Overworked724 Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share #331 Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, CPDDET said: Hopefully just a glue failure and nothing more than that. Well. The bottom of the ship didn’t fall off! 🤣 So that’s a win. 👍🏽 Edited November 19, 2020 by Overworked724 CiscoH and WalrusGuy 2 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPDDET Posted November 19, 2020 Share #332 Posted November 19, 2020 🤣 Overworked724 1 Quote Current build: NRG Half Hull Previous build: MS Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahm Posted November 19, 2020 Share #333 Posted November 19, 2020 A very clean planking job! Well done! Thomas Overworked724 1 Quote Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overworked724 Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share #334 Posted November 19, 2020 Many thanks @Gahm@WalrusGuy@CPDDET!!!! Much appreciated!!! Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overworked724 Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share #335 Posted November 19, 2020 Sanity check as a minor diversion to the tedium of the interior bulkhead planking. My plan is to lay down a false deck and use thinner wood (1/32” or 3/64”) for my planking/margin. My hope is the false deck will give me greater stability and purchase while laying down the deck as well as nibbing and joggling at the bow. Took a sample of 0.5mm birch ply and a ~3/64” cedar plank. Went ahead and glued them and measured total thickness as almost perfectly 1/16” (0.0625”). Can’t get much closer. Quite Lucky that! 👍🏽 Laid it up against the bulkhead to check distance to the sills above the deck. Relieved to see the gap between deck and sill is a comfy 1/8”. Should be sufficient room for the waterway and carronade swivel bracket without making it proud above the sill. Moving on... JpR62, WalrusGuy and abelson 3 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin P. Posted November 19, 2020 Share #336 Posted November 19, 2020 18 minutes ago, Overworked724 said: My plan is to lay down a false deck and use thinner wood (1/32” or 3/64”) for my planking/margin. My hope is the false deck will give me greater stability and purchase while laying down the deck as well as nibbing and joggling at the bow. This is a great idea. Hopefully you won't mind if I follow suit. Overworked724 1 Quote Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overworked724 Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share #337 Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) @Justin P. sure thing. No promises! I’m spitballing here! 🤣 I think I got my stash of plywood at Hobby Lobby or some other kraft shop...but they do sell it on Amazon. 1/64” birch sheets, Midwest Products 5240. It‘s a bit pricey...but a 12” x 24” sheet would be way more than enough to cover the deck. Edited November 19, 2020 by Overworked724 Justin P. and Keithbrad80 2 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niwotwill Posted November 21, 2020 Share #338 Posted November 21, 2020 Patrick the interior bulkheads around the gunport and sweep port is very amazing, great work. It looks as if there is sufficient distance between the deck and sill for the margin plank and waterway, so as not to have the same problem I had on mine. Very nice Will still on holiday Stay well and stay safe Overworked724 1 Quote Current Build: Erycina 1882 Fishing Trawler by Vanguard Models 1:64 scale Syren by pearwill Model Shipways 1:64 scale On Hold: HM Cutter Cheerful Syren Shipmodel Scratch 1:48 scale 1776 Washington Row Galley scratch scratch from NRG plans #121 1:48 scale Completed Build: Charles W. Morgan by Artesania Latina circa 1988, Lowell Grand Banks Dory 1:24 scale by Model Shipways, Norwegian.Sailing Pram 1:12 scale by Model Shipways, Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 scale by Model Shipways Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overworked724 Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share #339 Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) @niwotwill Thanks, Will! Your recent difficulty made me reassess my decking plan to ensure my measurement wasn’t off!!! Edited November 21, 2020 by Overworked724 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overworked724 Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share #340 Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) Well...COVID shutdown #2 is now in progress in Illinois. I'll refrain from political commentary or opinions on the matter, as my ship building hobby and the modeling community are truly an escape from real life! I'll just say that I pray you all stay sane, healthy, and happy during the Holidays - and that we all find 2021 to be a year where we can stand outside in the sun and feel normal once again. I think it's amazing how many build logs are helping me make decisions as I (very slowly) progress. I believe me and @Justin P. are at about the same stage in our builds. Good on you, Mate - your build is looking brilliant! The build logs from other Syren modelers - @NovaStorm @WalrusGuy @niwotwill @abelson @Gahm are continual sources of information and inspiration! As for me, I'm enjoying and learning and relearning from new Syren builds like @Redshadowrider & @Bill Gormley. I'd like to personally thank you all for your continual posts...they really are the fuel that helps keep the motor of a new modeler going. Keep up the great work and remember, it's marathon....not a sprint. Text update only. Completed the interior bulkhead planking. The sanding part is now in front of me to clean up the interior prior to painting....and I'm trying to think happy thoughts...like never having to sand again! But as I start the clean up work on the interior bulkheads, I'm thinking about the margin plank, nibbing/joggling the deck planks, the cap rails, the stern davits, the waterways along with the scuppers and haws holes for the anchor cables. Funny...the Admiral says I forget myself when I'm in the shipyard...and I do. My mind just gets filled with too many little side projects at are a ship model. LOL - what a great hobby! Moving on - with one small note ==> The fixed blocks are now locked into the bulkheads and I am very very happy with the additional time spent to make them! One tiny success...I'll take it. Moving on...damn the torpedoes! Edited November 21, 2020 by Overworked724 Gahm, WalrusGuy, CPDDET and 5 others 8 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshadowrider Posted November 21, 2020 Share #341 Posted November 21, 2020 Thanks For the thoughts Overworked, it is appreciated that I can be of help even as a newbie. And it is good to know others as yourself are quick to assist me when I have questions. I know what you are saying about the COVID issue, I still have a hard time understanding why someone laying in a hospital bed still can’t believe it’s what they have. My brother-in-law and my aunt are still on the road to recovery. With our new grandson we are remaining pretty much quarantined so we can visit again. Good luck and stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overworked724 Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share #342 Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) Took a break from the build to make a few decisions. Decided that now that I have some nice Swiss pear wood to attempt my deck furniture, I decided to rethink the wood for the deck. I was going to use cedar, but really think The contrast would be a bit stark. A Swiss pear deck would look sweet, but really want to save it for other things. Since the deck gets brutalized a lot, I’ve decided to got with boxwood which is harder than cedar. I won’t even consider basswood...the crap I got in the kit made it to the firewood scrap bucket...it’s just waiting it’s turn to burn. I have a stash of boxwood I have never used before....so what the hell. I went ahead and calculated out the rough square area of the deck (overestimating by about 20% since I figured the area as if the deck were rectangular) and milled my 1/8” wide (0.4mm thick) boxwood deck planks. I think I should have enough. While I was doing that, I also made a little ‘plank edge jig’ to hold the planks when I need to clean up the edges or use pencil simulate deck caulking without smudging up other areas of the plank. I’m really just procrastinating. I needed a break from sanding...😣. Edited November 22, 2020 by Overworked724 Justin P. and abelson 2 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPDDET Posted November 22, 2020 Share #343 Posted November 22, 2020 Jig was a great idea. When I did my deck o made somewhat of a mess with the graphite. Never worked with boxwood or pear but I'm sure looking forward to it. The hell with the sanding, you can do that when you feel like it. 😄😁 Overworked724 1 Quote Current build: NRG Half Hull Previous build: MS Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin P. Posted November 22, 2020 Share #344 Posted November 22, 2020 I agree the jig is a great idea... gonna steal that one too! Yes I think we are more or less around about the same stage. I started painting my interior bulkheads this week and have been taking it very slow. Im glad tp be setting aside the heavy sanding papers for a bit thats for sure! Im looking forward to what you do with your decking, I havent given that as much thought as you and the others have and up until this point was planning to go ahead with the basswood, now youve got me thinking... Overworked724 1 Quote Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overworked724 Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share #345 Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) Made (another) faux deck with boxwood. Same thing...just used a section of 1/32” basswood sheeting and laid out some planks using pencil to simulate caulking. No butt joints this time, just some trunnels (cedar) for effect. After I cut the piece down to slide easily (but snugly) into the second deck area...I added a dollop of natural stain to bring out the trunnels and the color. To be honest...the cedar deck (right) is still pretty damned nice. But I do like the butterscotch hue and clearly defined round shape of the trunnels of the boxwood deck (left). I’m going with boxwood this time. But it’s nice to have a backup using cedar and that wood is always available (So thankful Chuck’s model company Syren always keeps stock!) Moving on... Edited November 22, 2020 by Overworked724 CPDDET, abelson and CiscoH 3 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overworked724 Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share #346 Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) A dusty Sunday! Got the bulkhead tops roughly sanded and squared up. ...and finally attacked the sanding of the interior bulkheads. I find that using a rolled up fluffy bath towel twisted double and held with a couple rubber bands makes the perfect sanding cradle. My main weapon of choice in sanding is an adhesive backed 120 grit rotary sanding pad doubled up on itself. I trimmed it to shape to allow me easy access across the entire inner bulkhead. Nice thing is it’s thick and holds its shape if you bend it to give it good curvature to reach those curvy areas near the bow. ...and...more bonus pics... Moving on!!!! Edited November 23, 2020 by Overworked724 abelson, Keithbrad80, JpR62 and 4 others 7 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithbrad80 Posted November 23, 2020 Share #347 Posted November 23, 2020 Another awesome update! I use sanding disks as well, i cut them in half twice so i have four equal parts, this creates an even tighter sanding area. Looking great! Bradley Overworked724 1 Quote Current Builds: Flying Fish - Model Shipways - 1:96 Future Builds: Young America 1853 - Scratch Build - 1:72 Completed Builds: HMS Racehorse - Mantua - 1:47 (No pictures unfortunately) Providence Whale Boat - Artesania Latina - 1:25 (Also no pictures) Lowell Grand Banks Dory - Model Shipways - 1:24 Shelved Builds: Pride of Baltimore 2 - Model Shipways - 1:64 (Also no pictures) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPDDET Posted November 23, 2020 Share #348 Posted November 23, 2020 I'm really impressed with your progress. Crisp, clean, well defined. I'm jealous 😜. Carry on Patrick! Overworked724 1 Quote Current build: NRG Half Hull Previous build: MS Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahm Posted November 23, 2020 Share #349 Posted November 23, 2020 Excellent work! Very clean precise build! Thomas Overworked724 1 Quote Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overworked724 Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share #350 Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) Well...was bound to happen.... Was drilling the holes on the exterior bulkhead for the scuppers. Slipped and gouged one of the holes pretty badly. I could have clean it up best I could and lived with it...but since I screwed up I thought I would test the old adage “Wood is forgiving!”...a phrase so many of my fellow modelers are fond of saying. Surgery for the mulligan attempt went like this... ...we’ll see how my repeat attempt to drill out that scupper works before I say the adage is true. 😣 ...Going to bed. Edited November 24, 2020 by Overworked724 NovaStorm and CiscoH 2 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPDDET Posted November 24, 2020 Share #351 Posted November 24, 2020 Nice recovery, Pat. Overworked724 and WalrusGuy 1 1 Quote Current build: NRG Half Hull Previous build: MS Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overworked724 Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share #352 Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) Ok. Wood ‘filler’ is forgiving. Wood not so much. 🤨 Redrilled the errant scupper on starboard side. It’s passable but not perfect...but the chainplates will obscure any imperfections. I’ll note a deviation here from the plans. There should be 5 scuppers in a row on each side starting back from the second sweep hole near the bow. I skipped the hole adjacent to the main mast because I put a butt joint directly beneath that sweep hole on both sides. Symmetry for the win...not. It would have looked like crap if I drilled the scupper in the middle of a butt joint...and the steps/rails near that sweep made putting it in off center a non-starter. Head Bang #1!!! Note to future self...read the bloody plans. Ah, well...artistic license for the win!!! Moving on... Edited November 24, 2020 by Overworked724 mtbediz, NovaStorm, Gahm and 4 others 7 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaStorm Posted November 24, 2020 Share #353 Posted November 24, 2020 I won't tell anyone Pat, honest Overworked724 and WalrusGuy 2 Quote ... I'm a broken man on a Halifax pier The last of Barrett's Privateers ~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overworked724 Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share #354 Posted November 24, 2020 55 minutes ago, NovaStorm said: I won't tell anyone Pat, honest Thanks, Robin! 🤫. But it’s going to be glaring at me every time I look at it! The admiral looks at my Sultana and says, “It’s perfect!” ...and I see so many things I messed up or covered up! 🤣 I can see now...my Syren will be no different. But that’s our hobby! Gotta love it. 👍🏽 Justin P., NovaStorm and WalrusGuy 2 1 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abelson Posted November 24, 2020 Share #355 Posted November 24, 2020 Very nice, crisp and clean work. Your perfectionism shows. Justin P. and Overworked724 1 1 Quote Steven E. Sylven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalrusGuy Posted November 24, 2020 Share #356 Posted November 24, 2020 Patrick, are you planning on drilling the scuppers through the hull? Or part way like the instructions suggest? I went ahead to drill part way since I was scared of messing things up... Overworked724 and Justin P. 2 Quote Current: USF Confederacy - Model Shipways (Build Log) HMS Pickle - Caldercraft (Build Log) Complete: Virgina 1819 - Artesania Latina (Gallery) U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways (Build Log, Gallery) On the shelf: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overworked724 Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share #357 Posted November 24, 2020 56 minutes ago, WalrusGuy said: Patrick, are you planning on drilling the scuppers through the hull? Or part way like the instructions suggest? I went ahead to drill part way since I was scared of messing things up... I went all the way through. My original (finger quote) "plan" was to use copper tubing to fit into the scuppers but it was just too difficult to gauge accurately. This was why I was doing this now versus after painting and planking the deck. But...best laid plans so to speak....The scuppers will be as they are...dark holes! LOL The holes which popped through the other side will be below deck level or covered by the triangular piece which makes up the waterways. Justin P. and WalrusGuy 2 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin P. Posted November 24, 2020 Share #358 Posted November 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Overworked724 said: But it’s going to be glaring at me every time I look at it! Perhaps now you now which side of the ship will be displayed? Great recovery though. Now dont mind me as I fret over this in addition to every other upcoming step Overworked724 1 Quote Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overworked724 Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share #359 Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) Well, making cap rails are easy in principal....not in practice. The grain of the cedar is problematic in making a clean edge on the curved part near the bow. Considering I have a cheapie scroll saw that bounces all over the counter under high revs, my options for tools in making these are limited...😤 Moving on to an evening glass of wine. 🍺 Edited November 25, 2020 by Overworked724 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPDDET Posted November 25, 2020 Share #360 Posted November 25, 2020 Always good to walk away, sip some wine and let things simmer in the back of one's mind. A solution usually pops up. Overworked724 1 Quote Current build: NRG Half Hull Previous build: MS Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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