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It depends on whether you're looking for true PoF or not. BlueJacket offer the Baltimore clipper Jefferson Davis, and though the ad copy says "true plank on frame", I believe it is actually modified from actual practice. Makes a great model, though.

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2 hours ago, ccoyle said:

It depends on whether you're looking for true PoF or not. BlueJacket offer the Baltimore clipper Jefferson Davis, and though the ad copy says "true plank on frame", I believe it is actually modified from actual practice. Makes a great model, though.

Likewise, the Bluejacket America is POF...

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38 minutes ago, Gregory said:

Likewise, the Bluejacket America is POF...

At least the larger one is.  I've lost momentum working on mine, though see my build log (in the signature) for a look at it.

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Depends on how large a boat you are talking about.  Several manufactures including Model Shipways, Master Korabel and I think Dusek make PoF models of open boats.

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The Lumberyard products are more correctly termed "semi-kits". They include some laser cut parts and milled stock (described in more detail at their website), but there is a significant amount of what is essentially scratch-building involved.

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The Model Shipways Emma C. Berry is a POF. I believe it is also a true POF. The Bluejacket 1/96th Bluenose, is a semi POF, as not all the frames on the original are included in the plans or kit. As for the BJ 1/48th BN and the JD, I have no knowledge of them.

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Uhhhh, this isn’t a kit? Or is it not  available?https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18289-hms-halifax-1768-by-alde-lumberyard-kit-148-scale-based-on-harold-hahn-drawings-and-book/?tab=comments#comment-562745

I’m pretty sure Dave has a POF Gunboat kit also, but I could be wrong.....

 

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To essay as to why this search may be a dry hole

 

The two "POF" schooner kits -  Are not what an actual POF hull would be.  They appear to be at best 1/3 room and 2/3 space. Almost a cartoon, if the frames are left unplanked.

 

The Hahn method - a modeler's convention - not a reproduction of actual hull framing is 1/2 room and 1/2 space.

The actual framing - from the early 18th century until 1860 was individual to the ship and country of origin.  An average - would

be closer to 2/3 room and 1/3 space.  The other extreme - with some Continental frigates - all room except for all but invisible air circulation gaps.

Framing these as built and showing the frames - it would  be essentially a solid vertical wall - not visually interesting at all.  Leaving out every other 

bend - a more interesting hull.  Since this is Hahn's period of interest, perhaps this is a source for his style.

 

It is my experience that a true POF hull - either done using a modeler's convention style e.g. Hahn/ Navy Board or actually mimicking the

the actual vessel would be difficult to mass produce.  It is labor intensive,  No two parts are identical.  Current methods - especially Hahn or Navy Board -

have a high waste factor in timber wood stock - almost profligate.  And the wood species needed for the timbers can be expensive. 

In actual practice,  a first rate almost required a forest to frame.  In England, the first real one was so expensive,  the tax revolt was a tipping point for a 

major change in governance.  The requirements for timber stock for a model in the larger scale range almost feels as significant.

 

With the methods in current use,  about the only short cut is to start with a set of plans or monograph with the individual frames already lofted.

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Lou, you're right.... that is a kit.   I thought (last time I checked some time ago) all they had were "timbering sets" for the hull.

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Can’t believe one has recommended the best plank on frame company....Our very own Syren ship mode company has 2 of the best plank on frame models currently available.  Both the Queen Anne Barge and the Longboat kits fit the bill

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Greg , thats the one I was thinking of. It's Chinese so I would expect some friction from MRG. There is a build log on the Alert so maybe some of the Chinese manufacturers have figured it out

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