flyer Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share #151 Posted June 9, 2013 Hi ZyXuz Thank you for that valuable hint. In fact I tried something similar during the first repair. But because I left all the shrouds and the stays in place I was only able to insert a perhaps 1cm long piece of wire into the mast. I gave not enough strength and broke again. Hence the replacement with an all new topmast. Otherwise I’m sure that your method could save many a broken spar. Cheers Peter ZyXuz 1 Quote current build: The Naval Cutter Alert by flyer - Vanguard Models - scale 1:64 completed builds: HMS Bellerophon by flyer - Victory Models - scale 1:72 Yacht America by flyer - Mamoli - scale 1:66 - with some alterations Dolphyn Corel 1/50 Wasa Corel 1/75 La Gloire C.Mamoli 1/90 HM Bomb Vessel Granado JoTiKa HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 CC kit 1:64 Victory Models 1/64 HMS Pegasus by Flyer HMS Pickle, my interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share #152 Posted June 9, 2013 The broken topmast and its cap were dismantled. I left the Shrouds etc. fixed to their dead eyes but I will have to set them up again with new lanyards. At least it shall be possible to keep the ratlines and the deadeyes. The new mizzen topmast and a new cap are ready to replace the broken parts. I decided against making an all new mizzen top from scratch – I’ve got a lot of extra work already and am too lazy to double or triple it The captain musters the new topmast and cap The mizzen top ready for a new topmast The new parts provisionally in place . dafi and ZyXuz 2 Quote current build: The Naval Cutter Alert by flyer - Vanguard Models - scale 1:64 completed builds: HMS Bellerophon by flyer - Victory Models - scale 1:72 Yacht America by flyer - Mamoli - scale 1:66 - with some alterations Dolphyn Corel 1/50 Wasa Corel 1/75 La Gloire C.Mamoli 1/90 HM Bomb Vessel Granado JoTiKa HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 CC kit 1:64 Victory Models 1/64 HMS Pegasus by Flyer HMS Pickle, my interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted June 9, 2013 Share #153 Posted June 9, 2013 It didn't take you too long to get back on the go after your mishap. Looks good, hopefully nothing more will go amiss. Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris watton Posted June 9, 2013 Share #154 Posted June 9, 2013 Next in line was the fore topgallant yard. Here the dimensions in the plan are in agreement with what I found in James Lees’. It was a straightforward job. New pillar in place IMG_3027.jpg I’ll have to scratch away the superfluous CA glue IMG_3030.jpg Those nasty pillars still haunt me. So much so that if I don't have the exact height and diameter, I not have them laser cut for the profile and the modeller then just has to file/sand the corners smooth - they then look much better. Nice job, by the way, I enjoyed looking through your build Quote Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer Posted June 10, 2013 Author Share #155 Posted June 10, 2013 Hi Andy Yes, if the beast throws you off, you have to go back into the saddle again as fast as possible. I guess that’s also true for flying horses. Cheers Peter realworkingsailor 1 Quote current build: The Naval Cutter Alert by flyer - Vanguard Models - scale 1:64 completed builds: HMS Bellerophon by flyer - Victory Models - scale 1:72 Yacht America by flyer - Mamoli - scale 1:66 - with some alterations Dolphyn Corel 1/50 Wasa Corel 1/75 La Gloire C.Mamoli 1/90 HM Bomb Vessel Granado JoTiKa HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 CC kit 1:64 Victory Models 1/64 HMS Pegasus by Flyer HMS Pickle, my interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer Posted June 10, 2013 Author Share #156 Posted June 10, 2013 Hi Chris Thanks for the compliments. Haunted by those pillars…what a blood-curdling thought… No, seriously, it’s much easier than I thought to make a replacement yourself and to patch up that little mistake. Of course there are some small possibilities for improvement in that kit, such as providing square strips (of sufficient size) for upper masts and yards or the question of the size of the mizzen top investigated by Blue Ensign, but… This is still the most wonderful kit I have been building , classes better than those from Corel or Mamoli (they are quite good) and rivaled only by Caldercrafts Granado (perhaps you happen to know the designer of that kit??!). Perfection is unaffordable – I really appreciate that you continue striving for it. Thank you Peter Martin W 1 Quote current build: The Naval Cutter Alert by flyer - Vanguard Models - scale 1:64 completed builds: HMS Bellerophon by flyer - Victory Models - scale 1:72 Yacht America by flyer - Mamoli - scale 1:66 - with some alterations Dolphyn Corel 1/50 Wasa Corel 1/75 La Gloire C.Mamoli 1/90 HM Bomb Vessel Granado JoTiKa HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 CC kit 1:64 Victory Models 1/64 HMS Pegasus by Flyer HMS Pickle, my interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZyXuz Posted June 10, 2013 Share #157 Posted June 10, 2013 good to see them restored!! Quote Visit My Blog! http://malaysiamodelship.blogspot.com/ Previous Build: HMS Race Horse (Sergal) Current Build: HMS Unicorn (Corel) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted June 11, 2013 Share #158 Posted June 11, 2013 Hi Peter, Great fix my friend, back on track again, well done. Murphy was from the Republic of Ireland I believe but the fact he was Irish is sometimes enough. mobbsie Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted June 11, 2013 Share #159 Posted June 11, 2013 It's looking good. Chances are that when it's all done, you'll completely forget about having to do a repair -- you'll just remember that you enjoyed the build. Cheers,\ Martin Quote Current Build: HMS FLY 1776 Previous Builds: Rattlesnake 1781 Prince de Neufchatel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share #160 Posted June 11, 2013 Hi Mobbsie According to the web he was probably an American aerospace engineer, Major Edward A. Murphy Jr. But whatever he was, I’m really glad it seems he was not associated with the development of the Swiss army knife. A point for us Swiss. Hi Martin Yes, it’s finished now and it really was an interesting little project. Fortunately only one ratline had to be retied. Cheers Peter Quote current build: The Naval Cutter Alert by flyer - Vanguard Models - scale 1:64 completed builds: HMS Bellerophon by flyer - Victory Models - scale 1:72 Yacht America by flyer - Mamoli - scale 1:66 - with some alterations Dolphyn Corel 1/50 Wasa Corel 1/75 La Gloire C.Mamoli 1/90 HM Bomb Vessel Granado JoTiKa HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 CC kit 1:64 Victory Models 1/64 HMS Pegasus by Flyer HMS Pickle, my interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share #161 Posted June 11, 2013 The New topmast could be set up using the existing rope work. Initially the top cap was left off so the shrouds and stays could slip over the new mast. Then they were set up with the old deadeyes and new lanyards. Only one ratline broke and had to be retied. Now it’s better than new and it was an interesting piece of work. The captain checks the new topmast from the main top Backstays are in place again A last critical gaze from the captain – all is well dafi, Mirabell61, Padeen and 1 other 4 Quote current build: The Naval Cutter Alert by flyer - Vanguard Models - scale 1:64 completed builds: HMS Bellerophon by flyer - Victory Models - scale 1:72 Yacht America by flyer - Mamoli - scale 1:66 - with some alterations Dolphyn Corel 1/50 Wasa Corel 1/75 La Gloire C.Mamoli 1/90 HM Bomb Vessel Granado JoTiKa HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 CC kit 1:64 Victory Models 1/64 HMS Pegasus by Flyer HMS Pickle, my interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted June 14, 2013 Share #162 Posted June 14, 2013 Nice fix Peter, well done B.E. Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer Posted June 16, 2013 Author Share #163 Posted June 16, 2013 Thank you, B.E. By hindsight it actually was fun. Peter Quote current build: The Naval Cutter Alert by flyer - Vanguard Models - scale 1:64 completed builds: HMS Bellerophon by flyer - Victory Models - scale 1:72 Yacht America by flyer - Mamoli - scale 1:66 - with some alterations Dolphyn Corel 1/50 Wasa Corel 1/75 La Gloire C.Mamoli 1/90 HM Bomb Vessel Granado JoTiKa HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 CC kit 1:64 Victory Models 1/64 HMS Pegasus by Flyer HMS Pickle, my interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted June 16, 2013 Share #164 Posted June 16, 2013 Just found your log. Nice recovery on the mast Peter and brilliant previous work there. Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsaplala Posted June 18, 2013 Share #165 Posted June 18, 2013 Very nice fix on the mast, Peter, it looks great I think it was sort of a blessing in disguise that it happened this early, imagine how it would have been if it snapped when all the running rigging is already in place Quote Best regards,AldoCurrently Building: HMS Pegasus (Victory Models)-Mothballed to give priority to Triton HMS Triton (first attempt at scratchbuilding) Past build:HM Brig Badger (Caldercraft), HM Brig Cruizer, HM Schooner Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted June 18, 2013 Share #166 Posted June 18, 2013 I see you took care of business.... nice job Peter, looks like new Frank Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share #167 Posted June 19, 2013 Hi Timmo Thank you, but isn’t brilliant a bit shiny? Hi Aldo Thanks, but no, I’d rather not. Hi Frank Thanks mate, but I’m a bit unsure – considering the way you make your ship appear - if ‘looks like new’, coming from you, really is a compliment. Take care Peter riverboat 1 Quote current build: The Naval Cutter Alert by flyer - Vanguard Models - scale 1:64 completed builds: HMS Bellerophon by flyer - Victory Models - scale 1:72 Yacht America by flyer - Mamoli - scale 1:66 - with some alterations Dolphyn Corel 1/50 Wasa Corel 1/75 La Gloire C.Mamoli 1/90 HM Bomb Vessel Granado JoTiKa HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 CC kit 1:64 Victory Models 1/64 HMS Pegasus by Flyer HMS Pickle, my interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted June 20, 2013 Share #168 Posted June 20, 2013 That's an impressive fix Peter, very well done. You have some lovely rigging there as well, no wonder the Captain is looking happy. Keep up the great work. mobbsie Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share #169 Posted June 21, 2013 Thank you Mobbsie Quote current build: The Naval Cutter Alert by flyer - Vanguard Models - scale 1:64 completed builds: HMS Bellerophon by flyer - Victory Models - scale 1:72 Yacht America by flyer - Mamoli - scale 1:66 - with some alterations Dolphyn Corel 1/50 Wasa Corel 1/75 La Gloire C.Mamoli 1/90 HM Bomb Vessel Granado JoTiKa HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 CC kit 1:64 Victory Models 1/64 HMS Pegasus by Flyer HMS Pickle, my interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share #170 Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) Now the work on the main topgallant mast could continue. The shrouds were a straightforward job (no ratlines!!!!!). The size of the backstays had to be corrected. Again they should be made of the same rope as the stay. The lower ends however presented a problem. According to the plan and James Lees a thimble should be used. As such parts are not provided with the kit I used a small dead eye on the backstay of the mizzen topmast but this looks somewhat oversized. Now I tried to simulate it with just an eye split. But this looks wrong as well. Therefore I ordered the smallest thimbles available from cornwallmodellboats and will have a try. While waiting for them I started fixing the spare spars with some hidden nails in preparation for placing the ships boats. Those will be Caldercrafts 24’ cutter and 19’ launch. Work on main topgallant mast has been stopped after the first backstay Unsatisfactory lower backstay end with spliced eye Mizzen topmast backstay with rather large deadeye Spare spars in place and shells of boats placed provisionally Edited April 1, 2014 by flyer Padeen and dafi 2 Quote current build: The Naval Cutter Alert by flyer - Vanguard Models - scale 1:64 completed builds: HMS Bellerophon by flyer - Victory Models - scale 1:72 Yacht America by flyer - Mamoli - scale 1:66 - with some alterations Dolphyn Corel 1/50 Wasa Corel 1/75 La Gloire C.Mamoli 1/90 HM Bomb Vessel Granado JoTiKa HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 CC kit 1:64 Victory Models 1/64 HMS Pegasus by Flyer HMS Pickle, my interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted June 25, 2013 Share #171 Posted June 25, 2013 Peter, Hi. I discovered your Pegasus when you were kind enough to visit my build just as I was leaving for a few weeks. I'm back and I went through your log from page 1. You are such an artist. I would not know where to begin with the accolades.Your attention to details, that you replicate so well are a joy to look at. Wao!! Super nice. I'm happy that I found your ship. I will certainly copy some of your details especially when I start the masts and rigging. Beautiful project. I look forward to your updates. Regards, Michael Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted June 25, 2013 Share #172 Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) Peter, OH I just thought of something....have you been to this AMAZING place?? Watch it in 1080 and full screen (:-) Michael (It's on my list) Edited June 25, 2013 by md1400cs Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer Posted June 26, 2013 Author Share #173 Posted June 26, 2013 Hi Michael You are overdoing the compliments a bit (but I like it). :blush: :blush: I’ve heard of that other place in Hamburg from a friend, but only about the model railroad, not that airport. Amazing is the word! Cheers Peter Quote current build: The Naval Cutter Alert by flyer - Vanguard Models - scale 1:64 completed builds: HMS Bellerophon by flyer - Victory Models - scale 1:72 Yacht America by flyer - Mamoli - scale 1:66 - with some alterations Dolphyn Corel 1/50 Wasa Corel 1/75 La Gloire C.Mamoli 1/90 HM Bomb Vessel Granado JoTiKa HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 CC kit 1:64 Victory Models 1/64 HMS Pegasus by Flyer HMS Pickle, my interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer Posted July 7, 2013 Author Share #174 Posted July 7, 2013 The standing rigging on the main mast was now finished. Amati’s 2,5 mm deadeye with a single hole seemed worth a try as wooden thimbles. They look ok. The bosun is happy about the new thimbles. Installing the crowfoot on the main top I saw that I had made 2 mistakes on the mizzen: First I took the wrong (0,2) thread and for the euphroe block I only took one photo etched part while you better use the two identical parts together, glued back on back. I will have to rig the mizzen crowfoot again. Main top with finished standing rigging Ascending to the main top Main topmast trestletrees Foot of the foremast with topmast stay and preventer stay Mirabell61, Blue Ensign, jaerschen and 1 other 4 Quote current build: The Naval Cutter Alert by flyer - Vanguard Models - scale 1:64 completed builds: HMS Bellerophon by flyer - Victory Models - scale 1:72 Yacht America by flyer - Mamoli - scale 1:66 - with some alterations Dolphyn Corel 1/50 Wasa Corel 1/75 La Gloire C.Mamoli 1/90 HM Bomb Vessel Granado JoTiKa HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 CC kit 1:64 Victory Models 1/64 HMS Pegasus by Flyer HMS Pickle, my interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsaplala Posted July 17, 2013 Share #175 Posted July 17, 2013 Beautiful rigging and masting work as always, Peter, the mast looks good as new after your repair Quote Best regards,AldoCurrently Building: HMS Pegasus (Victory Models)-Mothballed to give priority to Triton HMS Triton (first attempt at scratchbuilding) Past build:HM Brig Badger (Caldercraft), HM Brig Cruizer, HM Schooner Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted July 17, 2013 Share #176 Posted July 17, 2013 Hi Peter nice work on the rigging one tip leave as much space in the middle as possible, do not fix the spare spars and boats till as late as you can, it gets very crowded, as there is so much rigging to tie off in small spaces. Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share #177 Posted July 19, 2013 Hi Aldo Thanks for looking in. I got the impression that you are taking a break in the work on your Pegasus, concentrating on your wonderful Triton. Another one lost to the dark art of scratch building…? Hi Ray Thank you for the sound advice. Of course it’s a bit of a dilemma – after finishing the rigging there will not be enough space to fix the spars and boats. I guess those ‘ships-in-a-bottle-problems’ are part of our hobby and you probably would meet them even if building in original size. We know it from other work areas, e.g. trying to bring the furniture into the new house and realizing you should have done it before fixing the roof… The spars are still provisionally mounted and I delay the definite fix as much as possible until I will have missed the optimal point… Take care Peter rdsaplala 1 Quote current build: The Naval Cutter Alert by flyer - Vanguard Models - scale 1:64 completed builds: HMS Bellerophon by flyer - Victory Models - scale 1:72 Yacht America by flyer - Mamoli - scale 1:66 - with some alterations Dolphyn Corel 1/50 Wasa Corel 1/75 La Gloire C.Mamoli 1/90 HM Bomb Vessel Granado JoTiKa HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 CC kit 1:64 Victory Models 1/64 HMS Pegasus by Flyer HMS Pickle, my interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer Posted July 24, 2013 Author Share #178 Posted July 24, 2013 (edited) In between the work on the masts I started on the first boat, Caldercrafts 24’ cutter. The rips were made according CC’s instructions. Contrary to them the floorboards were not mounted on the prepared piece of plywood but directly on the floor. A cockpit floor and a small ’deck’ up front (I wonder what’s that actually called?) were added. For those 2 details and a lot more information I used Chuck’s beautiful longboat as source – thank you, Chuck. The rowlocks were filed into the side as per CC’s instruction. Further detailing of the boats interior will not be made as the smaller cutter will be stowed inside this one. For the coloring I followed mostly the instructions and just added some blue to make it ‘the blue cutter’. The rips are made from cartridge paper Floorboards are added and the risers are being glued in place Cockpit floor added (the boat sits on a copy of Chuck’s longboat- that’s a perhaps a bit impertinent) It’s now the ‘blue’ cutter Front platform added Cockpit seats added – the captain inspects the new boat Provisionally stowed – looking at those pictures I think I will have to make a kind of support to keep the boat stable on the spars Edited April 1, 2014 by flyer riverboat, Padeen, Blue Ensign and 2 others 5 Quote current build: The Naval Cutter Alert by flyer - Vanguard Models - scale 1:64 completed builds: HMS Bellerophon by flyer - Victory Models - scale 1:72 Yacht America by flyer - Mamoli - scale 1:66 - with some alterations Dolphyn Corel 1/50 Wasa Corel 1/75 La Gloire C.Mamoli 1/90 HM Bomb Vessel Granado JoTiKa HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 CC kit 1:64 Victory Models 1/64 HMS Pegasus by Flyer HMS Pickle, my interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted July 24, 2013 Share #179 Posted July 24, 2013 Lovely work on the cutter Peter, and yes you are right mate, you will have to build a support for it and lashing points. Will you be fitting it out with oars, anchor, rope ect, it all helps to bring it alive. Good work my friend. mobbsie Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted July 24, 2013 Share #180 Posted July 24, 2013 Nice details on the Blue cutter. I especially like the flooring. As for the oars, I believe Chuck had a thread -- it might have been back in the antediluvian MSW.1 -- on making oars. I followed it and got nice results, and I'm only a beginner. Cheers, Martin Quote Current Build: HMS FLY 1776 Previous Builds: Rattlesnake 1781 Prince de Neufchatel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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