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HMS Prince by pirozzi - Amati - 1:64 - Original 1978 Kit by Vince P.

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As you know, I just completed the Royal William. The Prince was a ship that was remodeled into the Royal William in the very early 1700's. Amati had a nice kit about 40 years ago of the Prince, but discontinued it long ago. I searched for a source for many years and finally found a fellow through this forum, who had the kit but never started it. I bought it from him a few years ago. Since the Royal William was a remodel of the Prince, to do a "Before and After Display" will be cool. The kit cost $600 back almost 40 years ago, so it is definitely a high end kit. As with the Royal William, I intend to greatly enhance the detail and rig her with full sails. There are a few modern kits available of the Prince, but none of them compare to this old kit, and the scale is big enough to go along side the Euromodel Royal William.

The kit came in a nice wood case instead of a cardboard box. Back then there was no such thing a laser cut parts, so looking at the kit, everything must be hand cut by saw and file. There are 34 bulkheads which is about double of modern kits and each and every one will have to be hand cut. I will definitely get my money's worth out of the my band and scroll saws. 😛 Virtually nothing is pre-cut. The amount of decorations appears to be quite extensive as well.

 

I am really going to enjoy this project. 

 

The first photo is from a 1980 catalog showing this kit listed.

 

Vince P. :dancetl6:

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Will be interesting to see this "old school" classic coming to life alongside some of the newer wonder-kits.

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8 minutes ago, paulsutcliffe said:

Wow, now that's a box😁

Regards

Paul 

ditto. and the amount of paper plans is cool. way better than working off a tablet with PDF plans. not that my eyes would cope  lol. going to watch this with interest. looks amazing

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Pardon the broken record on this, 

The logo does not look familiar, so this may not be the kit.

There was a kit for HMS Prince where the historical keel length was used for length of the whole model keel.

At the time of HMS Prince the given keel length was "touch" - which is a bit shorter.  It made the open main deck a bit crowded and the overall hull a bit squat looking.

 

A repair would be easy = patch in a additional length at the join and duplicate the dead flat mould.

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Wow, that's old school. Cutting out all those bulkheads to spec and getting them to align will be fun! The bulkhead and keel wood looks nice. Is it birch ply? Any warping over the years?

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I noticed a slight warp at the bow upright on the false keel. Not enough to worry about. It can be corrected during construction of the hull. Everything else looks good. I am surprised.

 

Vince

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Since there are so many bulkheads that have to be squared and each cut out by hand, I will need all the help I can get. I saw this Professional Building Slip advertised by a foreign company names Hobbyzone. I ordered one and built it. It is very sturdy and complex but is designed to facilitate constructing the framework of the hull and squaring it properly. The hull can be left in the slip once the framework is complete and the hull can be rotated in place for planking. I am going to give it a try.

All of the parts were laser cut and the construction consisted of sub-assemblies that had to be glued together. The instructions consisted of just photos in sequence. The photos are pretty small and I had to use a magnifier because it is possible to glue some of the parts in incorrect positions. Carefully examining the photos made it easy to construct without mistakes.

 

Vince P. :dancetl6:

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Wow - that is quite the kit!  My Constructo Prince is listed as 1/61 scale & 35 inches long  - seems a little short for that scale.  Does yours have a length listed?

 

Mark

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23 minutes ago, marktiedens said:

Wow - that is quite the kit!  My Constructo Prince is listed as 1/61 scale & 35 inches long  - seems a little short for that scale.  Does yours have a length listed?

 

Mark

Hi Mark,

They don't list a length but the false keel alone is 37 inches, so I would imagine with the bowsprit added and such it will go over 40 inches.

 

Vince

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5 hours ago, dvm27 said:

Wow, that's old school. Cutting out all those bulkheads to spec and getting them to align will be fun! The bulkhead and keel wood looks nice. Is it birch ply? Any warping over the years?

I looks like birch plywood. Can't say for sure but it is strong stuff.

 

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This will be interesting Vince. I will take a seat and watch with interest. Good luck and let's hope it will be a happy ship.

 

Regards

 

Henrik

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So, I completely re-arranged my workshop to prepare for building the Prince. I had my friend who is a carpenter, build cabinets to place my ship cases on and get them off the floor. Everything came out perfect and looks great.   

 

Now on to building the Prince. First up will be to cut out the false keel and all of the 34 bulkheads.

 

Vince P. :dancetl6:

 

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