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HMS Victory by The Lazy Saint - Mantua - Scale 1:200 - Third wooden ship

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Hi all,

Thank you very much for the kind and encouraging words you guy's, it is really appreciated as always.

I have been having trouble with my internet connection the last few days so l will now cover my last two session in this post. I have seen good progress and am pleased with the way she is taking shape. The instructions are beginning to get more challenging  than they were before, l am doing as much head scratching as building at the moment.

These shots show the timberheads fitted and painted.

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The Channel's have also been fitted and are awaiting their black paint.

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Black paint applied to the Channel's,

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and a touch up around the timberheads. 

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At this angle you can see the Channel Supporting Brackets, very fiddly but look good.

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I have studied the AOTS book and l am not sure they were fitted on the actual ship, is this a case of "poetic license" by Mantua, l wonder.

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The next task was the drilling of dozens and dozens of holes. Obviously it is vital to get them exactly central and Mantua supply a little jig to assist in this task.

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And here is the first (Starboard) side fitted out with her guns.

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I am reasonably pleased with the outcome, they all look pretty straight to me.

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My next job, of course, will be to fit the port side and then a bit more paint.

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The coppering looks very bright an shiny at the moment so l will apply some mat varnish at the end of my next session. 

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

 

Session.         Time.         Total.  

22.                   4 hrs.         81 hrs.

 

Session.         Time.         Total. 

23.                   6 hrs.         87 hrs.

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Hi all,

Another session where l spent more time pondering than building. I tried to post last night but was unable to for reasons l am unsure of at the moment.

Anyway a bit more progress was made as follows.

The Starboard side Cathead has been fitted. I decided to do one side at a time as it was the Devil's own job trying to get it exactly right. There was no way of pinning/clamping until dry. I used gravity/balanced and was very watchful until the glue set. 

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I also worked on the anchors, the left hand pair came with the kit, the right l purchased as extra as l think l will want four on the finished build.

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Impossible to fit the anchors through the pre drilled holes so l opened them up and inserted them from the side. Should be fine but only time will tell.

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A little more work on the Stern which l think went quite well. I am now at the stage where my natural clumsiness could cause me serious problems.

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And here we are at my conundrum, do l paint the cannons black or leave them as is (just black down the barrels) l think they look great as is however, l have already painted the cannons on the Quarter deck black..... l am not sure.

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I have done 3 to see what they are like as is, l must make a decision before l can progress,

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as l don't want to paint the cannons after all the hatches are fitted. 

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Here is where I am now, the masts are dry fitted. They are cut to length but not yet shaped/tapered. 

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l think that on my next session l shall continue with the deck fittings and ponder over the problem. 

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

 

Session.          Time.         Total. 

25.                    4 hrs.         93 hrs. 

 

 

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Hi all,

Thanks very much for your input Retired guy, they look great brass but l know the right answer is black so that is what l shall be doing on my next session. 

Today l carried out the following tasks.

I fitted the second Cathead, this time l drilled a hole into the rear of the Cathead and fitted a bracket which supported from within, this saved the balancing act l performed yesterday. I then removed the first one and refitted in the same way.

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Which of course is what l should have done in the first place.

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I fitted the rail supports and painted black. I also painted the Skid Beams black.

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Pinrails also fitted, but not painted yet

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And a bit more work on the anchors. 

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This is where I am at now. Only a small amount today, but enjoyable. 

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My next session will be all about cannons, and yet more black paint.

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

 

Session.            Time.         Total.   

26.                      3 hrs.         96 hrs.  

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May I ask what your method is to paint over the brass? I haven’t had much luck (but I haven’t don’t much experimenting either).

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On 11/15/2019 at 8:59 PM, VTHokiEE said:

May I ask what your method is to paint over the brass? I haven’t had much luck (but I haven’t don’t much experimenting either).

Hi,

There is, l believe, a chemical method which gives very good results and ensures all the details are retained. I am not able to advise on that method having never used it, l expect details can be found in the technical sections of this forum. Experts like Dirk (Dubz) will l am sure know and use this method and l am sure he would explain if asked. The method l use l feel is perfectly adequate, it certainly is for me especially on a 1/200 scale build.

I wash all metal parts in warm soapy water and dry with a paper towel. Don't try to paint with one coat, you will definitely loose details by doing this. Apply a thin coat and when dry apply a second thin coat. This should be ok, although in some cases a third, thin coat may be required. Once dry l like to apply a thin protective coat of clear mat varnish. I hope this helps. 

Best wishes as always,

The Lazy Saint. 

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Thank you for the insight. I’ve tried one of the chemical methods (and I am starting to get good results) but I’ll have to see if I can replicate your work with paint. Do you use a specific type of paint? I really appreciate the help and again very nice work on your build.

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5 hours ago, VTHokiEE said:

Do you use a specific type of paint?

During my three wooden ship builds l have been using paints from the Admiralty range and am very happy with them, but, to be quite honest, l am not sure it makes a great deal of difference. I prefer not to mix different brands during a build but sometimes it is unavoidable. Prior to my ships, l made a number of plastic models and found the Humbrol brand very good. I do prefer water based paints but that is because l find it so much easier cleaning brushes and fining/thining down the paint. The finish with water based paints isn't as tough but to counter this l always use clear mat varnish to protect. I hope this helps.

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

 

 

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Hi all,

Once again thanks for the encouragement Edward, and for the likes, appreciated as ever.

First coat of black on the cannons and it has taken quite well.

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On my next session l will touch up where necessary and apply a coat of varnish. 

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

 

Session.      Time.         Total.  

27.                2 hrs.          98 hrs.  

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Hi all,

I have been so busy the last two weeks that I haven't had time to look at the Victory let alone work on her. I was so pleased to do a session today and hope to be able to spend more time in the Den again, although with Christmas on the horizon l expect l will be in demand with the Grandchildren (at least l hope so) 

I started the session by fitting the Supporting pillars for the Skid Beams and l have to admit that they were so fiddly l thought (only for  a moment) l would leave them out. The old saying "practice makes perfect" proved to be true as by the time I got to the last pair l was an expert. 🤣

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Once they were fitted and secure l thought l would turn my attention to the life boats, barge and launch. They proved to be great fun to build and, l think, have turned out great. 

They were well presented and l was very pleased with the laser cutting.

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This is the first up, the little Launch, a joy to build. The smallest was a challenge but no less enjoyable. 20191202_120812.thumb.jpg.d6dcdea4d3a6683ec5b04dde26c09eb2.jpg

Number two.

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Number three. 

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I still have three to do but that is a job for another session. 

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Here they are in their positions, but not yet fitted of course.

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l hope to apply a little paint during my next session which always brings them to life, l think.

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

 

Session.          Time.             Total.   

28.                    4 hrs.             102 hrs

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Hi all,

A short session today but l managed the Belfry, the Bitts and a splosh of white paint.

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Next session l hope to paint and fit the Belfry and the Bitts and a bit of yellow ochre on the little boats. 

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

 

Session.           Time.          Total.  

29.                     2 hrs.          104 hrs.  

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Hi all,

Another painting day today and, l am glad to say, an enjoyable break from the building tasks. All in all l am pleased with my efforts.

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I also fitted and painted the Bitts and Belfry. 

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Also painted the grating's and the skylight over the great cabin.

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I am pleased l fitted the Supporting pillars for the Skid Beams, they would have collapsed under the weight of all those boats. 🤣

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

 

Session.      Time.         Total. 

30.                3 hrs.         107 hrs.  

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Hi all,

Thanks very much for your kind words Dirk, appreciated as always.

Today l tackled the Gunports, l wasn't much looking forward to this task as l knew the nature of the job would leave me with an aching neck, it did. Having said that, as with most repetitive tasks, they become easier as the job progresses. 

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All that is required now is for me to paint the edges red and they will look great, although at the moment they are not so hot.

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l shall paint the edges next and work on the rudder.

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

 

Session.         Time.         Total.    

31.                   3 hrs.         110 hrs

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Hi all,

Another short session this evening but sufficient to enable me to fit the access ladders to the upper deck and to secure three of the ships little boats.

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Oh, and a bit of work on the rudder. 

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The next tasks on the agenda are:

1. Complete and attach the rudder.

2. Paint the edges of the Gunports. 

Until then,

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint 

 

Session.        Time.           Total.  

32.                  3 hrs.           113 hrs.  

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Hi all,

Thanks very much for your kind words Edward and, as always, they are much appreciated. 

I managed a quick hour in the den before lunch and managed to paint the edges of the Gunports. I wanted to do that job asp because it looked quite tatty in my last post. Now, l think, it looks a little more trim.

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With any luck l may get the rudder completed after lunch.

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

 

Session.          Time.           Total.   

33.                    1 hrs.           114 hrs.   

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On 10/12/2019 at 2:36 PM, The Lazy Saint said:

Hi all,

I only managed an hour in the Den today but did get the filler blocks in shape.20191012_162621.thumb.jpg.446af9232067a334ec0dc169a47508f4.jpg

A little bit of titervating tomorrow and l will be ready for the decks and planking.

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This evening l am going to be studying my new book, hopefully l will now know my Davits from my Deadeyes and my Mizzens from my Mains.20191012_190523.thumb.jpg.7f839f9be27f539f222bcdde6a8d5a59.jpg

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

 

Session.           Time.           Total. 

04.                     1 hrs.           8 hrs.

Hi! Does this book contain the AOTS plans?

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On 12/11/2019 at 4:20 PM, Emmet said:

Hi! Does this book contain the AOTS plans?

Hi Emmet,

Here is the contents page. I think there should be a 1/192 scale plan but in my copy it is missing.

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I obtained my copy from a second hand store. I bought it so l could use the correct name for all the various components, the drawings are particularly good.

Perhaps someone else can help you regarding the plans.

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

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Hi all,

Today l tackled the Rudder and started work on the Rails.

Here you can see the Rudder fitted. I have tried to attach it as realistically as possible using real pictures and my AOTS book. The method of attachment in the instruction book is very toy like.

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l think the iron bands are a little wide but otherwise ok.

The Rails are certainly fiddly and l was, at first, a little concerned l may not be able to manage them but they were ok in the end.

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l was very pleased with the results although I was, at this stage, still a little concerned about my ability to thread the very thin Rails through the tiny holes in the posts.

My fears were unfounded. 

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l am now quite confident in my ability to manage all the Rails around the ship.

Tomorrow l shall cut to the correct length and then paint. I think l will also have a look at the entry port canopies, the Gunport Wriggles and the side ladders.

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

 

Session.          Time.           Total. 

34.                    4 hrs.           118 hrs. 

 

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On 12/11/2019 at 11:20 AM, Emmet said:

Hi! Does this book contain the AOTS plans?

Thank you for your response.  I just bought a used copy of 

McKay, John
I think it is important to start reading these various books before I get started.  It is clear that MSW will be critical to this experience.
Have a great holiday if we do not chat again.
Emmet

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Hi all,

A little bit more work done again today. First off, the ladders from the Quarter Deck to the Poop Deck. 

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Followed by more Rails, these are situated around the ship and will, eventually, hold the netting. The next picture shows the first row of posts being fitted.20191219_103151.thumb.jpg.31d33ff47ecc629d42a224c350661383.jpg

This is another of those jobs that get easier as you go on.

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The next run of shots shows, from various angles, the Rails painted.

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Here is the last pair being fitted. I left them until last as their method of attachment differed from the rest. Why it was different is a mystery to me but so are the instructions in general.

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A little bit more head scratching and they are on. I have threaded the Rails onto the posts but have run out of time to paint.

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on my next session l shall complete the task by painting. 

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

 

Session.          Time.         Total.   

35.                    5 hrs.         123 hrs.   

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Hi all,

I managed a short session this morning, this time of year we must grab every opportunity we get. We are now waiting for two of the Grandchildren to descend on us. 🤣

A bit more work on the Rails.

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My next session, whenever that may be, should see the completion of the Rails and netting.

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

 

Session.        Time.          Total.  

36.                  1 hrs.          124 hrs.    

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Hi LS , you're doing a splendid job, everytime I look in Victory just gets better and better. Well done my friend 👍😁

Have a good Christmas and New Year and happy shipbuilding!!

Have fun with your grandchildren as I am sure I will with mine.

Cheers 

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On 10/17/2019 at 10:18 AM, The Lazy Saint said:

Hi all,

Another day of planking, it seems to be going ok. I am not managing as well as my first two builds and l wish l had used one or two more filler blocks at either end.

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Never mind, it is to late for me but if anyone happens to read this, and is planning to build this model, take note and make more use of filler blocks.

Best wishes as always, 

The Lazy Saint. 

 

Session.         Time.           Total.

08.                   5 hrs.           26 hrs.

Would love to see the pic between the planking above and the finished below.

Have a great holiday!

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About the NRG

If you enjoy building ship models that are historically accurate as well as beautiful, then The Nautical Research Guild (NRG) is just right for you.

The Guild is a non-profit educational organization whose mission is to “Advance Ship Modeling Through Research”. We provide support to our members in their efforts to raise the quality of their model ships.

The Nautical Research Guild has published our world-renowned quarterly magazine, The Nautical Research Journal, since 1955. The pages of the Journal are full of articles by accomplished ship modelers who show you how they create those exquisite details on their models, and by maritime historians who show you the correct details to build. The Journal is available in both print and digital editions. Go to the NRG web site (www.thenrg.org) to download a complimentary digital copy of the Journal. The NRG also publishes plan sets, books and compilations of back issues of the Journal and the former Ships in Scale and Model Ship Builder magazines.

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