Spanish 68-gun ship of 1752 by Isidro - plans of Isidro Rivera and construction by Jose Collado

[Isidro]

more details

I do not know if the translation is correct,

just in case I put the original Spanish name

 

a escotilla pañol del farol- light room hatch?

b escotilla pañol condestable --  master gunner room  hatch?

c escotilla viveres--- store room hatch?

d pozo de bombas pump well and shot lockers

e escotilla principal main hatch

f escotilla de proa--bow hatch?

 

[Isidro]

stern detail

[Isidro]

😉

Edited February 21, 2019 by Isidro

[Isidro]

 pump well and shot lockers

[jose_toledo]

Buenas tardes lo primero les pido perdón por mi ingles pues de traductor

mi nombre es José Luis Collado jose_toledo en el foro Y soy el que esta construyendo el modelo de 68 cañones español junto con Isidro Rivera Solo darle las gracias por sus visitas y decirles que me alegro mucho que les guste el modelo Gracias por todo Saludos José 

 

Good evening the first thing I ask for pardon them for my Englishman since of translator

my name is Jose Luis Collado jose_toledo in the forum And am the fact that constructing this one the model Spanish of 68 cannons together with Isidro Rivera Solo thank him for his visits and to say to them that I am glad much that they like the model Gracias for quite Regards Jose

[KeithAug]

Lovely work Jose. Very impressive.

[Isidro]

continue with orlop

carpenter´s walk

 bread room

etc

[Isidro]

and in the bow the  sail´s room 

There are a lot of elements not commented, but if you want to mention Could

 

[albert]

Very nice work.

[Isidro]

First Deck

[Isidro]

 

in the Spanish ships there are two chain pumps ( first deck)  and two lever pumps ( 2 deck)

 

 

in the main hatch the anchor of "misericordia"--"mercy?"

Edited March 5, 2019 by Isidro

[Isidro]

The chain pumps are only similar to the English but they have differences in the cistern, 
and in the elm wood tubes. 
they would really be similar to some English models of the mid-18th century, 
and quite different from those described by current English authors, 
who always draw chain pumps at the end of the 18th century.

Edited March 5, 2019 by Isidro

[Isidro]

 

In the stern the cabins of the chaplains that in the Spanish navy of that time in addition to carrying out the religious services are in charge of the care of the sick or wounded crew, doing the functions of nursing and helping the surgeon. the starboard side only has the structure of the staterooms, the port side has the stateroom cabin

[md1400cs]

Jose,

 

Brilliant work. Your knowledge, skills and this build are a pleasure to follow as well as a great learning experience for me. Your log is a

miniature ship built plank by plank - amazing learning indeed- Thanks for sharing this log here at MSW.

 

Cheers,

[paulsutcliffe]

Wow beautiful work isidro 

Regards

Paul 

[Isidro]

 

 

if we continue forward we reach the bulkhead of the "santa barbara" that separates the ranch from the santabarbara from the rest of the ship.

 

the "santabarbara" is a camera for officers of the sea, who has the hatch to go down to the dustbin, the hatch of the powder lantern.

 

In the English ships, the powder room is in the bow and everything is different to what you will be used to.

 

the name of santabarbara comes to be a saint, patron of the artillery  

 

That bulkhead is folded upwards in case the commander gave the order: "ZAFARANCHO DE COMBATE"  Combat duty? 

zafa  means clear

rancho means camera

combate means fight

 

the hinges are made with gravure and are a couple of millimeters this bulkhead only has one door on the port side

[Isidro]

 

The Tiller ( barra del timon) , tiller rope (guardines del timon), sweep ( descanso de la caña del timon) 

 

according to the Spanish system of the mid-18th century.

 

If you have seen the MONTAÑES sweep of my friend Amalio, (which can be seen in the MSW), you will notice that the system is different. in England there are also differences from 1773 when the Pollard´s system begins. 

 

In this model, the system is simpler, as corresponds to a Spanish ship from the mid-18th century. the last pulley is fastened in the stern of the entrance to the cabin of the midshipmen

note
you can see the bulkhead of the Santabarbara on starboard, raised to the beams of the second deck

in the penultimate photo

 

 

Edited March 6, 2019 by Isidro

[Isidro]

Maneuvering the anchor cable to the main hatch and messenger to the main capstain, fixed to the cable with the nippers

Messenger ready to pull the cable.
nippers fitting (black thread)

 

The manger (caja de aguas) has a special provision that you will not be used to seeing if you only read Ancre books, or follow Lavery or Goodwin. is taken from some models of this time of the Naval Museum of Madrid, which I advise you to visit

 

 

Edited March 6, 2019 by Isidro
correction

[druxey]

Lovely work, Isidro. The differences in the way Spanish ships were constructed and worked is interesting as well.

[Richard Griffith]

Hermoso~!

Druxey said it well, too.          Duff

[ricardoolmoscardenas]

Excelente trabajo isidro y jose, impecable.

[Castos]

Hi Isidro

 

I will be following your log as I am planning to build Santisima Trinidad. At this stage I am busy redrawing the plans that I have.

 

I came across the article " Las Fragates de vela de la armada espanol 1600 - 1850 by Enrique Garcia-Torralba Pérez" which I am translating with the help of google.

 

Regards

 

Andre

[captain_hook]

That looks fantastic, very beautiful work.

[Isidro]

The book of Spanish frigates of Enrique garcia Torralba is a good book although this one in phase of update (not yet published). You can get it for now, although in the old edition.

 

Enrique Garcia Torralba is a very good friend of mine.

 

To have a Spanish vision of the Royal Spanish Armada, your book on the Navios of the Royal Navy is indispensable.
It has been awarded several prizes and is the benchmark to learn about the history and characteristics of the main ships.

If you only have a vision of the Spanish army by English, American or French historians and researchers, I think you lack the best. In all these years I have been able to prove that the knowledge of Spanish ships is very poor and full of topics, sometimes a caricature.

so I encourage you to get the book

 

in amazon they ask for the 353 euros

but if you order directly from a Spanish bookstore the price drops to 45 euros plus shipping costs

 

https://www.amazon.es/Navíos-Armada-1700-1860-Enrique-García-Torralba/dp/8493930342

http://www.nauticarobinson.com/libros/navios-de-la-real-armada-1700-1860/9788493930349/

[Castos]

Thanks for the update. I will get a friend from Spain to purchase the book for me.

 

Regards

 

Andre

[Amalio]

Very very good
A great job with great quality in its realization.
Congratulations.

[ricardoolmoscardenas]

Un trabajo exquisito !!! Felicitaciones Isidro, José. 

[Guillermo Gefaell]

Hola Isidro. Me llamo Guillermo Gefaell y soy ingeniero naval ¿Tu padre era ingeniero naval y trabajó en Barreras en los años 70? Si es así lo conocí y me caía muy bien.  Me gustaría contactar contigo para informarte de un Simposio sobre Buques Históricos que hemos organizado y que tendrá lugar en la Escuela de Navales Madrid los próximos 24 y 25 de abril. Mi correo es (email removed to prevent spam.)

Un cordial saludo.

[allanyed]

WELCOME TO MSW!!!!!

English please as many members do not speak Spanish.  Google translator or other on-line translation websites work really well for the most part.   The moderators will likely remove your email address in your post to save you from spammers.  You can also send a private message to other members by clicking on their name if you do not want to post for the entire membership.   The symposium sounds like a great gathering😀.

Allan

 

I hope the following translation is close. 

 

Hello Isidro. My name is Guillermo Gefaell and I am a naval engineer. Your father was a naval engineer and worked in Barreras in the 70s? If so, I met him and I liked him very much. I would like to contact you to inform you about a Symposium on Historic Ships that we have organized and that will take place at the Madrid Naval School on April 24 and 25. My email is XXXXXXXXXXXX   A cordial greeting.

 

Edited March 15 by allanyed

[giampieroricci]

fantastic work!!