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Well, I would like to share lots of information about it, but medias are already busy at transfering news here and there. Also, most of virus topics are related with sensitive debates such as politics, government stands, religions, and diplomacy. Therefore, I won't comment on the current COVID-19 topic, and close a mouth with brief comment on news regarding modeling society.

 

All modeling and hobby fairs in South Korea and Japan are delayed or cancelled this year. One of the biggest hobby fair in SK is also delayed to June 13~14th, and many members are not optimistic because of current pandemic trend. I hope you are well. 

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The world will not stop spinning and treatments will and actually are starting to appear. Due to the circumstances, they probably will be fast tracked without going through the full number of loops and hoops. This has happened before with bad diseases and actually, already in Europe I read somewhere that an antiviral drug that of course is not licenced for this disease will be compassionately given to very unwell patients. It helps also that money is not an issue. We need to buy time paying the smallest price possible

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The thing that really peeves me is  your  given all this advice about isolating but there is nothing for those of us with pets.

When I did find information on this, it was to get friends to look after your dog, friends who Would be in the same situation as you.

What happens if a farmer has to go into quarantine? Who ttakes care of the livestock?

Paul 

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31 minutes ago, Paul Jarman said:

The thing that really peeves me is  your  given all this advice about isolating but there is nothing for those of us with pets.

When I did find information on this, it was to get friends to look after your dog, friends who Would be in the same situation as you.

What happens if a farmer has to go into quarantine? Who takes care of the livestock?

Paul 

Here in California, USA, we are permitted to walk dogs, but must maintain our distance from other people. Veterinarians may care for animals. Kennels would be permitted to operate similarly, I expect. Farmers are permitted to work their farms and care for their animals, but may not sell produce to the public from farm stands. Wineries may tend vineyards and process wine, but may not sell wine to retail customers, operate tasting rooms, or permit tours (which is a large sideline of the tourist industry here in "The Wine Country.") The food supply chain isn't affected and caring for animals is listed as an "essential" activity.

 

To be sure, there's much about which to be peeved. Among the most peeved are the parents of school children. All the schools are closed, and so are all the daycare facilities, so, if they are still working in one of the essential jobs, they have to find somebody to take care of the kids while they are at work.

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We still walk ours four times a day, that's about 2 - 2.5 hours. Fortunately we live in a village the size of three cows and a horse, so keeping distance is not that hard. It is often harder to keep away from lonely elderly wanting to have a chat(!) Those are really having a hard time. They must feel shunned, by one and all. Having a telefphone conversation doesn't meet their expectation of having contact with someone, at least for those not accustomed to the digital side life. They are certainly not looking at the bright side of life!

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So hard,

I met a dog walker friend the other day. Asked how she and the family where doing, if they where isolating. She broke down in floods of tears. Turns out her elderly mum is in the last stages of cancer. She had been told she cannot visit for fear of passing anything on. Dose not qualify to be tested. Just wanted to hug and console her, but knew we had to keep our distance. Horrible Virus.

And now the latest fear mongering headlines are for those of us with high blood pressure and the medication we take can put us at risk. The advice given, see local GP and have blood tests. GP says cannot visit surgery and not to stop taking medication.

Be nice to wake up to positive headlines such as the fact there have been no new cases in most of Asia other than brought in by people returning home from abroad.

Paul

 

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It is still business as usual here where I work. Some people are a little freaked out and don't want to get any closer than necessary but for the most part people I know are not making any huge adjustments. My wife was recently diagnosed with Interstitial Lung Disease so she is on oxygen and has to stay around the house. But we both take turns walking the dogs several times a day. They have closed all of the restaurants and bars here in South Florida so we had to curtail our weekly breakfast and dinner gatherings. For the most part life goes on. I still stop at the grocery store a couple times a week on my way home for "milk and eggs" as a matter of fact I am almost out of tite bond so I will be hitting home depot on the way home tonight.

 

For the most part we are trying to not let this affect us any more than necessary. After all it is the Flu and you will either catch it or you won't just like every other Flu season.

 

Best Regards and try not to panic. 

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The Navy hospital ship, USNS COMFORT, is being sent from San Diego to New York City, it has 1,000 hospital rooms to augment existing hospital.  NY State has closed all bars, restaraunrts except take-out, casinos, gyms, movie theaters, plays, etc. Only grocery, banks, pharmacy, medical offices, hospitals, gas stations, take-out like Dunkin Donuts  are open. All non-essential businesses ordered to have 50% of employees work from home. No gatherings of more than 25 people, probably dropping to 10 or less.  So far we can still walk around our neighborhood, parks, etc,  just keep 10 ft distance, go to bank, grocery store, doctor office appointments.  I live in a rural mountain area far from the big city.  So far only 5 confirmed cases in my county. 

 

My Epidemiologist daughter set me this link to "these very cool animations to demonstrate what and why we are doing to protect people and hospitals."   Corona simulator

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On 3/17/2020 at 6:28 PM, probablynot said:

When the postman sticks a bit of junk mai

I retrieve my mail after wiping the outside of the box with Clorox wipes, I wear latex gloves retrieve the mail and wipe outside of letters with Clorox wipes then wipe the inside of box after taking mail out. Wipes on outside of mail does not affect inside contents.

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Sadly the U.S. started way behind the 8 ball, we have so much conflicting information folks do not know what to believe, (Laurel and Hardy who's on first).

Everyone knows the perfect scenario would have been to attack in January with all available data at that time. Armchair quarterbacking serves no purpose and we are stuck with what we have.

 

After all it's a media driven event and we have to sift thru info provided and use common sense in what to and not to believe.

 

Personally I do not believe the 18 month hype their putting out about the virus pinging back and forth for this period of time. God I hope that bit of info is wrong.:(

Edited by John Allen
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Just talked with my boss and I'm going to extend my spring holidays till at least the end of April and self-isolate as much as possible. My gf runs a couple of pharmacies in a rather rural area here, so I really need to limit the risks of of getting her infected at home as much as possible. If she´s getting ill and her stores have to close for a couple weeks would be disastrous, especially as she supplies a retirement home and offers home delivery for a lot of elderly people.

 

On the bright side, lots of time to get into the hobby again, which I'm really looking forward to. Re-reading 'Frigate Commander' at the moment and sorting my ship plan collection.

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Things are going as smoothly as they can here...   wading through the torrent of crap, confusing and overwhelming media is a job in and of itself.   Currently working from home, with one kid out of school and wife that is mandated to report to work as a health provider.    We are doing are best, getting outside as the weather has mercifully retreated to something more tolerable.   So...   with help from a sibling who works as a teacher, Im running elementary curriculum from the dining table and/or otherwise assembling gun carriages and stropping blocks and rigging tackle.     The whole while keeping on top of work email and generally providing some kind of consistency for my colleagues at work. In fact, I attended a 9 person video conference call while assembling guns yesterday.   Was a nice way to cruise through a two-hour meeting!

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Bulk buying of loo rolls is a psychological thing. When we are faced with a scary things like a pandemic we feel overwhelmed and to counter this feeling we have to do something. Buying big bulky items like loo rolls helps us to come to terms with our feelings of inadequacy as we can be seen to acting, even if it is illogical. People are also bulk buying potatoes (a staple food), pasta (a long shelf life food) and flour (so they can make bread, just in case bakeries close). It’s all very odd, but again there’s nothing quite as strange as the human mind.

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I hope that us older guys will be around to look  back and see the historical effect of all this. For the present, appreciate what is really important, follow the OFFICIAL medical advice, and pray.

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4 hours ago, Osmosis said:

 After all it is the Flu and you will either catch it or you won't just like every other Flu season.

 

That s the thing is it not. And more people are suffering with flu than this Virus.

I have received a letter this afternoon telling me no visiters to the flats in accordance with guidelines.

I do live in a retirement block, with quite a few residents between 70 & 90  So don't have a problem with that.

Just taking each day as it comes and definitely not stockpiling. In fact I have enough food to share with neighbors should they need help.

Enjoying the modelling and keeping the dog active with playtime activities.

Be well everyone.

Paul 

 

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1 hour ago, stuglo said:

I hope that us older guys will be around to look  back and see the historical effect of all this. For the present, appreciate what is really important, follow the OFFICIAL medical advice, and pray.

Yes I am 63 and my wife is 59 and we live in a retirement community also. Being on the younger side of the average age around here we have kind of been the unofficial caretakers of some of our older neighbors. Really nothing more than looking in on them from time to time. Since my wife has been tied to an oxygen hose that has obviously become greatly curtailed and now it has stopped all together except for a wave and a yelled "How are you doing" as we pass by while walking the dogs.

 

A shame really.

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How to make one roll of toilet paper (loo paper) last a very long time.  Start with eight sheets.  Use your adjustable shower head on a flexible hose as a bidet to finish the job.  Available at your DIY store.  Great return on a $40.00 investment.  This should work as long as both toilet and shower are in the same room.  🧐

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I've not been out of our apartment for over a fortnight as I suffer from COPD. Not worth the risk catching this "dreaded lurgi" as I'm 79, it would likely "see me off". Yesterday the admirals son told her not to go out and he and his partner will do all our shopping etc. It's the same here in Kanton Baselland,only pharmacies and food shops allowed to be open all other businesses, schools et al closed. The borders to France and Germany are also closed although people who work here are allowed in.

 

Be safe and keep well everyone.

 

Dave :dancetl6: 

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Just now, PopDavid said:

How to make one roll of toilet paper (loo paper) last a very long time.  Start with eight sheets.  Use your adjustable shower head on a flexible hose as a bidet to finish the job.  Available at your DIY store.  Great return on a $40.00 investment.  This should work as long as both toilet and shower are in the same room.  🧐

They sell a gimmick at the home improvement stores that connects a bidet to your standard toilet plumbing, very simple to install. I just don't know how well I could get used to that, but I guess in a pinch, it would be better than nothing.

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32 minutes ago, CDW said:

... but I guess in a pinch, it would be better than nothing.

There's a joke in there somewhere... 🙃

 

Into the 3rd day of the Shelter in Place order here in the Bay Area. At least the rain seems to have stopped and there's a bit of sunshine today, so things feel more normal. My cat is certainly happier, which makes me happier.

 

I think some of the panic is wearing off here. The grocery stores are still open, after all, as are other "essential" businesses. I haven't even tried to buy any TP, but the shelves are restocked every night. I didn't go this morning, as they had "seniors hours" to allow senior citizens a window of opportunity to shop when the store is the cleanest and easiest to find the goods they need. The nearest grocery store here does this twice a week now. Anyway, I managed to order some online and we'll see if it arrives on Saturday as scheduled. Other things I've ordered I've received with no trouble, so I don't see why not.

 

But, frankly, after only 3 days, the most depressing thing is my own cooking. So, I went and got something for lunch today. I have to be a bit careful about spending as I don't have much work/income right now, but I also have to get through this, psychologically. So, spending as needed!

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Clare,

Here is a link you (and any other U.S. colleagues) may want to explore: www.everyplate.com. It's an online-only food service that puts together ingredients (fresh) for complete meals on a weekly basis. The standard "meal plan" is for 2 people and choices are from a dozen meals; as mentioned, all ingredients (including perishable proteins like meat(s), fish, dairy/cheese) are packed in a small cold container. On a two person plan, the meals are $4.99 each - however, shipping adds a fixed price of $8.99 which brings the per meal plan up to about $7.00/person. We just ordered next week's meals for two (for 3 days) and can say that last week's selections (of 3 different choices) were delicious. And did I mention FRESH AND Delicious!! Yep, prep required. However, for those not afraid of the kitchen and spending some prep/cooking time, this is a real "disrupter" to the normal order of having to go out to a restaurant for a really good, fresh meal. Or, doing GrubHub with your favorite restaurants and going bankrupt in 2-3 weeks! Oh yeah, everyplate also have at least one vegetarian meal (but not Vegan). One is also NOT OBLIGATED to buy anything, so no "automatic" shipments.

 

No, I'm not on commission, nor has the company put me on an IPO list...😁

 

I hope you/yours are doing well. I returned just a couple hours ago from a mind-boggling trip to the supermarket (senior hours, early: 6AM-7:30AM). Lots of empty shelving. The hoarding is discouraging, to say the least. Empty shelves for many items: dairy, all open-cut meats, paper goods-all varieties, even dog and cat food. I am keeping a detailed diary of these Crisis days; my visit also showed me, first-hand, the worst of humanity. While looking into another aisle for an item, someone stole the toilet paper pack from my shopping cart which was behind me by a few feet. Unbelievable! I should mention that there were also two (2) police cruisers parked outside the store. I live in an upscale community in Connecticut. This particular store also made NO EFFORT to control hoarding. A simple sign would help, I think. Like any crisis, there is and will be PROFITEERING.

 

All the more reason to find another grocery venue (of which there are many other more ethical choices, like Trader Joe's....and to hope everyplate can stay in business through this crisis!

 

Cheers Bay Area Bro,

Ron

 

PS If the two meal minimum doesn't work for you, prep, plate and freeze the second meal - or have lunch and dinner!

 

 

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Thanks for the advice Ron. Actually, I just don't like to cook. Plus, while I don't have a whole lot of income right now, I do want to give the local restaurant owners a boost, so I don't mind passing a bit of my money to them here and there.

 

And, actually, I do have some supplies to prepare a little sushi, which is one things I can make that I'll enjoy. And, actually, I did make a small batch of split pea soup, which I froze, so I can take some out any time and it's really good too.

 

That's incredible that someone would actually steal the TP from your shopping cart. I mean, hording stuff from the shelves is one thing, but it takes a real low-life to take from another. Sorry that happened to you, not just for the lack of TP, but for having your trust in fellow human beings violated.

 

Weird about the pet food, but I guess people panicked about that now too. For me, I got a shipment of cat food for my feline friend today. Kind of funny that I'm better prepared for her than for me!

 

In any case, I'll check out the everyplate.com link. Might be nice to change things up here and there.

 

Keep building those beautiful ship models,

Clare

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In Oz we're not quite to the lockdown stage, though maybe we should be. Grocery stores and chemists are still open and likely to remain so. But restaurants, cafes etc haven't closed down yet - though I expect it to happen soon. But the upper limit on gatherings is still 100 people - should be nil.

 

Schools and child care centres remain open - apparently the decision was that as about 1/3 of healthcare workers have kids in school or childcare, closing these places would deprive the community of their efforts. Also kids seem to survive it better - or even not catch it (can't be sure of my data on this one, so don't take my word for it). One country I heard of have sent all the kids home except the kids of health care workers. Sounds like a good solution. 

 

On the other hand Tasmania has closed its borders (it can afford to - it's an island) and any Tasmanians returning home have to undergo 2 weeks quarantine. Sounds sensible to me. It has only a very few confirmed cases and should be able to keep it that way. And now Australia has closed its borders as of tonight - only Oz residents and citizens are allowed in, and they also have to self-quarantine for 2 weeks.  

 

My wife has found a couple of sites online that tell how to make your own surgical masks (can't get them here for love or money), which currently nobody seems to be wearing - at least in Ballarat. Apparently even in the capital cities the message hasn't got across, except perhaps among Asian people, who've been there before and understand the magnitude of the problem. Maybe we can start a trend.

 

Steven

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Thanks Clare,

 

Just to change things up a bit, checking-out the link won't hurt. It's great that you are supporting your local restaurants; we are doing the same but also decided to explore other cooking options. We do like to cook, so this is a great (so far) alternative, especially if ingredients start disappearing from store shelves (like meats!). Being from the Bay Area (Hayward/Berkeley), I too like Japanese food. This is NOT an Everyplate choice, unfortunately. We do have some good restaurants here in CT. Sushi is aplenty, but when I inquire about Shabu-Shabu or Sukiyaki I'm usually staring back at a puzzled face.

 

A shopper told me that people are not only hoarding pet food for their animals, but the canned foods can be spread on bread....you know, should there be a food crisis from a pandemic some day. I once had 5 cats; if this were the case today, I'd be bankrupt and very stressed. As you well know, cats can be VERY particular about their meals.

 

Thanks for your compliment. Domo Arigato! I am hunkering-down on a Higaki Kaisen diorama build as I type this post to you. I just posted a number of photos into the MSW Gallery for my last diorama, LeTigre. How I'd like to be on that ship, sailing in the warm Caribbean waters - right now!

 

Keep Calm..and I've attached an early 2020 Christmas Shopping solution suggestion (courtesy of another creative MSW'er if you didn't see it)...

Ron

 

 

 

 

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