LJP Posted February 26, 2021 Share #571 Posted February 26, 2021 Eric, will this be recorded on YouTube or Zoom so it can be viewed later? I have a conflict at that time that I cannot break. Thanks, LJP Canute, mtaylor and Cathead 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share #572 Posted February 26, 2021 I should have noted, I also posted this in a different thread under Nautical History for broader exposure, just mentioned it here as well to capture those who followed this log. The same question was asked over there, and the answer is "As far as I know, but if not, I'll make it available". Sorry for not clarifying that point up front. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtvd19 Posted February 26, 2021 Share #573 Posted February 26, 2021 Eric - the river project publicity says it will be available later on You Tube. mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share #574 Posted February 26, 2021 Yeah, I'm being dumb, they have a bunch of past talks archived on their YouTube channel. I always watch them live so had never investigated that before. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leclaire Posted March 10, 2021 Share #575 Posted March 10, 2021 Hi Eric, I just got through watching your riverboat presentation. It was fascinating and you did a great job. The moderator kind of summed it up for me at the end when he said that he felt like he had just read an entire book on the subject in just one hour. Unfortunately I was unable to stick around for the Q & A session but I plan on watching this again on the recording on the you tube channel. Many thanks. Bob mbp521, FriedClams, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtvd19 Posted March 10, 2021 Share #576 Posted March 10, 2021 I too watched Eric's program - for the second time after reviewing it for him last week and It was just as interesting tonight. The Q&A session was very good too. Anybody who missed it should check out You Tube. mbp521, Canute, FriedClams and 2 others 5 Quote Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbp521 Posted March 10, 2021 Share #577 Posted March 10, 2021 Eric, Just finished watching the program. Thanks for taking the time for a great presentation. Very informative. Also great job on the Q&A as well. -Brian Cathead, FriedClams and mtaylor 3 Quote Current Builds: Completed Builds: Mississippi River Towboat Caroline N. HMB Endeavor: Artesania Latina USS Constitution - Cross Section: Mamoli Non-Ship Builds: HMS Victory - Cross Section: Corel New Shipyard King of the Mississippi - Steamboat: Artesania Latina Battle Station Section: Panart (Gallery) In Dry-dock Chaperon - 1884 Steamer: Model Shipways USS Constellation: Aretesania Latina USS Cairo - 1862 Ironclad: Scratch Build Flying Fish: Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 10, 2021 Share #578 Posted March 10, 2021 Just finished watching your presentation Eric, thanks for doing it and for the link, I learned a whole bunch of new things about the river boats. A great presentation. Michael Canute, Cathead, FriedClams and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share #579 Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) Thanks, folks! Some extra pressure knowing the NRG is watching. I tried not to get out over my skis in the Q&A as there are some things I don't know as much about. EDIT: I just realized that, in the acknowledgements, I'd meant to specifically thank Kurt and Roger Pellett for reviewing the talk ahead of time and for their constructive feedback. My sincere apologies, I'm so grateful for their help. Edited March 10, 2021 by Cathead Canute, mbp521, FriedClams and 2 others 5 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtvd19 Posted March 10, 2021 Share #580 Posted March 10, 2021 Eric, your plug for the NRG and MSW was appreciated and you thanked me last week. mtaylor, Cathead, Roger Pellett and 1 other 4 Quote Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share #581 Posted March 10, 2021 OK, the talk is up on YouTube: The actual talk is about an hour, there's some dead-time lead-in, followed by a long Q&A and a video tour of the models at the end. mtaylor, wefalck, KeithAug and 4 others 5 2 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted March 10, 2021 Share #582 Posted March 10, 2021 Watched the whole presentation this evening. Very good and eloquent. Good to see another geologist at work here and putting the technological development into its socio-economic, cultural, resource geology and ecological context. Really appreciated it. FriedClams, leclaire, Cathead and 1 other 4 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 11, 2021 Share #583 Posted March 11, 2021 Looks to be fascinating, Eric. I've just started watching it and will do the whole thing in the next day or so as time permits. Canute, FriedClams and Cathead 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriedClams Posted March 12, 2021 Share #584 Posted March 12, 2021 I watched the entirety of your presentation last night Eric and thoroughly enjoyed it. A nice overview of the subject and does what all successful lectures/talks do in that it stimulates the desire to learn more. Your passion for the topic is palpable and the organization and pace of your presentation I thought was just excellent. I also appreciate that you did not tip-toe around the catastrophic damage caused to the native tribes and environment by this activity. I have attended more than one historical presentation where the speaker has cherry-picked information to give less than a complete account on the subject. Great talk. Thanks for sharing your presentation with us here on the MSW forum. Gary Cathead, mtaylor and leclaire 3 Quote Current Build Pelican Eastern-Rig Dragger Completed Scratch Builds Rangeley Guide Boat New England Stonington Dragger 1940 Auto Repair Shop Mack FK Shadowbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windships Posted March 15, 2021 Share #585 Posted March 15, 2021 Superb model. Thanks for posting all your work. John Earl sent me to you. We recently discovered that my g/g/grandfather Jonathan (John) Biddle of Valley City, Illinois once owned and operated--on the Illinois River--the steam sternwheeler ferry named Z. Biddle after his father, Zachariah. To keep this short, she had an Official Number so I got her primary dimensions (of the hull alone) and was able to reconstruct her complete ownership history. But so far, no written description, sketch, drawings or photographs. She was active from about September 1878 until July 1892 when her license was surrendered with the indication that she had been wrecked and too expensive to repair. I think she may have been a casualty of a freak cyclone which destroyed other boats on the Illinois on 12 July 1892, with great loss of life. Should I locate enough reliable data, I might build a model. Your log will be enormously helpful. Never having tackled a steamboat before, I am amazed at their complexity. She is in Wray's Packet Directory. NARA DC provided her official documentation, but there may be more at NARA Kansas City. mtaylor, Canute and Cathead 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share #586 Posted March 16, 2021 Great story! That'd be a really neat model if you were able to decide on some parameters. Sadly, so many of these boats were pretty obscure and faded without a trace. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windships Posted March 16, 2021 Share #587 Posted March 16, 2021 Thanks for you note Eric. It is remarkable to me that this ferry, which was essential in the lives of so many people in that community has become essentially invisible. Hoping that microfilm copies of a handful of local newspapers from that time may contain what we are seeking. Stay tuned! mbp521, mtaylor, Cathead and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtvd19 Posted May 16, 2021 Share #588 Posted May 16, 2021 I want to let everybody know that this model earned a SILVER award at the WI Maritime Museum's 44th Annual contest (virtual this year) last night. It was entered in the Scratch Built category. Congratulations to Eric. jmiba, ccoyle, FriedClams and 8 others 9 2 Quote Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share #589 Posted May 16, 2021 Thanks for posting that, Kurt. I was pretty shocked; I had settled in on the couch to watch the program with no expectation whatsoever of needing to have my camera or mic on, and had to scramble when that came up! I couldn't have gotten anywhere on this project without the support and mentorship of so many people here. RichardG, leclaire, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moab Posted May 16, 2021 Share #590 Posted May 16, 2021 Eric; congratulations on the award and the Spectacular model...Moab Cathead, Canute, mbp521 and 2 others 5 Quote Completed Builds: Virginia Armed Sloop...Model Shipways Ranger...Corel Louise Steam Launch...Constructo Hansa Kogge...Dusek Yankee Hero...BlueJacket Spray...BlueJacket 26’ Long Boat...Model Shipways Under Construction: Emma C. Berry...Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted May 16, 2021 Share #591 Posted May 16, 2021 Congratulations, Eric. Your model deserved that award. mbp521, Canute, FriedClams and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbp521 Posted May 16, 2021 Share #592 Posted May 16, 2021 Well deserved award Eric. Congratulations. -Brian Cathead, FriedClams, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Current Builds: Completed Builds: Mississippi River Towboat Caroline N. HMB Endeavor: Artesania Latina USS Constitution - Cross Section: Mamoli Non-Ship Builds: HMS Victory - Cross Section: Corel New Shipyard King of the Mississippi - Steamboat: Artesania Latina Battle Station Section: Panart (Gallery) In Dry-dock Chaperon - 1884 Steamer: Model Shipways USS Constellation: Aretesania Latina USS Cairo - 1862 Ironclad: Scratch Build Flying Fish: Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leclaire Posted May 16, 2021 Share #593 Posted May 16, 2021 Very happy for you, Eric. All the thought, research, hard work, and attention to detail you put into the Arabia certainly paid off. In addition, along the way you provided an entertaining education not only on scratch building but the history of steamboats in general. I know I certainly came away the better for following your build log. Bob mbp521, Canute, FriedClams and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted May 17, 2021 Share #594 Posted May 17, 2021 Well done, Eric. Congratulations. Cathead and FriedClams 2 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbp521 Posted July 3, 2021 Share #595 Posted July 3, 2021 Eric, Just saw that your workbench with your Arabia build made this month’s Bluejacket Newsletter. Way to go! -Brian FriedClams, mtaylor, Canute and 2 others 4 1 Quote Current Builds: Completed Builds: Mississippi River Towboat Caroline N. HMB Endeavor: Artesania Latina USS Constitution - Cross Section: Mamoli Non-Ship Builds: HMS Victory - Cross Section: Corel New Shipyard King of the Mississippi - Steamboat: Artesania Latina Battle Station Section: Panart (Gallery) In Dry-dock Chaperon - 1884 Steamer: Model Shipways USS Constellation: Aretesania Latina USS Cairo - 1862 Ironclad: Scratch Build Flying Fish: Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted July 3, 2021 Author Share #596 Posted July 3, 2021 Heh, thanks. As you can tell, I submitted that a long time ago, but he's got so many submissions it took this long to make it through the queue! Canute, mtaylor and FriedClams 3 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organ tech Posted August 2, 2021 Share #597 Posted August 2, 2021 Another wonderful build!! Great job. Canute, mtaylor and Cathead 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcochran Posted August 9, 2022 Share #598 Posted August 9, 2022 I love your Arabia. I'm pausing my build to learn more from you. I have been having pain from my surgery and the medication makes me too drowsy to work on my boat. So I'm ready your log. Cathead, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windships Posted August 9, 2022 Share #599 Posted August 9, 2022 Very Happy for You Eric!! Truly an inspiration! What's' next? Randy Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share #600 Posted August 9, 2022 3 hours ago, bcochran said: I'm pausing my build to learn more from you Thanks! Hope you enjoy it, the project was fascinating and fun. You'll probably enjoy the video lecture linked toward the end of this log, too, though it won't apply directly to your Robert E. Lee project as it focuses on the somewhat different Missouri River boats. Best wishes for surgery recovery, I've been there and it's no fun. 1 hour ago, Windships said: What's' next? This project actually wrapped up a couple years ago, though it doesn't seem like it. Since then I've completed a few others, including a Viking longship and several NRG learning projects (see links in my signature) but I haven't taken on anything in a while due to a complicated situation including wrist injury/surgery, extensive other commitments in my non-modeling life, and the temporary loss of my workshop to (currently delayed) remodeling projects. If/when I get back to building, I'm considering scratchbuilding the JR Wells, a neat little steamboat that operated on Missouri's Osage River; some photos and info are available here. mtaylor, Canute and Jack12477 3 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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