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Thanks. Alistair, the kink is noticable, but only from above, so the rails should sort it out as well as the inner planking. Anyway I did not give much thought about the stern piece, cause I simply needed it in place to protect the captain's cabin. So that is something that only future me will have to deal with.

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Nice planking there, Vitus.  I'm with Alistair:  the tapering looks really good, giving the deck a tidy appearance.

 

Cheers,

 

Martin

Current Build:  HMS FLY 1776

 

Previous Builds:  Rattlesnake 1781

                        Prince de Neufchatel

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Hello everyone, after a few moments (months) pause I've finished planking the forecastle, placed the front pair of sixpounders and found a place for the stove. Looks like the cook will have a hard time working under the beam, but the was no way around. At least I tapered it a bit. 

 

Now it is time for treenails, yay!

 

 

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1st build - HMS Race Horse (Sergal)

Current build - HMS Fly (Victory/Amati)

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Nice planking on all 3 decks Vitus,

 

your "HMS Fly" is coming on very well...

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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Very nice update Vitus. Superb deck planking - you sure beat me for symmetry - it looks spot on.

 

Have a look at my log for your breast beam plank question. It strikes me that the ends of the planks need to butt to a perpendicular plank. The exposed end grain of the planks would absorb moisture something bad if not for this.

 

P.S. Just had a look back through your log - there are lots of missing pictures. Could you re-load them for us?

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Cheers

Alistair

 

Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/

Previous Build  - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways

 

Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)

 

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Thanks Alistair. I'll see what I can do about the pictures. Now I'm struggling with the cap rails. The little bent pieces are made of tanganyika. It still was not easy to do, but it was possible with a bit of patience. Now I'm thinking about the top of the transome and what to do with it. Is there also supposed to be a cap rail?

 

 

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1st build - HMS Race Horse (Sergal)

Current build - HMS Fly (Victory/Amati)

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beautiful cap rail work Vitus,

 

also all other work clean and neat, Looks great

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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That's an impressive revision on the forecastle planking -- both in terms of the work and that you took the time to do over what didn't satisfy you.

 

Cheers,

 

Martin

Current Build:  HMS FLY 1776

 

Previous Builds:  Rattlesnake 1781

                        Prince de Neufchatel

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Thanks, I know I would regret it so there was no other way than doing it again. Now the capstain. 

 

The kit has a bit simplified version so I created it to correspond to the TFFM plans. The reinforcing ring is made of copper sheet. 

 

 

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1st build - HMS Race Horse (Sergal)

Current build - HMS Fly (Victory/Amati)

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Today I've created the top for aft companion using 1 mm thick tanganyika. The little windows were the hardest, but the wood held together, so my first go was successful one. 

 

Looks like I will have to mend it a bit to make it flush with the gratings.

 

 

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1st build - HMS Race Horse (Sergal)

Current build - HMS Fly (Victory/Amati)

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Very nice work on the cap rails (you have sailed past me on those but I've been away...) and fittings. I couldn't pull off the side windows on the skylight - well done - and the other difference is I set my piece within, rather than on top of, the coaming which makes it smaller and lower.

Cheers

Alistair

 

Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/

Previous Build  - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways

 

Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)

 

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Thanks, Alistair. I decided to copy Dan's companion top from his superb Vulture and that is a bit larger than yours. If it were smaller, I think I would also have a very hard time creating the side windows. Still, it is a bit oversized and rather close to the mizzen mast due to one silly mistake of mine, so I will probably have to take it apart and scale it down somehow. Yippee

1st build - HMS Race Horse (Sergal)

Current build - HMS Fly (Victory/Amati)

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Looks like I have the same problem as you, Alistair. I was not aware that the opening for gratings in the gun deck and opening for stairs in the quarterdeck overlap each other, so now it is not possible to place the stair right. Well now it's too late to do something about it. Guess the next build will be from a scratch, then I will be able to make just my own mistakes :)

 

 

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Anyway I've rebuilt the companion top to make it narrower and its base was tapered. 

 

 

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Current build - HMS Fly (Victory/Amati)

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That is a terrific companionway, Vitus.  The window/lights look to be exactly right.  Did you just cut those out with an exacto?

 

Cheers,

 

Martin

Current Build:  HMS FLY 1776

 

Previous Builds:  Rattlesnake 1781

                        Prince de Neufchatel

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Thanks Martin. I made a long strip of windows using computer and printed it at the right scale. Then I glued two sides of the companionway together using just a little bit of PVA and a strip of five or four windows on them. Then I drilled a small hole with a .6mm bit in each corner of each window, cut them out with a very sharp exacto and finished them with a fine file.

 

I would also recommend gluing a piece of paper on the other side of the plank to strenghten it, because it tends to break during the process. It is also good to apply a coat of varnish first to seal the fiber.

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Current build - HMS Fly (Victory/Amati)

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Well that is quite easy :)  For example in Photoshop create a new picture with the same ratio as the piece. So if the piece measures 18 x 5 mm, you can create a picture of 900 x 250 pixels. Then draw the windows or anything else - in this case just black rectangulars and fiddle with them to put them in right position. It is also good to make a frame around the whole picture (you'll know where to cut it). The last step is to print it out using scaled print size choosing the actual dimensions of the wooden piece for the whole picture, so in this case 18 x 5 mm again. The printer will provide you with a template of just the right size. 

 

What I did looked something like this

 

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Current build - HMS Fly (Victory/Amati)

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I felt a bit irritated about the stairs, so I finally decided to make a ropewalk. It is a simple jig with cogwheels and the one in the center can be attached to a motor. I had no luck making it work in horizontal position so I tried putting it vertically, which works just fine, but I've only tried it once that way. What I'll need is a better motor that can work in both directions. 

 

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Result of the first successful attempt

 

 

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Now I'm trying to improve the head and since the parts from the kit are either unfit or missing, most of them were made from scratch. Still, the head is not as it should be, but it will do. 

 

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Very, very nice Vitus. I'm not looking forward to these parts and that is an admirable lead.

Cheers

Alistair

 

Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/

Previous Build  - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways

 

Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)

 

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