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Union brigantine by Warnerade - FINISHED - Constructo - 1/100

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I recently finished a ship in a bottle (build found on here) and was hooked instantly, as soon as I finished it I made a trip to a local hobby story and picked up another wooden build, this one being a bit more involved. I am just starting out so I figured I was better off getting a kit with the hull already shaped. It’s going slow so far, but I’m loving the process. So far the only problems I’ve had with the kit has been because of own lack of experience, but everything seems to fit together perfectly and the directions tell you everything they need to. 

 

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This is a kind of basic but fun kit that lends itself to all kinds of fun stuff. I have one as well that someday I will probably get back to just because it is so fun and relatively undemanding.

 

It will be interesting to see what you do with yours. Good start so far.:D

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Did you plan to plank it?  Since you already started to paint it, probably not....however....

 

When I built the solid hull SULTANA I decided to plank above the wale and just paint below.  It turned out great.  Wale=black and above the wale=natural wood.

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Speaking of the Wales, any tips on securing them? I have the pieces bent, but I am unsure how to go about getting them on the . The directions say to use nails and glue but I was attempting to avoid the use of nails for a cleaner look. I originally thought I would start with the bow and work my way to the stern but I cannot picture how to clamp it to get started. 

 

No I am not planning on planking anything at this time. I’m getting pretty into the build (this is my first “large” wooden model, and only my third model I’ve worked on thus far) and would like to do a more involved build in the future but for now I had a lot to learn before I attempt planking. I’m also a medical resident so my time is fairly limited, I wanted something I could work on in my free time but could easily put on hold if needed.

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Others may have better ideas, but with my model of the Union I secured the wales to the hull with very thin CA applied carefully and allowed to soak under the wale before moving on to the next section. CA is not the preferred glue here on MSW but it worked pretty well for me

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I am almost ready to start putting the deck together. I was considering putting a coat over the entire body before I begin placing the pieces on it. Does anyone have any suggestions of what to use? I have a spray on clear coat that I used for the base of a previous model that I was planning on using but I figured I’d crowd source for other ideas 

 

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On 8/20/2018 at 1:30 PM, lmagna said:

Others may have better ideas, but with my model of the Union I secured the wales to the hull with very thin CA applied carefully and allowed to soak under the wale before moving on to the next section. CA is not the preferred glue here on MSW but it worked pretty well for me

dumb question, but what is CA? I have typical multi-surface wood glue and medium strength super glue. I ended up going with the super glue and holding tight with my fingers to start with in order to get the wales in place, then used the wood glue once I reached where I was able to clamp.

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Almost ready to start rigging, just gotta touch up paint in a few areas and that’s it. Every step of the way I am learning something new, I cannot wait to start the next build knowing what I know now (which still isn’t much)

 

For anyone actually reading this, I’ve never rigged anything before and the instructions more or less just say say “follow the picture” and I more or less have no idea what I’m doing..I purchased a book “the art of riggin” designed for models. Is anyone familiar with this book? Or have any ideas as to where I should look when/if I need direction?

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As you are building a Brigantine this book may help you.

https://www.amazon.com/Rigging-Period-Models-Step-Step/dp/1557509700

It's not very expensive and is relatively simple. 

 

Others here may have better books but I have this one and found it informative.

 

By the way great progress on your build, it's looking pretty good.

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Here is another way you could possibly go about rigging your ship.

 

http://soubory.radekshipmodels.cz/plany/ConstitutionA.pdf

 

If you go down to the rigging pages you can take the foremast and mizzen mast rigging instructions and use as much as you want to rig your ship. They are kind of step-by-step so they should be fairly easy to follow.

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Thank you! I ordered that book 3 weeks ago and I haven’t received it yet, I tried calling the store and no one answered so I googled it and apparently they closed permanently but the website is still active. Thankfully they didn’t actually charge me. 

 

Edit: I purchased this book, and will probably end up using the PDF for guidance as well. 

 

Much appreciated. 

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Any ideas for tying the main topgallant stay (I think that’s tight)? I have the main and main topmast done but there was something convenient to loop around. The picture in the directions and in a rigging book that I purchased aren’t the best...do I jut tie a loop around it and put a dab of CA so it doesn’t fall? In the attached picture of the boat directions it’s the one marked with a 3. 5CDD901A-FCAE-42E7-989E-122BF01CBB2B.thumb.jpeg.edbf73f8bc5b7961fd3a17b924fd4df6.jpeg

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The rigging is coming along slowly but surely. I purchased 2 books and have been watching some YouTube videos. Basically learning as I go and understanding what I should and should not do when I start my next build. Disregard the extra drillhole, haha3827FCC1-B9FE-4811-AC1D-71175F680776.thumb.jpeg.22d160de9ee9ac9a3ff56d8abd08ad34.jpeg

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Nice to see your update, It is really coming right along.

You should be able to fill in your "Extra" hole with a cut off toothpick or something and when all is done it will be almost invisible to anyone, (Except for those of us you showed it to!) 

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7 minutes ago, lmagna said:

Nice to see your update, It is really coming right along.

You should be able to fill in your "Extra" hole with a cut off toothpick or something and when all is done it will be almost invisible to anyone, (Except for those of us you showed it to!) 

progress is going to slow down a little, work is starting to pick up a little and I have a feeling the running rigging is going to be very challenging for my first time through, so be prepared for numerous questions to be asked haha. I was thinking the same thing about the toothpick, or possibly using filler...I have plenty of both for this exact reason.

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Well, I put the finishing touches on her tonight. Overall this went much faster than I was anticipating. which is great because tomorrow I am making a trip home and giving it to my parents for them to display in their house in Florida and they're leaving this weekend. I initially didn't think I would make the deadline. It is definitely not the most historically accurate ship on this site, and I cut a few corners in order to finish it in time. Thankfully my parents aren't savvy with this stuff so they'll never know. However, I did pick up a few books during the build and found out how to do things properly for the next one, some of the things required just doing it in order to see why it was "supposed" to be done the other way. 

 

I definitely need to work on the sails more for the next one. This kit just came with the design of them on a large sheet that required cutting and sewing. It has been a while since I sewed but I thought I did a decent job until I put them on. The picture on the box makes it look like the black lines are sewn in but after I started putting them on I started to think they were drawn on with pen or pencil. I could not get the ripples out of them no matter what I did. Good thing my next kit comes with pre-sewn sails....or I may just leave them off. Have not decided yet.

 

I will be starting another one here very shortly and I'm beyond excited for it. I am a first year resident applying to surgical residencies this year, and this all started with the purchase of a model car to assemble after graduation to pass the time and keep my dexterity for in the OR has definitely turned into something I really enjoy.

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VERY nicely done and in record time. I don't think I have EVER seen anyone finish this model, (Including myself) congratulations on a very nice build.

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Well with the incredibly brief instructions and poor rigging diagram that I’m convinced is wrong in a few spots it’s no surprise people don’t finish his kit haha. I was also disappointed in the amount of rigging line provided. I ran out of both colors 3/4 through rigging and I feel I was being pretty conservative with it. Ah well. 

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I don't know how I missed this build log up till now. You've done a very good job with this. It's really interesting to see you taking on what is really a pretty steep learning curve,

 

What I particularly liked was that rather than do what so many newbies do and try to build something far too complicated and difficult (usually HMS Victory!) which normally ends in failure and disappointment, you took on something simple enough but with enough challenges, to allow you to methodically carry it all through, picking up skills and knowledge as you go, resulting in an impressive final product. The next and subsequent models will be better still, and you'll keep on amassing skills and experience till you'll be the guy whose builds people refer others to as an example of what to do.

 

Welcome to a fascinating (and addictive) hobby!

 

Steven

 

 

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On 10/11/2018 at 9:47 AM, Warnerade said:

Well with the incredibly brief instructions and poor rigging diagram that I’m convinced is wrong in a few spots it’s no surprise people don’t finish his kit haha. I was also disappointed in the amount of rigging line provided. I ran out of both colors 3/4 through rigging and I feel I was being pretty conservative with it. Ah well. 

Only some weeks ago I encountered your very nice post about building the Union of Constructo. I started with the same kit about 6 years ago and due to some life events it took quite a while. After completing the model, I posted a summary with pictures on the site of the Dutch Modeling association NVM (type "constructo union modelbouwforum nvm" in a browser and you will find it). Though I have similar experiences as you with respect to the information of the kit, I was happy with the service of Constructo. After having ran out of rigging line like you did, they sent additional rigging line for free.

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I was unable to figure out who to contact for more rigging line, I am glad they were okay with sending more though. I always like hearing about companies that stand behind their product. I’m glad you were able to finish your kit. Feel free to post some pictures here if you want. After working on a much more involved model, looking back I enjoy the simplicity of the solid hull/smaller kit and will probably do another one similar to this one day. Cheers. 

 

Also, now that I have seen other kits, I am starting to think the instructions and diagram wasn’t as bad as I originally thought haha

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Thank you for your reply. I looked up your current build, the San Francisco II, and that looks great. I am planning another model with a planked hull like you are working on now. Maybe in the end I will have the same impression as you :-).

During the build of the Union I got several suggestions of somebody who was building the Scotland (Corel) and who gave me the instructions of the Scotland when he had finished his build. As written on the forum of the Dutch Modeling Association, those instructions gave some inspiration on how to change little things on the Union. I have posted some pictures, two of the final result, and the others of some things I changed. More pictures can be found on the Dutch forum.

- Wales on the back of the ship

- Sewed sails (like you) with diluted glue on the borders in order not to need to fold them

- Sheerpoles (not on scale ... 🙂)

- Additional blocks (made from material that was left over) with ropes for the outer jib sail and the fore topmast staysail (to give the impression that one can hoist them from the deck; these are present on the Scotland)

- Reef lines on the sails

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Your sails (along with the rest of the ship) look phenomenal. I’ll admit, I bought a sewing machine just for the sails and learned to sew as the sails progressed. Not my best work. I’ll definitely look into the information on the Dutch sites if I ever decide to make another one. Thank you

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Thank you for the compliment. My wife learned me how to use our very old sewing machine (completely mechanical) and the friend who borrowed me his manual of the Scotland told me how he made the sails. When I posted the story on the Dutch modeling site of the NVM, one person mentioned that most sails are made by folding the border and that he had not yet seen the method that my friend used. In the book Ship Modeling Simplified of Frank Mastini is written about using diluted glue but he seems also to fold the borders. I am not sure how my friend got the idea to simply use only diluted glue and then cut through the dried glue. But it was funny to see that it is not common practice (for the rest, I am all the time impressed by how others build much more complicated models :-).

I still need to learn how to do the planking, so I think I will sometimes look on your log of the San Francisco. As said it looks great and luckily you could transport it very well by car to a new place.

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