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HMS Banterer 1807 by Lami - 1:30 - RADIO - Finished


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Lami,

 

Just came across your build log and she really is stunning!  Like Michael Mott (post 17) I cannot see any pictures on the 1st page of this log & I'd love to see some more detailed pictures of her, especially how you've designed the running rigging and set up the sail servos/winches. Also, how many rc channels are you using to control her?

 

From your most recent pictures she certainly appears to sail well even if she is a little 'light' at the moment.  I've always thought that scale sailing models always look so much better without the addition of an external fin & bulb (or just additional ballast bolted to the underside of the keel). Despite that, it may be worth reading up on the differences and applications of 'centre of effort' for the sail plan, 'centre of lateral resistance & gravity' for the hull, centre of bouyancy and most importantly something called the 'metacentric heights'. I only mention these as nearly every square rigged rc ship that I've seen (predominantly on youtube) has needed the fitting of additional external ballast to enable them to be used in anything much above a couple of knots of wind.  All this only becomes important owing to our ability to produce wonderful scaled models of fabulous vessels but our inability to scale environmental factors like wind!!

 

I look forward to seeing more of your incredible model sailing the high seas!!

 

Regards,

 

Row

1:28 Scale J class yacht 'Enterprise' (R/C)

Build log currently at: http://www.rcsailing.net/forum1/showthread.php?6264-1-28-J-Class-Enterprise-build-log

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There are some additional points I would like to make in regard of the sailing stability of models. The sail area is only reduced in square but the hull volume is reduced by cubic based on the scale, so for each sailing model the sail area will always be much greater in comparison the the hull volume as it was with the original. 

This males it very likely that a below kneel ballst is required.

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I'm imagining seeing my Macedonian in these pictures.  ;)

Jerry Todd

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"HMS Banterer" on the lake,

 

very impressive pictures Lami, a wonderful model under sail....

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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Hi Lami,

 

I'm a volunteer researcher with the Chatham Dockyard Historical Trust in England. I've just completed a short biography of the captain of Banterer, Alexander Shippard, and wonder if you'd be prepared to let me use one of your photos as an illustration. If so, can you let me know how you'd like to be acknowledged?

I'd also be interested to know where you managed to get design information on the original ship - I've not been able to find anything!

Regards,

David

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Hello David,

There are plans for Banterer in the National Maritime Museum, collections ADBB0595, ADRB0126 and ADFB0016.

Regards,

Bruce

 

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A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin

current builds:

HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style

Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild 

French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold

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David, quite right, sorry about that.

These are for Banterer class craft of the right era although not built at South Shields: 

 

J4309, J4307, J4305 and J4310.

 

Bruce 

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A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin

current builds:

HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style

Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild 

French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold

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… and here is a plan of CYANE, another sister ship, as she was when captured.

 

 

 

czB6BVB  CYANE.jpg

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A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin

current builds:

HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style

Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild 

French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold

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Hello David, I found it on the Games Lab Forum, sadly without a source.

 

https://forum.game-labs.net/topic/19749-proposed-british-kickstarter-pack-with-plans/?tab=comments#comment-393240

 

It is near the beginning of the long thread described as '18 Guns Ship'.

Regards,

Bruce

 

 

 

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A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin

current builds:

HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style

Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild 

French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold

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