realized I must have had a brain faze fitting the gun port sills. 1/4' is a smaller number than 3/16, right...., apparently not, so I glued in both rows orientated vertically instead of horizontally. After a few choice words and a frantic search further down the manual to see where it could cause me trouble I think I might have gotten away with it. (In the end I might even feel smart, because I got away with a lot less sanding than what I would otherwise had to do.....lol). Lesson learned: Concentrate & tripple check those silly imperial numbers when you are used to metric. cristikc, Ryland Craze, Dutchman and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 - Model Shipways - 1:64 Completed: US Brig Syren - Model Shipways - 1:64 San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Future build: HM Granado - Caldercraft - 1:64 LeRenard - Artesania Latina - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted October 3, 2017 Share #30 Posted October 3, 2017 Peter - I did the same thing which led to my removing and replacing. I think the key is did you make this mistake for both the sills & lintels. If so you will have issues with the Lintels. the Bulwarks will be too tall. And possibly you may not have enough material to sand the correct curve at the bow. Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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