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Then the posts around the main mast where the pumps are between them, looked to close. First I thought I had made a mistake but placing the 4 buckets on the plans there is not room for them to fit in. so another post had to come up and move. But it’s easy to cover and fix.20190502_212637.thumb.jpg.cdb674f3c7d86e5c7510349ec43aa272.jpg

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The 1to1 deck plan.20190528_190516.thumb.jpg.0d9707ae22c47fde492288a63024512a.jpg

At this point I had to decide about painting. I like the wood finish so I’m going to leave it unpainted. The model has metal plating for the bow (as it was meant to break through ice). This I will also be leaving off. Unpainted I just think it will look like I cut up a can of red bull and stuck it on.

 

Next are the pillars. These are 1mm brass rods cut down and bent into loops at both ends. Then bent around the bumper and pinned into place. There are 70 needed, about half way through I realized that I would be about 14 short. The rods come in 100mm; again I thought I had made a mistake using too much? But I had cut them to the instructions lengths and I would still need more for other parts of the ship (like the pumps). I filled out the missing parts form on the Occre website and received an email that they would send the missing parts on.

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While waiting for them to arrive I worked on the parts that go on the deck. Making them but not gluing them on till I had all finished.

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 These were a change, up till now everything had been to do with the hull. But these are small parts made separate. :D

 

All glued on and the 2 belay posts in there correct places. There is a small mark on the deck where the front one was, but it’s almost invisible. The one next to the main mast is covered by the pumps.20190512_004758.thumb.jpg.c43afa59db6f1dba6e3d1e1be04b3561.jpg

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I ordered beeswax online and then used it on the line holding the ships boat. It makes a huge difference to candle wax. Then moved onto the pump handles, this has a lot of tight bends that were challenging and I had to do it twice. The anchor chains were straightforward though.

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The davits were ok, hardest part was trying to fix the eyebolts together at an angle with the superglue. But with theses attached and the brass rods at the bow, every time I move something is getting snagged.

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The anchor chain links are too small to fit the loop that the anchor is attached to. In the end I had to file a small bit of the loop.20190522_233814.thumb.jpg.11cd509fe862a72c2ef405b765c28c08.jpg

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I decided after seeing the bowsprit made up that it could do with some variation to break up the dowl colour. So I'm going to water down some paint and use it more like a stain. 20190523_230100.thumb.jpg.1c6227ebae1e42d64d2e27dfd2c90012.jpg20190524_214308.thumb.jpg.e04cbfef086d8b4fc3269db4434b376a.jpg

I also moved the ropes and wood block on the 1st half up higher than where they are on the instructions. The placement on the instructions didn't match where they should be on the pictures.

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The masts were straight forward enough. It was easier to paint them in sections and then put them together. 20190526_162219.thumb.jpg.87eb01a47cba2d8a906c25ed6bd7bee7.jpg

I recently got a rotary tool (it was very cheap, wasn't sure I would need it) and thought it would be a good opportunity to try it out on the holes for the mast. It was amazing and saved me so much time 😁.20190526_210919.thumb.jpg.f74e33bc334fea41159296d7337509b2.jpg20190526_210944.thumb.jpg.4166ffd54a61cc1664923a49ca741a45.jpg20190526_211017.thumb.jpg.bf2e2a6e53b4a242f019bc6f764636dd.jpg

Now its starting to look like a proper ship. 

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The yard arms took a surprising amount of time, but there is a lot going on in them.20190529_225234.thumb.jpg.94b2e5060e599d05336f3dfb2a44cdf1.jpg20190530_065702.thumb.jpg.fd3101afeb1f2362588912c03e2ceaae.jpg

For the shroud I was pulling the string tight. I think this was the wrong way to go because the first mast the dead eyes were not level. For the 2nd mast shroud it was not ai tight. 

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The ratlines got easier the more I did but it feels like knitting with tweezers. 

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Really nice build for a 1st attempt @ a wood ship kit.  I have one too.  I am not sure if I will paint or as you have, stay w/natural wood finish.  Keep up the great workmanship.  You got her whipped and now should all be down hill.

Rick

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I am curious about one of the details as applied by Occre to the kit, the chain running down the deck.  Should it be a chain or a rope f/this time period.  A heavy chain would seem to reek havoc on a wood deck w/o any protection?  

Rick 

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Opened my kit today.  The plastic box had opened up during ship and small parts were everywhere.  Over all the kit is very complete and well thought out.  Would have liked to have @ least one full drawn sheet with profile and deck.  The deck is included, but that will be used as you did to properly place items on deck.  I did encounter 2 areas that gave me pause.  The FK has a very slight bow and the deck has a slight twist.  Will break out the steam iron, then after wet enough, will place these 2 items between sheet glass and leave for a week and hope that takes care of the issue.  I ordered this from the UK and had w/in 5 days to the USA.  Now that's a efficient mail service.  I have noticed that kits which leave their laser cut parts attached to the sheet cut from, are less likely to develop any twist/bows.  Anyhow, all parts accounted for and as soon as the issues are addressed, will start my own build.  I believe I will go w/color vs natural wood finish.  I am also toying with adding skids to one of the ships boats.

Rick

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Contacted the mfg.  I have learned from the past, you can not keep a twist/warp/bow out of ply.  Yes it will flatten out for a period, then return.  Seems to have something to do with one side drying out and inducing the warp!  E-mail sent requesting replacements.  I ordered as I said from the UK, got the kit for a better price that way.  But for this kits $, replacement parts should not be a issue!

Rick😎

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On 8/2/2019 at 4:44 AM, sir francis haddock said:

Mine had a slight twist, but was able to put it straight while planking. Hope all the plarts are fine, shame about the box opening. Good luck with your build 😀

Thank you sir.  I sent a e-mail to Occre and yesterday they replied the replacement parts were on the way.  I too would have went on with the slight bow in the FK and as you know, if doable can be straightened out.  But factor in a twisted deck too boot, and you have a lot of torque going on.  I have had hulls turn out just fine today and a few days later, you notice a odd look to some area.  So rather than play with it, I thought it prudent to just request the correct profile parts.  I have to give props to Occre, they reacted fast and no hoops to jump thru.  Can not say that about some I have dealt with.  So, looks like I will have a Winter project after all😁.

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Not too hi-jack your thread, but I want to build/color as I go.  Have you ever or for anyone who reads this, used India Ink to precolour your planks.  I want the ship to have the feel and look of a planked vessel.  Paint does the job yes, but it obscures the plank detail.  Have read others say they have used this method.  Just wondering if this is not a messy way to do. 

Rick

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I only recently discovered your build of this mighty warlord, she's beautiful. I love the lines on her and I think if I was in the process of building her I would be crying as to paint her or not? either way she would look this beautiful.                                                                                                                                                                                  keep up the great work she is a ship to be admired.

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On 8/3/2019 at 5:05 PM, RickyGene said:

Not too hi-jack your thread, but I want to build/color as I go.  Have you ever or for anyone who reads this, used India Ink to precolour your planks.  I want the ship to have the feel and look of a planked vessel.  Paint does the job yes, but it obscures the plank detail.  Have read others say they have used this method.  Just wondering if this is not a messy way to do. 

Rick

For my deck I just used a pencil for the edges then varnish. 

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Thanks Sir for this intersting article series about H.M.S.TERROR and your build. I was watching the movie and read some books and articles online but could not reach the point to buy this kit. As you show how she is to build I am interested and think it might be an astonisching present for my wife who starts her own modelship career these days with wounderful precice output. As we both have seen the movieseries she will be interested to build and bash this kit. So I will follow you further steps and have a look onto your solutions on this build*. .

 

So I am highly interested in your further progresses with this kit and seaching for a yellow bathtube's duck. Thanks for sharing your first steps into this wounderful hobby and welcome back again ;).

 

*She told me she would change the gratings as she remembers that there were no isolation cloth unter the grating in the movie and recognized that the thinner planks were adjusted into grooves in thicker bars as a crossover unit. By watching several building reports on YT she got a good knowledge and became very critical on this kit gratings - and today she figured out if it is a kit or a scracht build with an eye on this particular feature. Here one way to build those more close to the original prototype - from somewhere here on this side by paragraf.

 

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Hoping to give some helping hand to you. Please do not try to tear the gratings out if the are glued in, the trail to remove them may ruin the hole deck. The holes in the gratings have to be in that kind that a shoe's heel isn't stuck in there. (What makes it obviously why Ahab hadn't had a conical whalebone's end as his foots small surfaced substitution.)

Hope this helpes.

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Any up-dates my friend.  Thought you would like to know the FK/Ribs are now in the build slip.  I have read and re-read your thread and I have decided to start now this same wonderful kit.  I again will ask a question I asked before hoping someone would reply.  I have some wonderful Pear and Boxwood, I am undecided about using or use the material that comes w/the kit.  If I use the supplied wood for the 2nd planking, I will color.

What I want is for the planking to remain evident and not just a slick sided paint job.  So again, I am looking at either India Ink and or black dye for the areas that require black.  I will as you shared use the pencil method to replicate the deck caulking but here I will digress and use boxwood for the decking and deck hardware.  I also will replace the chain for the anchors w/heavy cord for the cables.  I just have a hard time seeing that chain run down the deck and not demolish everything in it's way.  If this is correct for the chain, please someone let me know.  Looking forward to your progress.

Rick😎

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1 hour ago, RickyGene said:

Any up-dates my friend.  Thought you would like to know the FK/Ribs are now in the build slip.  I have read and re-read your thread and I have decided to start now this same wonderful kit.  I again will ask a question I asked before hoping someone would reply.  I have some wonderful Pear and Boxwood, I am undecided about using or use the material that comes w/the kit.  If I use the supplied wood for the 2nd planking, I will color.

What I want is for the planking to remain evident and not just a slick sided paint job.  So again, I am looking at either India Ink and or black dye for the areas that require black.  I will as you shared use the pencil method to replicate the deck caulking but here I will digress and use boxwood for the decking and deck hardware.  I also will replace the chain for the anchors w/heavy cord for the cables.  I just have a hard time seeing that chain run down the deck and not demolish everything in it's way.  If this is correct for the chain, please someone let me know.  Looking forward to your progress.

Rick😎

Thank you RickyGene, been away from the project for a couple of weeks due to work and the general heat wave. looking forward to getting back on track and working my way through the rigging. As for the painting, anything from me would be guess work with a wood model. But it would seem likely the thinner the paint/ink the more the grain would remain. Is there a black varnish? I have been form the start looking up everything I can find on line about anything to do with models of the Terror, one was on youtube by a German (I think?) builder. Its not in English but he does show how he coloured and weathered the deck.

 

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You just gotta love HULU.  I am  watching AMC's Mini Series The Terror.  Have the ability to stop the show anywhere and study details of the ship.  The same fella that Occre used his drawings of the HMS Terror was also on the set when the ships were constructed for the series.  And right there on the deck are those chains, so chains it is.  Am making notes and little sketch's of details not present on the kit.  And there are several areas that those details can be used.  Have found what I was seeking about dyes, and that will be the way too go.  Now the next thing to figure out, is the added metal plates as comes in the kit.  They are very stiff, so looking @ alternate material for this detail.  I have a large spare parts box of fittings and I plan to change the way the deadeyes are attached/stropped.  All these ideas and have not glued the 1st piece yet.

Rick

PS:  Thanks for the video.

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sir francis haddock, I thought I would share a little detail I came across today that blew my socks off.  I had seen a drawing of the 1845 fit for the HMS Terror and noticed them, but wrote it off.  Then I came across a photo today of the Terror on the ocean floor after being discovered and look what was laying on the deck timbers.   Easy enough little detail one could add if so wished.

I should be posting some photos soon of where I am at in my build.

Rick

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On 8/9/2019 at 1:59 AM, RickyGene said:

sir francis haddock, I thought I would share a little detail I came across today that blew my socks off.  I had seen a drawing of the 1845 fit for the HMS Terror and noticed them, but wrote it off.  Then I came across a photo today of the Terror on the ocean floor after being discovered and look what was laying on the deck timbers.   Easy enough little detail one could add if so wished.

I should be posting some photos soon of where I am at in my build.

Rick

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Well spotted, I had read somewhere that the Terror had 2 cannons and 2 swivel guns. When I was ordering some extra parts from occre they had 2 sizes of extra cannons on there website. I did get 2 of the largest size but they aren't right for the age of the ship. (But I now have 2 model  cannons do I'm happy) Cornwall models I found later, has a larger range of cannons and barrels. But not sure if I want to add more to the deck.

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