RGL Posted March 10, 2019 Share #1 Posted March 10, 2019 I saw this upgrade from 5 Star models when I was watching @Jack12477, 's build of a Fletcher. http://steelnavy.net/5StarFletcherUpgrade350FBustelo.html Then I saw a photo on the net of some oilcanning So I thought, challenging, detailed (seriously the hardest PE set I've seen to date), I can beat it up, and it's small so mistakes won't be so visible. As it's a US Ship there are a lot of photos but this one will be strait out of the boxes. Ryland Craze, Old Collingwood, Dubz and 7 others 10 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share #2 Posted March 10, 2019 A few reference books. 6 sheets of PE, lots of resin and brass too. yvesvidal, Piet, ccoyle and 8 others 11 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted March 10, 2019 Share #3 Posted March 10, 2019 Interesting timing -- I was just working on my family tree yesterday and came across a distant cousin who served a long stint aboard USS Grayson (DD-435), a member of the preceding Gleaves class. He transferred to Grayson after doing one patrol on USS Plunger (SS-179). Piet, popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted March 10, 2019 Share #4 Posted March 10, 2019 Nice choice Greg. Looks like there will be more brass than plastic on this build. Can't help but compare your pictures of the turrets and other cast parts with those sold by Model Monkey https://www.shapeways.com/product/U7FU99ZEF/1-350-5-quot-38-cal-mk-30-double-knuckle-mounts I know that if you start buying more stuff like gun directors, turrets, etc that it isn't really out of the box anymore, but there is so much available. If you were building a square bridge you could even have an interior! https://www.shapeways.com/product/TVMMY4PWW/1-350-fletcher-bath-iron-works-type-pilot-house https://www.shapeways.com/product/QCBL5SHN9/1-350-fletcher-bethlehem-steel-type-pilot-house Here is his whole 1/350 catalog. Destroyers are on the right column. https://modelmonkey.wixsite.com/modelmonkey/scale-350 Going back to hide in my corner but looking forward to your build as always. Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted March 10, 2019 Unfortunately their shipping to the bottom of the earth is astronomical mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenF89 Posted March 10, 2019 Share #6 Posted March 10, 2019 Sweet! Another beat-up destroyer. Can’t wait to see this one come together. Canute, Old Collingwood, Piet and 3 others 6 Quote ~ Ben ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ Current Builds: 'Doll-Boat' - 1:12 scale 40' Cruising Sailboat S.S. Edmund Fitzgerald - 1:350 plastic kit w/ Photo Etch Parts (On Hold) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share #7 Posted March 10, 2019 As I stated, the level of detail is amazing Jack12477, Old Collingwood, hexnut and 9 others 12 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 10, 2019 Share #8 Posted March 10, 2019 I'll be in for watching this one. I hope that at 13 inches long, you're eyes don't cross as the brass work has to be really tiny. popeye the sailor, Piet, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share #9 Posted March 10, 2019 (edited) It’s a little bit tiny Edited March 10, 2019 by RGL Ryland Craze, Piet, popeye the sailor and 7 others 10 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted March 10, 2019 Share #10 Posted March 10, 2019 Thank God for Optivisors. I'll tag along on this one, too. Old Collingwood, mtaylor, lmagna and 3 others 6 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share #11 Posted March 13, 2019 Getting my head around how to progress and filling a few holes, there is a lot of PE for a small kit. Canute, Piet, coxswain and 13 others 16 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvesvidal Posted March 13, 2019 Share #12 Posted March 13, 2019 Okay, this is a BRASS model with some plastic add-ons. You have come full circle now. Yves Old Collingwood, Canute, Piet and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share #13 Posted March 13, 2019 Now those of you that have served, how long would it take to get this grunged up? I’m going to build her for 1942 and her first tour to the South Pacific before the first refit. mtaylor, lmagna, cog and 7 others 10 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted March 13, 2019 Share #14 Posted March 13, 2019 Makes you realise what a special job - dry docking is getting the ship ligned up to catch those blocks. OC. Canute, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicroMarine Posted March 13, 2019 Share #15 Posted March 13, 2019 Some years ago (to be kept secret) the USN & Royal Navy had a cross deck program in the Med where each swapped crew members to experience life in each other's Navy. I sailed on HMS Leander. in our mock war games. "Absolute" BLAST..... Old Collingwood, coxswain, lmagna and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted March 13, 2019 Share #16 Posted March 13, 2019 11 hours ago, RGL said: how long would it take to get this grunged up? It would seem that it would depend on where the ship was located and how active she was. Warmer waters should make marine growth a bigger problem. Sitting at anchor or at a dock rather than being underway would also promote a better marine growth environment I would think. Piet, Canute, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted March 13, 2019 Share #17 Posted March 13, 2019 As Ken said: thanks for optivisors. I'll need one following this build Jan Piet, Canute, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION 12 Posted March 13, 2019 Share #18 Posted March 13, 2019 Holy smokes I have the model The Sullivans by Trumpeter same scale but with no PE parts sure it won't hold a candle to yours . Piet, mtaylor, lmagna and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack12477 Posted March 13, 2019 Share #19 Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, LEGION 12 said: Holy smokes I have the model The Sullivans by Trumpeter same scale but with no PE parts sure it won't hold a candle to yours . Toms ModelWorks makes a PE kit for The Sullivans, MegaHobbies carries them lmagna, popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION 12 Posted March 13, 2019 Share #20 Posted March 13, 2019 59 minutes ago, Jack12477 said: Toms ModelWorks makes a PE kit for The Sullivans, MegaHobbies carries them Sadly it's already half built or I would of bought one. Canute, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION 12 Posted March 13, 2019 Share #21 Posted March 13, 2019 yvesvidal, Canute, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share #22 Posted March 18, 2019 Progress of sorts, hull joined up and the brass non slip footpaths added to the deck. Light coat of primer so I can start drawing up hull plates. Then the main gun mounts. Resin v plastic, mtaylor, Canute, popeye the sailor and 9 others 12 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted March 18, 2019 Share #23 Posted March 18, 2019 How well does the pe stick to resin using ca? OC. popeye the sailor, lmagna, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share #24 Posted March 18, 2019 Very very well and very quickly mtaylor, popeye the sailor, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted March 18, 2019 Share #25 Posted March 18, 2019 Greg, When I look at the pictures from the Fletcher, and I look at your primed hull, I see a difference in the way the hull plating has been lined up in the vertical. On your model it is stepped, on the real life ship the plates sides are a single line from bottom to top, but for a few at the bow ... will you change that or stick to the hull plating layout from the kit popeye the sailor, Canute, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share #26 Posted March 18, 2019 It actually looks right! There is no detail below the boot line which I need to add. Piet, Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeKapas Posted March 18, 2019 Share #27 Posted March 18, 2019 These PE sets are trully detailed indeed. As for oil canning mentioned, all Fletchers have this, I went on Velos in Athens and the stress wrinkling is very noticeable. Canute, Piet, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote My builts: Greek ironclad Hydra - 1889 - 1/700 - scratchbuilt Royal Louis - Heller - 1/200 - plastic Sovereign of the Seas -Airfix- 1/168- plastic Completed models: Ottoman Ship of the Line Mahmudiye - 1/350 - scratchbuilt 17th century Venetian galley by GeorgeKapas - 1/350 - scratchbuilt Armored cruiser Georgios Averof - 1/700 - scratchbuilt La Tartane - Heller - 1/150 - plastic British Bomb Ketch - Pyro - 1/150 - plastic HMS Victory rezzed into a 74 -Aifix- 1/180 - plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share #28 Posted March 20, 2019 Bridge in progress lmagna, popeye the sailor, cog and 12 others 15 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted March 20, 2019 Share #29 Posted March 20, 2019 Is there any plastic in that kit🤩 OC. popeye the sailor, Piet, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenF89 Posted March 20, 2019 Share #30 Posted March 20, 2019 Dumb question (probably): how is the added thickness of the brass plating accounted for without making the superstructure out of scale in its dimensions? Or is the ‘out of scale’ negligible? (though, at 1:350, even small changes would be significant at full scale) Old Collingwood, Piet, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote ~ Ben ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ Current Builds: 'Doll-Boat' - 1:12 scale 40' Cruising Sailboat S.S. Edmund Fitzgerald - 1:350 plastic kit w/ Photo Etch Parts (On Hold) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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