Jump to content

Schooner Germania (Nova) by KeithAug - FINISHED - Scale 1:36 - 1908 / 2011


Recommended Posts

Eberhard - it was etched - from my bits bin. I will have to make a couple of hand wheels in the near future for the anchor capstan brake as I don't have anything the right size / shape.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Lovely work as usual Keith, the deck looks awesome

The clerk of the cheque's yacht of sheerness

Current build HMS Sirius (1797) 1:48 scratch POF from NMM plans

HMS Winchelsea by chuck 1:48

Cutter cheerful by chuck 1:48

Previous builds-

Elidir - Thames steam barge

Cutty Sark-Billings boats

Wasa - billings boats

Among others 😁

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I go away for a couple of days and boy what a surprise - lovely detail as usual Keith.  I am sure even the owner would be hard pressed to differentiate between the real thing and your model when looking at photos.

 

A feast for the eyes.

 

cheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank you for the comments Paul, Druxey, Richard and Pat. Also thanks for all the likes.

 

I am continuing working on the foredeck specifically I am moving on to the foremost deckhouse and the anchor winches on either side of it. I am able to get basic sizing data for the deckhouse from the small plans downloaded from the web. I also have good photographic information:-

fullsizeoutput_b09.thumb.jpeg.2591e1bc13c42115b51eb958b3d68825.jpegfullsizeoutput_ef8.jpeg.503ce6d807bb52ba5452422ffca21059.jpegfullsizeoutput_1e7b.jpeg.d9b797dc4c8283b1f873605b29a72c4b.jpegfullsizeoutput_1e7d.jpeg.35592ca9abb74a8876eefa8fcac0f1dc.jpegfullsizeoutput_c19.jpeg.3a3ad02da5a06d86334b203380f9c8f8.jpeg

With this information I was able to create sketch plans.

fullsizeoutput_20b5.thumb.jpeg.f1b2c58b8b1dc9128f628f6b81711817.jpeg

fullsizeoutput_20b3.jpeg.739d97c77a39fa49c84ab68c9562851d.jpeg

I don't have any detail of the inside of the hatch so I am modelling it with the hatch doors closed. I am building the mahogany panelling on a solid oak core. The core was shaped on the mill.

DSC09611.thumb.JPG.5ef7b3a3f8652b83dc36bc8a84b026dd.JPG

DSC09605.thumb.JPG.cf8b7abb0885237c3dfd42fbba1fa03a.JPG

Planks were cut and glued in place at the deck level.

DSC09614.thumb.JPG.21eea088d6ba0e9b2713f6cd8748b0cc.JPG

Then individual panels and frames were cut to clad each side.

DSC09616.thumb.JPG.d1ea8ec3451c7bd22535185cbd2ecdc6.JPG

The panel definition isn't good in this shot - it is actually much better in the flesh and even better when painted with poly on a test piece that I made. The next post will show this.

 

Edited by KeithAug

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, wefalck said:

I will be interested to see, how you will tackle the ventilators ...

Eberhard, that is some way off yet. I have a lot to make and I will make them as a batch. I do have a plan of sorts.

 

2 hours ago, Mark Pearse said:

they look like sail ties at the ready for headsails

Seems the most sensible interpretation Mark - thank you to both of you.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The rear face of the deckhouse has bifold doors - at scale size these are quite small and I won't be making hinges. The 4 door are made as a strip.

DSC09620.thumb.JPG.e56fb849966f84e05621a4c2213d0e1d.JPG

Together with associated panels they were glued on to the core.

DSC09621.thumb.JPG.94d6bb3511f1e538cedd6404ea8adfc0.JPG

The side panels were left over long and were cut back to size on the mill.

DSC09623.thumb.JPG.1d24a07a7b492587348fcc85aacc3610.JPG

DSC09625.thumb.JPG.36f24ce583382d706a69f4f620bdb9cd.JPG

The top plank was glued in place where the panels had been cut back and then a piece of mahogany was turned and slit to form the corner pieces.

DSC09627.thumb.JPG.1628d66de42cc92b00802ceea58a8447.JPG

fullsizeoutput_20b6.thumb.jpeg.9d72305768b04c36f074388f1d2d2f54.jpeg

The top was constructed from 0.1" wide by .060" thick planks separated by .006" card to simulate the caulking.

DSC09639.thumb.JPG.010b476f777005c72d91da088035d9e9.JPG

The hatch top cover was similarly made.

fullsizeoutput_20b7.thumb.jpeg.90424ff9d60096dbd961aa9eaac5f2f9.jpeg

The tape is protecting the front corners that were made from turned brass rod. This reinforcement is included because of the proximity of the anchor chain.

DSC09641.thumb.JPG.310dd5966ee64ffea72a78218bfb96ce.JPG

2 holes were drilled to take the vents.

DSC09643.thumb.JPG.1699830120a3d5edf9aa36faab94e40c.JPG

Mahogany inserts were turned to simulate the plinths on which the vents sit.

DSC09644.thumb.JPG.8fbefa791b33b491f75897abda83fe37.JPG

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, wefalck said:

quartering a round piece of wood to get the radius of the corners right

Eberhard - or alternatively make a scraper of the required radius. The turning method is quite wasteful   as the side of the cutter has to be on the centreline and hence because of the kerf only one of the quadrants is usable.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

For half or quarter round parts, have you considered gluing up pieces, turning them, then dissolving the glue in a suitable solvent? Then there is no kerf to consider or waste.

Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series  http://trafalgar.tv

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Retired guy said:

 at scale size these are quite small and I won't be making hinges

Yes Richard - a 3 inch hinge would be .083" at scale size. I will put a piece of wire in place to simulate the spine of the hinge - but that will be it.

 

55 minutes ago, druxey said:

gluing up pieces, turning them, then dissolving the glue in a suitable solvent?

Druxey - Good idea - I will try it - thank you.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Keith, further to Druxeys comment, there is an old wood turning trick whereby you glue the quadrants together with paper in between then after turning it a sharp knife can be used to separate the pieces. Clearly you loose half the thickness of the paper from each face but that would not be noticeable in most cases.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The turning mentioned by Bedford is called involuted turning. 

 

The idea is to take 4 square and numbered pieces of timber.  Glue a piece of paper between the mating faces, making a larger square. You then turn the required design. Once complete you separate the pieces and glue back together so the design is now on the inside. You can now turn the external design of the item.

Important to go with the grain in order to ensure on invisible join.

Finished builds are 

1/35 Endeavour's Longboat by Artesania Latina

1/36 scratch built Philadelphia Gunboat from the Smithsonian Plans

 

Current build is

Scratch build Boudroit's Monograph for La Jacinthe at 1/36

Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 hours ago, Bedford said:

there is an old wood turning trick whereby you glue the quadrants together with paper in between

Steve - thank you - I will certainly try it.

31 minutes ago, noel_colledge said:

The turning mentioned by Bedford is called involuted turning. 

Noel - thank you for the technical description - much appreciated.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Beautiful work as always Keith!

 

Michael

Current builds  Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8;      Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8;       Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8

Other projects  Pilot Cutter 1:500 ;   Maria, 1:2  Now just a memory    

Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8

Finished projects  A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100  

 

Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I moved on to the anchor winches starting with the design sketches.

fullsizeoutput_20e7.thumb.jpeg.1f7372e94b07b92a3e1b6c7cbcb63614.jpeg

The winches sit on a wooden plinths surmounted by a metal plates. The winches and the pipe feeding the chain to the chain locker are mounted on the plates.

The plates were made from .031" thick brass sheet - accurately drilled for the winch and the chain pipe and then filed to shape using buttons.

DSC09646.thumb.JPG.f4b5e3dffbdd2f83f20a0aeefcef2c98.JPG

DSC09648.thumb.JPG.53b45b5d85e127aebad2e0c76ed64137.JPGDSC09649.thumb.JPG.61a9c4d9fe015b753c58501aff3b22f2.JPG

Once shaped the brass plates were finished with 5000 grit wet and dry paper.

DSC09654.thumb.JPG.7cbce4cfa780460c53b2e45eb619a195.JPG

DSC09655.thumb.JPG.3d868e2afec82a626da60bcc9acc3f68.JPG

The wooden plinths were then formed from .031" mahogany sheet.

DSC09657.thumb.JPG.47c433def91d8f1345fbffc4aea74e3b.JPG

DSC09658.thumb.JPG.88fb33cace6372c547288fc29c79df78.JPG

The deckhouse was given 3 coats of poly (but I think I will do more).

fullsizeoutput_20c5.jpeg.3ffcf6194dec14cf0b5ba291d0491d5d.jpeg

I then made a sketch of the winches using the photographs from the earlier post. The winch has 3 main parts - the lowest being the break, the middle being the chain sprocket and the top being a cable winch.

fullsizeoutput_20e7.thumb.jpeg.1f7372e94b07b92a3e1b6c7cbcb63614.jpeg

I started with the brake which is 0.1" thick. The first part of the brake was the lugs for the friction strap. These were milled from .025" rod and then rounded (using buttons) with a file.

fullsizeoutput_20ea.jpeg.e95133eaae9f6c4db17c0c40c15a998c.jpeg

The 2 drums were turned on the lathe (but not parted off). Slots were then milled in the drums to take the 2 lugs. The lugs were then soft soldered in place.

DSC09666.thumb.JPG.6a31b91e3d5a39ded897811a5811f35e.JPGfullsizeoutput_20a3.jpeg.9fdfc292e1ca8a5b6565ae2331652f4a.jpegfullsizeoutput_20a4.jpeg.40f6a6ff5263c8282b761417b944b5e2.jpeg

The rod (with lugs attached) was then retuned to the lathe and the lugs were machined to form the upper and lower brackets.

fullsizeoutput_20a6.jpeg.fd6d290fa573d61ca0ecf4e962639794.jpeg

The drums were then parted off.

fullsizeoutput_20cf.jpeg.d71ec028945fc32c8992f8a16259a964.jpeg

Finally .040" rod was treaded to form the clamping screw and circular bosses were turned to make the clamping pins. The thread can be felt but it is virtually invisible to the eye or on the camera.fullsizeoutput_20d1.thumb.jpeg.fee37133a68039e3c29afd707c751ab0.jpeg

fullsizeoutput_20d5.thumb.jpeg.913efe835ef1aabee20b83f776f4ed25.jpeg

Next the anchor sprockets.........

 

Edited by KeithAug

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ditto - flawless process.

 

cheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

"But try to understand, try to understand
Try, try, try to understand, I'm a magic lathe man"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Very nice way to make those pieces Keith.

 

Michael

Current builds  Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8;      Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8;       Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8

Other projects  Pilot Cutter 1:500 ;   Maria, 1:2  Now just a memory    

Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8

Finished projects  A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100  

 

Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank you Eberhard, Pat, Keith, Michael, Gary and Richard. 

Strange times in which we live - today I had a conversation with a neighbour when we were both on opposite sides of the road, people pass in the park while maintaining a significant distance. Apparently dog food is in short supply - even the dogs seem to have caught the hoarding bug.

 

Anyway - on with the winches:-

The chain sprockets were made in two halves. The outer diameter was calculated based on measurements of the chain. Six scallops were cut out on the mill using the hex collet block. 

fullsizeoutput_20a8.thumb.jpeg.9f0f24e17e10c5eba237bbac89a6c9f5.jpeg

The halves were then parted off.

fullsizeoutput_20b0.jpeg.a8453e66bfd322570aa9ad24dfa8c34f.jpeg

I then made sure the sprocket sizing was correct by fitting the chain.

DSC09683.thumb.JPG.63fe9af276315a20c428d78fbee333e0.JPG

The cable drum was then turned and a spigot was made on which to mount the components.

DSC09693.thumb.JPG.1182e950cafda5025b33e688b952cdd5.JPG

The winch was glued together with CA.

fullsizeoutput_20eb.jpeg.622b9447a0147a34bad92c973ad78e4f.jpeg

Small pins were then turned and glued in the holes of the break lugs. You can just about see the treads on the .040" rod passing through the lugs. The right hand one is fitted in the next photo.

fullsizeoutput_20ed.jpeg.2528d7069e6e02b41beb6d9de91ab420.jpeg

The break hand wheel bracket was made having done a rudimentary sketch.

fullsizeoutput_20d6.jpeg.5484b186f8e6d18c3028bf62c42f0700.jpeg

The compound vice came in handy for cutting the angles. 

DSC09703.thumb.JPG.e7295b67966f281ad4ab81bbabf08866.JPG

The brackets were formed in tandem.

DSC09712.thumb.JPG.03105885689857a9d1c6d4e2df150123.JPG

Before being slit off.

fullsizeoutput_20d7.jpeg.fd741ec4b350e8100f43147a7ebfca72.jpeg

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Now I know how to make what we call a gypsy for the anchor chain, thanks!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...