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I am currently building the victory (Amati) Lady Nelson kit, which is a lovely kit indeed ( i will upload soon a building log & photos to share)

right now i encountered a problem with the deck planking, because sadly there is no such thing in Lady Nelson instructions. 

So i need your help at this point, if someone here has a plan to share of how to lay the deck planking of this particular model

BTW i tried to read the manual of Ulises Victoria but still didn't really figure out what to do!

David

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David,

Planking for the upper decks and quarter decks for all vessel sizes shown in The Ship Builder's Repository 1788 and Steel's Elements of Naval Architecture show planking thickness of 3" with one exception for a small sloop with 2 1/2" thick planks on the QD.  Based on the photo of the model of Lady Nelson 1799 at the RMG (below) with a single deck from bow to stern, and a length of a little over 50 feet, I suspect there could be as few as 2 pieces or perhaps 3 per strake.  With three it will be easier to have the butts in a 3 or 4 plank shift and still have lengths that would be reasonable in full size work.   Of course breaks would occur at the hatches and other openings for masts &c.  Considering the time frame, there is likely a waterway and may have at least the forward ends of the strakes of the flat  joggled into the waterway.  If there is a water way, the outboard edge would be an inch thicker than the inboard edge.   Width of the water way should be in the neighborhood of 10" or 11" and the strakes of the  flat should be about 8 or 9 inches wide.   Hope this is at least a little help to you.  There are likely others here with more knowledge on this type of craft.

Allan

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There are several build logs for Lady Nelson.

 

Here is one example with a link to the deck Planking..  Lady Nelson by vossiewulf

 

Some people choose not to go with as much detail as in that log,  and just go with straight planks dressed out with the waterway, and not the margin planks.

Most kits do not include details like margin planks in the plans.

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Also notice that on the model shown above, the planking is not parallel throughout, but tapers fore and aft outside of the central deck furniture. This was usual until the use of power sawmills in the early to mid 1800's. 'Joggling' into the waterway was also a 19th century development. Before that, planks were 'hooked' into each other at their ends instead. However, most models simplify planking patterns.

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16 minutes ago, Jim Rogers said:

Go to ‘More’ above in the banner, press Articles Data Base, Press Planking and  viola Butt Shift Plan and decking calculator.

I believe KingDavid mentioned that in the OP.

 

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BTW i tried to read the manual of Ulises Victoria but still didn't really figure out what to do!

 

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Thank you so much for your fast and detailed answers ..more than anything, i think a real deck plan for such a detailed model could have been nice,

 

so i appreciate your different views, i believe it will help somehow to solve this issue in order to move forward!

 

BTW just learned a new word 'joggling' :-)

 

David

 

 

 

 

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Hello Allan i read again your reply!

 

So, i read it again...

 

And I guess that the measurement that you indicated for the planking is in Inches, do you know how much would it be in centimeters?

 

Thanks, David

 

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David,

I am sure you realize the dimensions I gave are actual size, not scaled.   Not knowing the scale of your model, I don't know the sizes that you would actually be using.  Gregory gave you a conversion set to use for , but first you need to convert 10" (for example)  to the scale you are using.  If 1:48, it would be 10/48 = 0.208".    0.208 inches X 25.4mm/inch=5.28mm wide planks.  Planks from 5 to about 6mm would be pretty much to scale for a 1"48 scale model.  NOTE:  I misspoke earlier.  The water way would likely be about 11" to 12" wide.  The planks of the flat would be closer to 9" or perhaps 10" wide.   

Allan

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Hello Allan, 

 

I actually thought at first that you meant the scaled dimensions... silly me. however thank you for your corrections! since the model that i am talking about  is 1:64,

i did manage to do the calculation that you recommended me to do, so 10/64 , 0.15 X 2.54 mm =0.4 cm or 4 mm for the width and more importantly since i have to deal with the cards i was given i.e (Amati's deck planks) the length was more important,, the over all length of the keel is 26.5 cm. so i divided it 26.5/3

gave me 8 cm approx for each beam...

 

Thanks y'all 

will publish my log soon...

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