mugje Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share #151 Posted October 15, 2019 Not the most pretty knot...but we all need to start somewhere 😁 Old Collingwood, Ryland Craze, Retired guy and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lazy Saint Posted October 15, 2019 Share #152 Posted October 15, 2019 Hi mugje, Looking great, and so does the knot. best wishes as always, the Lazy Saint. mugje 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share #153 Posted October 15, 2019 Tnx Lazy Saint! Do you always make new diluted glue for the knots when you need it? Or do you make it once and store it somehow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lazy Saint Posted October 15, 2019 Share #154 Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) Hi mugje, I have a small Jam Jar that l use. In the jar itself l have my diluted glue, l assess this each time l use it, maybe adding a little water if it has started to thicken. In the lid l have a little neat glue and l use a brush to apply both thick and thinned glue. When l have finished the gluing job l have done l put the lid on and it keeps fresh. Hope this helps. Best wishes as always, The Lazy Saint. Edited October 15, 2019 by The Lazy Saint mugje, Retired guy, J11 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share #155 Posted October 15, 2019 That's a great idea! Tnx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share #156 Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) I wasn't happy with how the knots of the lanyards turned out. It was to sloppy and it irritated me. I had already knotted about 6 of them but cut everything loose. And searched how it could be done better and neater. I took a look in the practicum of the Syren from Chuck Passaro. He uses the cow hitch, or lark knot for that. With a lot of practice it became this, which i'm very happy with. Way more neater then the first effort! Edited October 17, 2019 by mugje Retired guy, GrandpaPhil, J11 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted October 20, 2019 Author Share #157 Posted October 20, 2019 The lower shrouds are finally done. After retrying a few times i'm happy how it turned out 🙂 The lanyards could a bit tighter, but it's not to bad in my opinion for now. J11, Edwardkenway, GrandpaPhil and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted October 20, 2019 Author Share #158 Posted October 20, 2019 Next step is knotting the ratlines. Caldercraft supplied for this 0.10 naturel thread that need to be stained black when it's knotted against the lower shrouds. Why they didn't supplied black thread in the first place? I don't know. Or is it mean't to be more authentic? Because they tarred it maybe? 🤔 Old Collingwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer Posted October 20, 2019 Share #159 Posted October 20, 2019 Nobody offers 0,1mm black thread, don't know why. However if you stick to the principle that standing rigging was tarred and running not, then the lanyards probably should be natural. Today's historical ships show them usually black but I'm not altogether sure about that. Mine nevertheless are died black. Another point - which might come a bit late: Having the deadeyes all exactly on the same level looks nice and tidy but for an efficiently working support of the mast it's more important that all the shrouds have the right and an equal tension. So I put this in first priority and if after retying about two times a height different remains but the tension on all the shrouds is about right I leave it like that, hoping that on en efficiently run prototype it was done the same way. I guess if there was time in harbour the skipper would have the deadeyes levelled out again but while sailing there would be a continuous adjusting of the tension but no time for adjusting the deadeyes as well. The tension also helps when tying the ratlines and when you have to attach blocks for running rigging to the shrouds. Keep up the fantastic work! Peter mugje and Old Collingwood 2 Quote current build: The Naval Cutter Alert by flyer - Vanguard Models - scale 1:64 completed builds: HMS Bellerophon by flyer - Victory Models - scale 1:72 Yacht America by flyer - Mamoli - scale 1:66 - with some alterations Dolphyn Corel 1/50 Wasa Corel 1/75 La Gloire C.Mamoli 1/90 HM Bomb Vessel Granado JoTiKa HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 CC kit 1:64 Victory Models 1/64 HMS Pegasus by Flyer HMS Pickle, my interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted October 20, 2019 Author Share #160 Posted October 20, 2019 Thanks for the elaborate answer and compliment Peter, and everybody tnx for the likes. Good point on the tightness of the lanyards/shrouds. I'm making a mental note in my head for the next time i'm going trough that process. With building a model there are often questions about authenticity or just good looking for the modeller. Old Collingwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lazy Saint Posted October 20, 2019 Share #161 Posted October 20, 2019 Hi mugje, They look pretty good to me, infact the whole build is shaping up wonderfully. Keep up the good work. Best wishes as always, The Lazy Saint. Old Collingwood and mugje 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share #162 Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) Busy with the ratlines! The first batch ready, it wasn't easy but i'm pretty happy with the result. The only thing is, that there is a twist in it, from top to bottom. Probably because of the paint and glue that added some stiffness to the whole. Anyone an idea what I can do about that? Or is there in this stage nothing what I can do to fix this? On the second not so sharp picture you can see the problem. Edited October 25, 2019 by mugje egkb, Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted October 26, 2019 Share #163 Posted October 26, 2019 Great work, thought this might be of interest - thetrafalgarway.org OC. mugje 1 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share #164 Posted October 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Old Collingwood said: Great work, thought this might be of interest - thetrafalgarway.org OC. Tnx! There's a whole story about the Pickle, that's nice!👍 Old Collingwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share #165 Posted October 26, 2019 I've tightened the lanyards, and the twist is almost gone. It looks much better, also the lanyards. So...a bit extra work on top of tying the ratlines...but that's part of the learning process. GrandpaPhil, J11, Dubz and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share #166 Posted October 26, 2019 egkb, Old Collingwood, J11 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share #167 Posted October 31, 2019 Slowly and steady progress...taking my time with the ratlines Kikatinalong, J11, egkb and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidG Posted October 31, 2019 Share #168 Posted October 31, 2019 great work so far coming late into the diluted glue question... but I use the cut bottom of an ordinary beer can. there is a recess around it's circumference (where I put water) and a bump in the middle (where i put glue). this way they can be mixed on demand by a brush. after work I wash it and put away. mugje, J11 and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Past builds: Prins Willem, Amati Coca Current Build: Occre Diana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share #169 Posted October 31, 2019 Tnx for the tip David!👍 Old Collingwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share #170 Posted November 1, 2019 I will have to make an eye splice in the middle of the rope...let me see if I understand this correct. The manual says: "For the foremast, to begin, measure an 850mm length of 0.5mm black thread. Using a length of 0.25mm black thread, form an eye splice at the mid pointof the 850mm length of 0.5mm black thread to form an eye of approximately 6mm in diameter". How would attach this eye at the 0.5mm black main thread? Just a loop like this ___!___ with the O on top? Or like -----O-----? Maybe I need to shoot some photos to explain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted November 2, 2019 Share #171 Posted November 2, 2019 5 hours ago, mugje said: I will have to make an eye splice in the middle of the rope...let me see if I understand this correct. The manual says: "For the foremast, to begin, measure an 850mm length of 0.5mm black thread. Using a length of 0.25mm black thread, form an eye splice at the mid pointof the 850mm length of 0.5mm black thread to form an eye of approximately 6mm in diameter". How would attach this eye at the 0.5mm black main thread? Just a loop like this ___!___ with the O on top? Or like -----O-----? Maybe I need to shoot some photos to explain... Yes please, hard to grasp with photos. OC. Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted November 2, 2019 Author Share #172 Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) On 11/2/2019 at 1:21 AM, Old Collingwood said: Yes please, hard to grasp with photos. OC. Offcourse the knots are overscale executed, and probably wrong...but it's more clear I hope. It's the top shroud that rests on the hounds at the top of the mast. Personally I think I need to use the left eye splice? Edited November 3, 2019 by mugje Old Collingwood, KARAVOKIRIS, GrandpaPhil and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share #173 Posted November 3, 2019 Ratlines are done! Nice to notice that you get very proficient at tying the ratlines at the end...😊 BLACK VIKING, egkb, Retired guy and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J11 Posted November 3, 2019 Share #174 Posted November 3, 2019 Nice clean ties and excellent representation. mugje and Retired guy 2 Quote Current build project: CSS Alabama 1/96 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20148-css-alabama-by-jonathan11-revell-196-scale-kit-bash-90-historical-accuracy/ Finished build projects 2018: H.L Hunley 1/24 CSS Arkansas 1/96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share #175 Posted November 3, 2019 Tnx Jonathan! J11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norway Posted November 3, 2019 Share #176 Posted November 3, 2019 Pristine work mugje... You are so much faster than me with the Pickle build. Can't find as much time for my build as i wish with work and family. I'm doing foremast channels now. Very nice to follow your build. KARAVOKIRIS, J11 and mugje 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share #177 Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, SpyGlass said: Just catching up - you are getting along great. On the subject of foot ropes here is a pic of the real thing in action - somewhat larger vessel than Pickle of course .and on a modern vessel about Pickles size Note the overlap of sections of foot rope in both Tnx Spyglass, and great pics! That's helpful Old Collingwood and J11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share #178 Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Norway said: Pristine work mugje... You are so much faster than me with the Pickle build. Can't find as much time for my build as i wish with work and family. I'm doing foremast channels now. Very nice to follow your build. Tnx! You're ship also does look great! Nice clean work👍 I have at the moment not a job so a bit more free time 😉 Edited November 3, 2019 by mugje Old Collingwood and J11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share #179 Posted November 4, 2019 Just ordered the HMS Pegasus from Amati for my second build at Cornwall modelships The doubt was between the Syren, Granado and Pegasus...but in the end, the Pegasus was just the most appealing to me. Big step forward in complexity, but I think I can manage it with the help of the forum Dubz, Old Collingwood, J11 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norway Posted November 4, 2019 Share #180 Posted November 4, 2019 Seems like we follow the same path... I have my Pegasus kit lying ready for my next bulid 😂 Which could be a looong time before i get started regarding my slow progress.... mugje and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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