cog Posted May 23, 2018 Share #151 Posted May 23, 2018 Not even a sea plane Mr Bunny!!! RGL, Old Collingwood, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted May 24, 2018 Share #152 Posted May 24, 2018 nice ! the balance of the two M's........modeling and matrimony Canute, cog, RGL and 4 others 7 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted May 24, 2018 Share #153 Posted May 24, 2018 Quite the picture and obviously a happy time. Congratulations for 45 years. I don't even think I even have a picture that old! Do you still have the plane too? popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood, RGL and 5 others 8 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share #154 Posted May 25, 2018 The Ships paravanes and the kits paravanes are somewhat different. The little blobs of plastic have nothing on what is available commercially for IJN Ships. The winch is a very fragile blob of plastic and some PE which looks nothing like the real thing. popeye the sailor, Canute, Piet and 3 others 6 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share #155 Posted May 25, 2018 So the plans show (in red) the winches, the paravane depressor, the steam winches for the paravane cables, and the after or secondary ships wheel. I've added a photo of what the real thing looks like and what I may have ordered to replace the kit stuff. BANYAN, CDW, Piet and 7 others 10 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted May 25, 2018 Share #156 Posted May 25, 2018 The PE looks so much better, however the paravane itself stays pretty poor ... not like e.g. Yamato's ... so it remains a poor compromise ... John Allen, Canute, lmagna and 4 others 7 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share #157 Posted May 25, 2018 Watch this space.... lmagna, Canute, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted May 25, 2018 Share #158 Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) I'm watchin' ... still watchin' ... still watchin' ... Edited May 25, 2018 by cog lmagna, Canute, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share #159 Posted May 25, 2018 I’m on nightshift, then it has to arrive, I have to build it. The pressure!! popeye the sailor, lmagna, DaveRow and 4 others 7 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted May 25, 2018 Share #160 Posted May 25, 2018 Unbearable ... I empathise with you ... almost lmagna, Piet, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted May 25, 2018 Share #161 Posted May 25, 2018 you two are sett'in a pretty high bar..........still haven't gotten the kit yet. mtaylor, John Allen, Piet and 3 others 6 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted May 25, 2018 Share #162 Posted May 25, 2018 Hmmmmmm...as ... well, Denis, patience is a virtue lmagna, mtaylor, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted May 25, 2018 Share #163 Posted May 25, 2018 RGL That stern is possibly the busiest section of deck I have ever seen in any ship, let alone one this small, (In real life) Compared with an American 310' Four stacker it is standing room only. I can't see that it was a happy place in anything but perfect weather! Did they retain the dual role of mine sweeping and depth charges into the war? Canute, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share #164 Posted May 25, 2018 No idea, it had to cover everything I imagine Piet, lmagna, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted May 25, 2018 Share #165 Posted May 25, 2018 The reason I asked was that most ships used in escort duty in WWII ended up with Massive racks of depth charges on the stern and little else. Mine sweeping was not often considered as part of their job and they didn't bother carrying equipment for it. In WWI it was different in that there were so many mines places all over the Atlantic ocean that you almost couldn't get anywhere without running into a mine field that had been planted by one side or another. It would be interesting to see if pictures taken in the mid war or late war supported this or not. mtaylor, Piet, src and 4 others 7 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share #166 Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) The plans are pretty much 1917, and England handed her to Australia in the 1930’s where she then went through various refits during ww2. If you open the drawing on page 1 it will have the date. Edited May 25, 2018 by RGL John Allen, lmagna, Canute and 5 others 8 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted May 27, 2018 Share #167 Posted May 27, 2018 Have been mixing potions ... The paint for Gunze stone-red-ish is not available in Tamiya, neither Vallejo, so I'm trying to get it right. Unfortunately I started out with the wrong base colour: Tamiya Hull-red, which is a dark brownish colour (XF-9) - I certainly won't be using that one on Musashi(!!!) - consequently I had to add to much of the other colours. So mixture turned out to be Hull Red, Flat red, Flat Yellow (XF-9, XF-7, XF-3) Don't ask ratios, for I mix by eye, as I add spices to my food ... (Talking of food Lou, that apricot ice cream ... yummy!!) Yesterday I got the deck with the main bridge structure primed as well as the deck where most of the interesting parts are mounted, like funnels, torpedo tubes, etc. Today, I hope to get the colour further "refined" so I can enrich those two decks and the gun platforms ... I'm still in doubt of the light grey for the hull and standing structures, as the Tamiya (XF-19) is of a darker shade compared to the Gunze ... decisions, decisions, decisions ... on the other hand, how true are the colours printed on a piece of paper RGL, Piet, Canute and 6 others 9 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted May 27, 2018 Author Share #168 Posted May 27, 2018 Hmm, not even thinking about colours yet, playingaround with the binnacles and telegraphs, scratch built a sepahamore and jury rigged a range finder. I found a new new photo for reference which shows me I need to rebuild the mast mast and add a few bitts on the stern. CDW, mtaylor, BenF89 and 5 others 8 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted May 27, 2018 Share #169 Posted May 27, 2018 (edited) I found I'd better get the decks painted before mounting anything else on it. When I look at the forard bridge, I've got myself into trouble painting the structure an' deck. I'll be having a ball getting the verticals painted now the horizontal is done <sigh> should have built it up per "story" Don't make the same mistake mate. It is as good as impossible to mask ... Need some minor touch ups. I think I prefer this colour over the orange brownish from the drawing, although in reality it differs only slightly Next: Touch ups, and colouring the stern, and focsle. After that, I'll start to worry what will be added, and what needs to change ... I look anxious the book to be delivered (postal services ... still waitin', like for me co-builder's promise a few posts back ...) Edited May 27, 2018 by cog Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor, BANYAN and 12 others 15 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted May 27, 2018 Author Share #170 Posted May 27, 2018 I’m not sure what you meant about the horizontals and verticals? Piet, popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted May 27, 2018 Share #171 Posted May 27, 2018 deck versus walls , masts, funnels etc popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted May 27, 2018 Share #172 Posted May 27, 2018 looking very nice Carl CaptainSteve, cog, Piet and 2 others 5 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted May 28, 2018 Share #173 Posted May 28, 2018 Thank you all for the likes, much appreciated Thank you Denis. Got that kit yet? At least you can avoid some of our mistakes - if not all ... Piet, lmagna, CDW and 5 others 8 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted May 28, 2018 Share #174 Posted May 28, 2018 I changed my objective from 18 - 200 mm to a macro 0.3m. Got some more touch ups to do ... The painting of the forard and rear gun platforms I took from the drawing on page one of this build log, you can see the distinct differences ... One never gets the proper colour across on a digital image when you want to compare e.g. print with the "real" thing mtaylor, RGL, hexnut and 12 others 15 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted May 28, 2018 Share #175 Posted May 28, 2018 looking really good carl.....nice paint work is there still a gap across the fore deck seam? haven't got the kit yet, although the admiral told me that she ordered the PE kit. I'm sure some work can be done on the model before it arrives.......Eduards is located in the Czech Republic, so it might take some time to get to me. Canute, Piet, CDW and 1 other 4 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted May 28, 2018 Share #176 Posted May 28, 2018 (edited) Thanks Denis. There is still a gap, as it hasn't been glued to the hull yet As is the other one. Tonight I'll try to have the upper hull painted light grey. After that I can "install" the decks permanently, and you shouldn't be worried you might trip over that gap, or fall into it ... Yes you can prepare. You might start with building up the hull, and the other structures and - as I wrote earlier - paint them whilst you build them. Which structures depend largely on what you want to replace by, either PE or bashing. You got some old remains of wooden/plastic kits hanging around which may have replacement parts, better suited to your "needs". You can also prepare your paint mixtures, e.g. I mixed the brownish deck colour as described above, and the black I concoted from Vallejo black (7 drops) with olive drab (3 drops), takes the edge off the black. The red of the hull was Vallejo fire red and white. Can't recall the ratios ... Yupz getting old The bollards are truely horrendous. If possible, consider buying some large 1/700 scale ones to replace them. Souldn't be expensive at all. There are enough on your side of the pond. Study the drawing Greg supplied in one of his first postings. Have another look at what we did and improve on us You love to walk your own road ... here is your chance to do that in a slightly different way ... (Say hello to your lovely admiral, and give Gibs a pat) Edited May 28, 2018 by cog CDW, Piet, BANYAN and 7 others 10 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share #177 Posted May 28, 2018 I always drill out the port holes as I find they fill up with paint otherwise. You can build the deck housings and dry fit them to the deck to ensure they fit flush. I take an am opposite approach to Carl in that I like to fit the deck first as I think it gives a stable hull and I can fix any gaps before priming. It also saves a lot of handling afterwards. I also like to set up the support stand by drilling through the hull. If you’re not using a kit specific PE set you’re only looking to fit gaps and replace pieces. Destroyers are soo much smaller than battleships. Piet, cog, BenF89 and 6 others 9 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share #178 Posted May 29, 2018 I’m awaiting the new paravane cranes and some carley floats, so I bit the bullet and rebuilt the main mast as the real thing is different to the plans. I also added some fairleads to the stern which are required for the paravane anyways. BenF89, hexnut, mtaylor and 7 others 10 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share #179 Posted May 29, 2018 Looking at the torpedo davits the kit ones were modified again, I just wasn’t happy with a full PE replacement Canute, hexnut, popeye the sailor and 9 others 12 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share #180 Posted May 29, 2018 And the paint cue mtaylor, CDW, CaptainSteve and 12 others 15 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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