Minnang Posted March 27, 2020 Share #1 Posted March 27, 2020 Does anyone know how compasses would be positioned when the wheel is snugged up against a companionway with no room for a binnacle cabinet? The only thing I can think of is they are somehow built into the companionway or on a stand of some sort. Thank you for any input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Poison Posted March 27, 2020 Share #2 Posted March 27, 2020 What is the ship you are working on? mtaylor 1 Quote Completed.... Charles W. Morgan,Sea Horse,USS Constitution,Virginia 1819,San Fransisco II, AL HMS Bounty 1:48 L'Herminione 1:96 Spanish Frigate,22 cannons 18th C. 1:35 scale.Scratch-built (Hull only) Cutter Cheefull 1806 1:48 (with modifications) Current Project: Orca (This is a 35" replica of the Orca boat from the movie Jaws) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnang Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted March 27, 2020 HMS Jalouse. The Admiralty drawing is dated 1797. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted March 27, 2020 Share #4 Posted March 27, 2020 This the binnacle I built for my Endeavor (1770); this solution puts the binnacle over the skylight, with a compass either side, to allow for the helmsman to steer depending on where the wind was from. The binnacle is unlikely to go over a companion as the crew need to enter/leave via the companion hatch. However it could back into the other side and would therefore be a small construction. cheers Pat Captain Poison, Bob Cleek and mtaylor 3 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnang Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share #5 Posted March 28, 2020 Thank you very much Pat. Looks like a neat solution and a very nice Endeavor. The Jalouse Admiralty drawings show a ladderway directly in front of the companion and Caldercraft places the capstan in approximately the same position. It appears there are no options to place a binnacle forward whether I follow the plans or the kit design. I think modelers 200 years from now will be very lucky. They'll have 1000s of clear digitized photos of pretty much any subject. When building a model of an ancient 2020 automobile they'll clearly see where the steering wheel is and even the font used on the speedometer 🙂 BANYAN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 28, 2020 Share #6 Posted March 28, 2020 They also made "smaller" binnacles with no lamps, just the compass. These were usually tied down and could be removed to below decks. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr PR Posted March 28, 2020 Share #7 Posted March 28, 2020 Here is an example of a binnacle on a modern (1895) schooner C. A. Thayer. The companionway is offset to one side and the binnacle (the thing with the curved top) is tied down to the roof of the cabin on the ship's centerline, forward and below the boom rest. Captain Poison and mtaylor 2 Quote Phil Current build: https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/19611-albatros-by-dr-pr-mantua-scale-140-about-1815/&tab=comments#comment-601276 Previous build: https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/19321-uss-oklahoma-city-clg-5-1971-3d-cad-model/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnang Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share #8 Posted March 28, 2020 Thank you all for the ideas. I stumbled across this snippet of info that I found quite interesting about binnacles and models. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00253359.1948.10657512?journalCode=rmir20 mtaylor and Gregory 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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