Old Collingwood Posted October 22, 2020 Share #241 Posted October 22, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 11:29 PM, mtaylor said: Ah, the joys of getting older. I heard the cell phone about week and ago and couldn't find it. It was in my pocket. I'm just about ready for the home. Wire it up to some Very Very loud Speakers - the wires wont be too much of a head ache as you walk around with the phone in your pocket.😛 OC. FriedClams, Keith Black, EJ_L and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 23, 2020 Share #242 Posted October 23, 2020 gawd, than my parents got my date of birth wrong!!! Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share #243 Posted December 14, 2020 Just brief status update.... not dead in the water but just slow going due to outside events and some stupidity on my part. Discovered after putting on 4 strakes, getting the gunports squared away on that I blew it. Stupid error... used the wrong width of planks. <sigh> Had the saw setup for 1/4" cuts for the wales and somewhere in the mists of the last few weeks/months, forgot to change the cut width to 3/16". <sigh> Had to rip off the 4 strakes, clean up the hull and re-cut the cut wood for the correct size. I think I'm going to take the day off, engage in some web browsing along with some strong drinks. Canute, BANYAN, Jaager and 9 others 9 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted December 14, 2020 Share #244 Posted December 14, 2020 Sorry to hear that Mark - but I think we’ve all done that or something very similar at some point. A day off and a stiff drink to clear the mind is a good remedy Edwardkenway, Canute, mtaylor and 6 others 9 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack12477 Posted December 14, 2020 Share #245 Posted December 14, 2020 Sounds like a plan! 😉 Canute, cog, Edwardkenway and 5 others 8 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted December 14, 2020 Share #246 Posted December 14, 2020 Mark, I'm not going hit the like button but I do feel your pain. Rub some dirt on it and get back in there. mtaylor, popeye the sailor, druxey and 2 others 5 Quote Current Builds: Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted December 14, 2020 Share #247 Posted December 14, 2020 We all make mistakes like this ... particularly, as we get older and don‘t remember what we did before Canute, EJ_L, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted December 14, 2020 Share #248 Posted December 14, 2020 sorry to hear mark, thats certainly not something you would be able to live with is it? i will have a stiff drink for you Canute, FriedClams, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share #249 Posted December 14, 2020 Thanks for the comments. It's frustrating but not a disaster. I've cut the over wide planks down which helped mentally. Now I'll sit back, have my beverage and sort things out. Like many of us, there's always seems to be that moment when you feel like just tossing it but I'm more determined than ever to get it done and get it done right. popeye the sailor, dvm27, druxey and 10 others 13 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriedClams Posted December 23, 2020 Share #250 Posted December 23, 2020 On 12/14/2020 at 5:35 PM, mtaylor said: Like many of us, there's always seems to be that moment when you feel like just tossing it How true. When I have a brain fart, I usually correct the mistake quickly and then set the model aside and out of my sight. Otherwise, the error just stews and I resist returning to the model. But I always do. Take a breather and enjoy your beverage Mark. Gary mtaylor, KenW, druxey and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build Pelican Eastern-Rig Dragger Completed Scratch Builds Rangeley Guide Boat New England Stonington Dragger 1940 Auto Repair Shop Mack FK Shadowbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share #251 Posted December 23, 2020 7 hours ago, FriedClams said: How true. When I have a brain fart, I usually correct the mistake quickly and then set the model aside and out of my sight. Otherwise, the error just stews and I resist returning to the model. But I always do. Take a breather and enjoy your beverage Mark. Gary Been doing that and mentally trying to sort things out. I finally picked up a strip of wood and some glue and started laying planks again. BANYAN, Canute, KentM and 5 others 8 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted December 23, 2020 Share #252 Posted December 23, 2020 Yes, it's best to get back in the saddle, Mark. As others have said, we've all made silly mistakes at one time or another. Onward and upward! FriedClams, BANYAN, Canute and 5 others 8 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted December 24, 2020 Share #253 Posted December 24, 2020 Thoughts are with you mate; keep at it. Stay safe Pat Keith Black, popeye the sailor, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce d Posted December 24, 2020 Share #254 Posted December 24, 2020 Mark, I have gone back through this build to catch up. I think this will be a magnificent ship, I had no idea the Ancre plans were for a POB build. I will pull up a chair if you have room for one more? Keith Black, popeye the sailor, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote 🌻 STAY SAFE A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin current builds: HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted December 24, 2020 Share #255 Posted December 24, 2020 Mark, Merry Christmas to you and yours and a Happy New Year.......Keith popeye the sailor, Canute and Edwardkenway 3 Quote Current Builds: Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share #256 Posted December 25, 2020 Thanks gentlemen. I'm slowly making progress. Once the first line of wales is done I'll post pics. I think I got it right this time, but it did cost me some hair that I pulled out. It's taking more then I expected to bend and shape a piece of wood that roughly 1/4" wide and 1/8th inch thick. But I'm patient. On 12/24/2020 at 3:35 AM, bruce d said: Mark, I have gone back through this build to catch up. I think this will be a magnificent ship, I had no idea the Ancre plans were for a POB build. I will pull up a chair if you have room for one more? Bruce, I think this is only POB monograph ANCRE did but I know it was one of the first. Always room for one more. bruce d, druxey, Keith Black and 6 others 9 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted December 27, 2020 Share #257 Posted December 27, 2020 What specie of wood and what bending method are you using, Mark? popeye the sailor and Canute 2 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share #258 Posted December 27, 2020 18 hours ago, druxey said: What specie of wood and what bending method are you using, Mark? Hi Druxey, I'm using Swiss Pear wood. As for the bending method... due to thickness I've found basically that the planks must soak for several hours. I then use Chuck's method of clamping the piece to some scrap plywood and hitting it with a heat gun, moving it constantly to dry the wood for about 10 minutes or so. Then let it cool. I've found it takes the better part of the day to sit as anything less then about 5 hours leaves center still damp. On that note, the upper wale (and the thickest) is on and the glue is drying. For the hull below the wales, the planks are thinned out some and tapered eventually to the final thickness I think I posted a copy of the cross-section that shows this. So unless there's outside distractions, planking should pick up speed. I found that in order to get the top wale in position (it's the key to the rest of the hull planking) I needed to identify accurately the wale location. I did this by printing out the Hull Plan and cutting it up. There's a line that not's mentioned in the text but it's the top of the wale so I cut the plans, taped it to the side using the gunports as a reference and marked up the hull. I then put the wale planks in place. Three long planks per side. The most troublesome part was getting the bow plank fitted. It needs to be bent in two directions and also as a small twist. Here's some photos of the process. Note that I've not done any cleanup work. I still need to blend in the joins on the planks and some shaping. At some point I'll pull back further and get the whole hull in a pic. Things still look pretty ugly but then, like my Dad used to say about Corned Beef.... you really don't want to see it being made... BETAQDAVE, bruce d, wefalck and 23 others 26 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Y Posted December 28, 2020 Share #259 Posted December 28, 2020 Nothing that could not be fixed with a bit of sanding! 👍 Canute, EJ_L, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share #260 Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Mike Y said: Nothing that could not be fixed with a bit of sanding! 👍 It looks "rough" but closing my eyes and running my hand over it, it feels pretty smooth. popeye the sailor, bruce d, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightyo Posted December 29, 2020 Share #261 Posted December 29, 2020 Hi Mark, I'm sure it's been mentioned, but I can't find what kind of finish you are going to apply to the planks. I've actually ripped the planking off my Syren and am replacing it with swiss pear along with the Pentart Patina discussed in the "Bitumen/asphalt" thread (found a supplier in Canada who still has a stock). I'm going to test it on a number of scrap planks first with mixture of mineral spirts and compare against tung oil, and probably a third candidate of some type. I'll give you a heads-up on the results if you have an interest. Alan mtaylor, Keith Black, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Alan's POB Build Log HMS Triton 1/64 Alan's POB Build Log USS Syren 1/64 Alan's Build Log Nina 1/106 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted December 29, 2020 Share #262 Posted December 29, 2020 Yes, our fingertips are a pretty good tool to feel the smoothness of the work. mtaylor, Keith Black, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share #263 Posted December 29, 2020 8 hours ago, knightyo said: Hi Mark, I'm sure it's been mentioned, but I can't find what kind of finish you are going to apply to the planks. I've actually ripped the planking off my Syren and am replacing it with swiss pear along with the Pentart Patina discussed in the "Bitumen/asphalt" thread (found a supplier in Canada who still has a stock). I'm going to test it on a number of scrap planks first with mixture of mineral spirts and compare against tung oil, and probably a third candidate of some type. I'll give you a heads-up on the results if you have an interest. Alan I'm not fond of WOP... too thick. I do have some Duraclear Satin Varnish which brush on but not sure I'll use it. Right now, I'm thinking spray can... satin varnish. I'm a long way from that point so lots of time to sort it out. popeye the sailor, Canute, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share #264 Posted February 27, 2021 Time to bring this log up to date and maybe call it "proof of life" during the virus. After being unhappy with the first strakes and ripping them off, I did them again... and again. Finally happy. It's just 6 rows but methinks I'll be picking up some speed on the rest. I still need to give it some more sanding and a bit of filling and also finish opening the gunports to upper sills. The starboard side has been trimmed and as I said, needs more sanding. The port side is only planked at this point. Overall, I'm feeling pretty good about it. Much of my memory has returned since the stroke and that helps in sorting things out. In the background is the planking wood waiting for me to lay into place. Here's photos.... ChrisLBren, Edwardkenway, bruce d and 29 others 32 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted February 28, 2021 Share #265 Posted February 28, 2021 Looking Good Mark .. Great that you are feeling better too ! Eamonn mtaylor, bruce d, popeye the sailor and 6 others 9 Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted February 28, 2021 Share #266 Posted February 28, 2021 Hi Mark Just catching up Glad to see that you are back working on the ship. I had missed your earlier troubles so am happy to hear that your health issue is receding into the past. And that you are moving forward with the planking. As has already been stated our focus on our model work is a great healing power. Michael mtaylor, Canute, druxey and 6 others 9 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardkenway Posted February 28, 2021 Share #267 Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, michael mott said: I had missed your earlier troubles so am happy to hear that your health issue is receding into the past I did too. So really good news you're on the mend. The planks (pear?) look pretty good. I imagine it will be a bit more difficult moving down the hull as I believe French ships had a more pronounced tumblehome? Looking forward to more updates😉 popeye the sailor, EJ_L, Keith Black and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share #268 Posted March 13, 2021 Slowly making progress though sometimes it's two step forward and one in reverse. This bit was a combination. I was one plank too high on the aft.. had to remove it. But planking above the wale is installed, gunports cut and sized. Also a light sanding. Gap filling will happen after all hull planking is done. Ryland Craze, popeye the sailor, GrandpaPhil and 24 others 27 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.L. Posted March 14, 2021 Share #269 Posted March 14, 2021 Looks nice, Mark. Keith Black, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote G.L. Current projects: Oostends schipje (Ostend shrimper) - scale 1:20 Clipper d'Argenteuil - POF - scale 1/15 - SMALL Completed projects: Norwegian Whale Boat - POF - scale 1/10 - SMALL Anatomy of a boat by G.L. - scale 1/10 - POF - SMALL Day gaff sailing boat with center board - FINISHED - SMALL - scale 1/10 Cross section fishing smack - FINISHED -scale 1:20HMS Triton cross section - FINISHED - Scale 1:24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightyo Posted March 14, 2021 Share #270 Posted March 14, 2021 I really like the look of pear. This will be a beauty. What are you thinking of filling the gaps with, Mark? Alan popeye the sailor, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Alan's POB Build Log HMS Triton 1/64 Alan's POB Build Log USS Syren 1/64 Alan's Build Log Nina 1/106 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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