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I decided to strip off the bottom three planks on each side because that seems like the area I have the biggest problem.  I’m sanding that some more and then I’ll work my way down from the top the way that Robert Vaglio did in his build.  Thanks for giving me your honest opinions.  It won’t be any fun if it turns out like crap.

 

Oh look: I’ve made it to page two!

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Matt, I really can't tell from looking at your photos - so you're probably the best judge of how it looks IRL. I believe the Virginia is double planked, which also hides a multitude of sins, and allows for liberal use of sandpaper and wood filler before you put down layer No. 2. I for one always worry about tearing things apart, since I always wind up taking more wood off pieces I don't want to damage than I intend.

One thing I always do when talking to folks who are working on their first build is recommend they track down a copy of "Ship Modeling Simplified" by Frank Mastini. I see you can pick it up used on Amazon for less than $3 plus shipping. It was the book that convinced me I could build a wooden model ship and proved invaluable when I was building Constructo's "Enterprise," which was a nice-looking build with really, really bad instructions. Mastini does a great job of guiding you through the building process, explaining things, illustrating things and generally giving you the information and confidence you need to build a nice model.

 https://www.amazon.com/Ship-Modeling-Simplified-Techniques-Construction/dp/0071558675/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3EIIXUN6HJA2H&keywords=ship+modeling+simplified&qid=1553395033&s=gateway&sprefix=Ship+modeling+s%2Caps%2C339&sr=8-1

One thing not to do is to get discouraged. Someone here has a signature that says something along the lines of "the ship modeler is slow, but the wood is patient," which I always took to mean that there is nothing that can't eventually be made to look good. I personally think your model is looking good.

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Thanks, Stevinne.  I have that book and I’ve read most of it.  But I had mostly been going by the AL instructions and many build logs. I had not connected the dots on figuring out the plank tapers early on, but now see some really good examples in other Virginia build logs.

 

I’m not stripping off the upper section, but I did pull off the three stakes at the keel.  Looking more carefully at other people’s first layer, I didn’t think what I had would mate up well with the keel extension.  I then faired the bulkheads as advised.  Then I went a little further and did a little bit of sanding on the remaining planks.  I think they look pretty good, but I didn’t take any photos yet.  

 

Constructo Enterprise is one I’d like to build some day.

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I fully agree that once your first layer is on you really can "iron out" a lot with a good filler and sandpaper. We all do it and that preps the hull nicely for your second layer. 

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I agree with them two 👆, its looking much better, keep at it!

 

Good to see you kept the six bands on the barrels too, not reduced them to four like some people...…. 🤔

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55 minutes ago, nikbud said:

Good to see you kept the six bands on the barrels too, not reduced them to four like some people...…. 🤔

Hi hi, I just ran and checked the bands on my Virginia.... I have 6 😁

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I’m not quite done with the barrels.  I started by making stave joints with a pencil.  I tried backing them up by cutting into them with an exacto knife, but I couldn’t really get much effect, so I left them like you see the lines.  Then I stained them with Minwax Gunstock stain.  I was planning on using golden oak, but really liked the gunstock color when I was at the store.  I also found some 6mm wide Tamiya masking tape, which looked really skinny when I bought it, but is actually closer to a mile wide when compared to the masking needed for the barrels.  But it cuts nicely with an exacto knife with a straight edge.  Masking was tedious because of the shape of the barrel.  I used black acrylic paint with a fine brush.  After it dried, I pealed the tape only to find that half the bands were too narrow.  So I had to tape them up again and paint some more.  I still wasn’t happy, so I tried filling in with a sharpie marker and that’s when I learned that I should have skipped the tape and paint and just used a sharpie.  I still have a little more touching up, but I have to be in the right place mentally so I don’t mess them up with an errant mark.

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I’m finished with laying the first layer of Hull planking and working carefully on preparing for the next few steps.  I still have more sanding to do and then some filling.  I’m looking at the bulwarks and the transom/upper stern.  The instructions are not very clear on how the upper stern and deck beam mate up.  The deck beam piece flares out and is slightly wider than the back of the deck and the upper stern. I think I need to sand it to the same width.  It also interferes with the bulwarks, so something has to go.  Since unsanding is hard, can any previous Virginia builders tell me what I should do to get a good result?

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I do not recall this happening to me either. I agree, sanding looks like the way to go on this one. Once you get a nice even finish the bulwarks should sit flush. 

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I just had a quick look through my instructions and I think you are talking about part 11? If so then yes it is supposed to be sanded to match the shape of frame 10 to which it is attached. Hope this helps.

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Sardonicmeow, Wallace, nikbud: thank you very much for your answers.  I will confidently sand away this evening.

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I had to travel for work last week and wasn’t able to work on my model for a few days. Before I left, I added the bulwarks.  Today, I installed the upper stern piece and added some wood filler to smooth out the hull before planking the second layer.  After getting that done, I made wooden bitts to use instead of the metal ones that came in the kit.  They came out pretty good after a few tries.

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I agree, you will end up with a much better looking boat replacing the dirty grey metal with wood. You are doing well there.

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I’m working on the second layer planking.  I’m using PVA brushed on with a dampened paint brush.  Then I tape it with blue painters tape until it dries.  It’s a slow process, but it’s very forgiving: I can make adjustments if I don’t like how it goes on.  I was thinking about CA to make it faster, but I don'twant it to dry fast in the wrong position.

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On 4/8/2019 at 6:28 PM, Wallace said:

I did the same thing with mine too, those clunky metal parts looked awful. Nice job sir. 

 

On 4/9/2019 at 12:16 PM, nikbud said:

I agree, you will end up with a much better looking boat replacing the dirty grey metal with wood. You are doing well there.

Thank, Wallace and Nikbud.  I didn’t come up with that idea on my own - I learned it from your logs (and others).  

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Matt, something caught my eye while I was reading your last post. Take a look at your image below. The arrow points to what looks like a hollow point under your second layer of planking. It may be an optical illusion but if it isn't and there is a hollow there you might want to think about filling and sanding before you go much further with your second layer. 

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The reason I was a bit concerned was because the strakes so close to the bow will need to be secured nice and tight. They are under a bit more tension there compared to the midships area and it would be sad if they sprung off at a later date because there was a hollow section with no glue holding them underneath.

 

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Hi Mark.  You have a sharp eye.  I have had that happen on almost every strake starting at about the third one going down from the top.  The compound curve causes it to want to pucker up just slightly.  There's very little stretch in these planks, unlike the first layer.  So on each spot where that happened, I used a paint brush to push extra glue under the popped out section and then taped it down good and tight to dry.  This photo must have been before I glued that one down, because it's tight and secure now.  Thanks for your attention to detail and for pointing it out.

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Happy Easter!  Here are some pics of my recent progress on the second layer of planking.  I’ve done some sanding on the port side to see how it would smooth out.  I’m pretty happy with it and hope I can do as well or a little better on the starboard side.

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Very nice Matt, Planking looks nice and tight.

I am just about to do my Mermaid with the same planking material.

Looking at yours reminded me to to the transom first. Thanks Chris

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