EricWilliamMarshall Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share #91 Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) I have jiggered the mast and added boots. I think I have recovered from the earlier issues. Edited March 30, 2020 by EricWilliamMarshall coxswain, GrandpaPhil, Edwardkenway and 4 others 7 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted March 30, 2020 Share #92 Posted March 30, 2020 Well done, it’s such a great feeling when you overcome issues like this. Retired guy, thibaultron and EricWilliamMarshall 3 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share #93 Posted March 31, 2020 I’ve fixed rudder. I’m prepping the cloth for this model’s set of sails/experiments. I’m also now thinking about string. The kit contains two tiny amounts in two sizes in white only with instructions to dye white to a darker color as needed. Of course, I’m unsure how much to dye, since I haven’t figured what goes where and in what amounts. So I’m thinking making rope, although I’ve never done that. Since the photo on the cover of the box is my current go-to reference - I noticed that some is the rope is wrapped with smaller string (making it served rope). I’m curious about that as well. Where that is used, how to do it well (and labor intensive is it if folks feel the need for serving machines!) thibaultron and Edwardkenway 2 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted March 31, 2020 Share #94 Posted March 31, 2020 8 hours ago, EricWilliamMarshall said: I noticed that some is the rope is wrapped with smaller string (making it served rope). I’m curious about that as well. Where that is used, how to do it well (and labor intensive is it if folks feel the need for serving machines!) Okay, now you are asking questions that are above my pay grade! 😉 Edwardkenway, EricWilliamMarshall and thibaultron 3 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share #95 Posted March 31, 2020 19 minutes ago, ccoyle said: now you are asking questions that are above my pay grade! Hahaha!! thibaultron 1 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired guy Posted April 3, 2020 Share #96 Posted April 3, 2020 Hi Eric you ask me a question "Richard, how did you get into the metal working side off things? It started back when I was at school 1971 and some of the courses I really liked was metal work, wood work and TD (Technical Drawings) and I did very well in each one of them so the school sent me to a Technical college when I was 14/15 to learn more did well there and ended up two years later getting an 5 year apprenticeship in Fabrication and Welding, the company which hired me sent me to the Engineering Industry Training Board for the first year so did not report for work but was sent back to the Technical College were they had a building with metal work shop. lathe and milling shop, electrical shop and fitting shop, it was brilliant you still had to clock in/out same as if you went to work, were not to miss days, then after that finished another think which helped was for five years we were sent to the College each Friday (when college was open) to learn metallurgy, math and half the day of doing drawings. So this is how I got into metal working side of things Regards Richard thibaultron, EricWilliamMarshall and ccoyle 3 Quote Current build: Bluenose by Retired guy - Model Shipways - scale 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share #97 Posted April 3, 2020 Wow, what a great prep for one of your retirement hobbies! I’ll say again, which is what everyone else says, beautiful beautiful work. If I do a Bluenose build, it will be cause of you. thibaultron 1 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share #98 Posted April 3, 2020 I'm not going to use the printed fabric. Although it looks nicer as a smaller photo. Retired guy, thibaultron and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share #99 Posted April 3, 2020 I started on the sails, while I think about my rigging. I'm using cotton fabric (I bought extra as part of my last build) that I painted with water-soluble varnish (so think cheap acrylic matte medium). If I do that before cutting, I have less loose threads. I played with using cyanoacrylate glue, but this works about the same and is cheaper and easier (a double win!) I then scored the fabric with metal. In this case, the back of a scissor blade. Last time I used white gel pens for the seams, this time the scoring looks good to me, especially at the smaller scale. JayCub, Retired guy, ccoyle and 2 others 5 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted April 3, 2020 Share #100 Posted April 3, 2020 Those are a great improvement on the original kit sails. Retired guy, EricWilliamMarshall and thibaultron 3 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share #101 Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) Chris, Thanks for the kind words!! Jersey City Frankie has some great insights and work on sails he started on his HMS Victory (the build log was formerly here: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/9359-hmsvictory-by-jerseycity-frankie-–-heller-–-plastic-1100-–mostly-rigging-and-sails/ note: the link is broken and that log is no longer to be found). I've run with his idea in a slightly different direction. As Chuck mentioned before, this is an older kit. But the folks who made it, really tried to make an all inclusive, 'we got you covered'-kind of beginner's kit. But the bar for kit quality and builder knowledge is higher now on average.* Long story short, so much of the kit can obviously be improved on, that it begs even a novice, such as myself, to look about a bit and think, I could do better. (Or at least, my efforts may be as poor as the kit's offerings!). It has prompted be to try things that were not in my original plan. Which was something like: 'oh, this is a simple kit'; 'I'm a simple builder'; 'I just bang it out and learn a wee bit along the way and build my first wood ship, having finished a wood boat.' Not a clever plan, but suitable for an after-work, after-family, scrap-a-few-hours-together-to-waste approach to this hobby. *to clarify, the experts of every age have done and will do extraordinary work and I assume the same may be true of top of the lines kits from yesteryear, with beautiful expensive wood, etc. My point is on average, I would wager that laser cutting, brass etching, vastly improved printing and research means better kits across the spectrum. I would also wager the average builder builds skills, knowledge, etc. at a fast rate than pre-internet, pre-MSW, pre-Amazon, pre-cheap tools, etc. So I posit that 'hump' of the bell curve for quality of both kits and builders has moved closer to 'quality' end over time. I invite comments my elders, the more wise, etc. (actually, everyone, to be honest!) Edited April 3, 2020 by EricWilliamMarshall ccoyle, thibaultron, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share #102 Posted April 4, 2020 I dyed the white string for the rigging darker as per the brief instructions. Not as dark as could be, but given the limited color selection in house due to virus lockdown, I’ll take it. Retired guy, JayCub, GrandpaPhil and 4 others 7 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 6, 2020 Author Share #103 Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) I’ve started the rigging!! I mounted the blocks. Again vague instructions (actually no instructions, but an image.) There are no channels, either. The string in the kit is too thick for the supplied blocks, so I’ve used cotton thread as well. I’ve chosen a color as close as could find in the house (since we are ‘sheltering in place’:) ). This is my first stab at ‘the pair of blocks’ bit (there are no dead eyes in this kit) and the winding string about the thicker string. I used thin wire on each block to create the loops after fumbling a bit with tried thread or string. Edited April 8, 2020 by EricWilliamMarshall coxswain, ccoyle, Edwardkenway and 6 others 9 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share #104 Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) More of the same! I found the winding the thread around the string taxing, especially for the in place work! Edited April 7, 2020 by EricWilliamMarshall Duanelaker, Retired guy, ccoyle and 6 others 9 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share #105 Posted April 7, 2020 I noticed I have be aware of any twist on the string or the blocks tangle up. I went with minimal thread wrapping (skipping the stuff I asked about earlier). thibaultron and JayCub 2 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SardonicMeow Posted April 7, 2020 Share #106 Posted April 7, 2020 On 4/4/2020 at 12:50 AM, EricWilliamMarshall said: I dyed the white string for the rigging darker as per the brief instructions. Not as dark as could be, but given the limited color selection in house due to virus lockdown, I’ll take it. I like how the subtle variations in color make it look more natural. coxswain and thibaultron 2 Quote Peter Completed build: Virginia 1819 from Artesania Latina In progress: Sultana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share #107 Posted April 7, 2020 27 minutes ago, SardonicMeow said: I like how the subtle variations in color make it look more natural. Thanks! I quite like that myself. The string had a coating which caused the dye to bead and not interact with the string. As first that bothered me, but then once I got the dye to seep in, I too noticed the variations and stopped. After poking around the internet, there a few ways to force/create such variation. thibaultron 1 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuda1949 Posted April 7, 2020 Share #108 Posted April 7, 2020 I bought the same model kit off ebay back in the early 90 s and it was first model I built after building many ships is bottles. I wrestled with the model but I did finish it and it sits proudly among my sib of the PRIDE OF Baltimore and the Young American. Very nice work on your part look forward to following along. ccoyle, EricWilliamMarshall, thibaultron and 4 others 7 Quote Al Current Build The President by Sergal Completed Build Cutty Sark 1:75 SIB Hannah Opium Smuggler SIB Pride of Baltimore II On Deck Pride of Baltimore II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share #109 Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, Cuda1949 said: I bought the same model kit off ebay back in the early 90 s and it was first model I built after building many ships is bottles. Awesome!!! Thanks for the pictures - yours are the only photos of a built-version of this model I have seen. As you may remember, the instructions are a bit light on detail. As a result, I keep staring at the box lid, trying to reverse engineer what I see. But there is only one photo to work with (admittedly, there are several copies of that photo on the box top though.) I see you had much better success with working with the given parts than I did! She looks very nice! Again thanks for sharing! i also bought this kit in the ‘90s as well, from a cool hobby shop in the east-side of Manhattan. I cut two pieces and got scared I that would ruin the kit. The kit then survived moves, a fire, having kids, etc. until now when I decided I was fine with ruining the kit and had go. Edited April 8, 2020 by EricWilliamMarshall Retired guy and thibaultron 2 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share #110 Posted April 9, 2020 More block work. I used 28 gauge copper wire (blackened chemically - but it wears away easily) on the blocks. My tools are a regular pair of snips, xacto blade and a regular pin (head snipped off and mounted in a pin vise). The pin is the correct diameter loop making as it fits the dyed string I'm using for the standing rigging. Duanelaker, Edwardkenway, Retired guy and 5 others 8 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share #111 Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) A little bit of progress on the rigging- I’m getting a little bit faster but it is slower than I would like. Edited April 10, 2020 by EricWilliamMarshall Retired guy, Edwardkenway, Cuda1949 and 4 others 7 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardkenway Posted April 10, 2020 Share #112 Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) Slow is not a problem Eric 😁. It helps as I find I don't make mistakes (as much) as when trying to push the build along. She's looking good now and is going to be a little beauty when she's done😊 Edited April 10, 2020 by Edwardkenway VTHokiEE, Cuda1949, thibaultron and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 12, 2020 Author Share #113 Posted April 12, 2020 A wee bit more work on the rigging. Cuda1949, GrandpaPhil, Retired guy and 4 others 7 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 12, 2020 Author Share #114 Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) So I finished Step 15. Edited April 12, 2020 by EricWilliamMarshall ccoyle, GrandpaPhil and thibaultron 3 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 12, 2020 Author Share #115 Posted April 12, 2020 The next step thibaultron, GrandpaPhil, Retired guy and 2 others 5 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkwz Posted April 12, 2020 Share #116 Posted April 12, 2020 She's coming along nicely indeed! VTHokiEE, thibaultron and EricWilliamMarshall 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 12, 2020 Author Share #117 Posted April 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, rkwz said: coming along nicely indeed! Thanks for the kind words! Little by little!! Cuda1949 and thibaultron 2 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted April 12, 2020 Share #118 Posted April 12, 2020 I can’t wait to see the sails on her! The finish line is in sight. Have you thought about a display base? thibaultron 1 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 12, 2020 Author Share #119 Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, VTHokiEE said: Have you thought about a display bas Ha ha, I’m still thinking about a work cradle! But your query has prompted me to think... hmm... I’ll share if something clever strikes me. thibaultron and Cuda1949 2 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share #120 Posted April 13, 2020 A bit of needle work. Retired guy, Osmosis, GrandpaPhil and 4 others 7 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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