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Hi Everyone 

This is my first model of this type and having only just found this great site and wish id done so earlier! 

I’m at the rigging stage of building HMS Mars, I’ve done the stays and rat lines, ( even found how to do the mouse!) but if anyone can point me towards pics of the yard rigging stages onwards that would be great.The plans are pretty good, but seeing  it is so much more helpful, as the nearer the end I get, either I’m getting denser, or its getting more complicated!

Right now I’m not sure if I never want to see another model again, or jump straight back in and try not to repeat some of the schoolboy errors I made, there has been more than one occasion when I have sat starting blankly at a mini fail, only to realize that mistakes you make wait a while before they come back to bite you!

Any help would be very much appreciated.

thanks

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Despite any errors you've made, that is a fine model for your first attempt! Don't beat yourself up.

 

There are some great kits out today that even exceed the quality of the one you bought. I really do hope you can share a new build log with us in future.

 

Oh.... and :sign:

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2 hours ago, vaddoc said:

Indeed, your boat looks very nice! Yep, your description of model boat building seems accurate enough.

Welcome to MSW!

 

3 hours ago, James H said:

Despite any errors you've made, that is a fine model for your first attempt! Don't beat yourself up.

 

There are some great kits out today that even exceed the quality of the one you bought. I really do hope you can share a new build log with us in future.

 

 

 

 

Totally agree!! Welcome to MSW 

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It's a lovely model you've been building, and the Caldercraft models are generally amongst the top brand of kit makers. To answer your question about the rigging, I can suggest three lines of thought.

 

The first is to get Petersson's book "Rigging Period Ship Models". Among the rigging experts there is a lot of banter about inaccuracies, but it does give a very good simplified introduction to rigging square rig ships. It has beautiful diagrams that break down each part of the rigging separately so that you can step back from the overpowering complexity of a rigging diagram.

 

There is also Mondfeld's excellent book on Historic Ship Models.

 

You can find both books used, at reasonable cost, on eBay, Amazon, Alibris or AbeBooks. There's even a Kindle edition of the Petersson book.

 

The second line of thought is to go to the National Maritime Museum's website and research your ship. The may well have plans available.

 

Finally, you can search for other builds of Mars on the web, which may give some help.

 

Tony

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Welcome to MSW.   I wish you success on the HMS Mars.

 

I did a quick search and there's two logs, but neither has gone to the point of rigging yet and they're both about 7 years old.  Maybe think about starting a log beginning with the rigging?  

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Hi John,

 

The Pettersson book is a good reference just remember it is for one point in History and for a ship. You are rigging a Brig that may have differences as well due to being a captured Dutch ship.

 

I still refer to James Lees book for variances for the period of the vessel I am building.

 

As for being a Brig just remember that the lowest yard on the main mast is now a crossjack yard and so will not have  as much rigging as the fore yard.

 

I am just catching up with you on my H.M.S. Cruiser's rigging. Just doing the ratlines and then will have backstays to do before I have caught up. I write up my hole rigging plan first so happy to help as we go along. If you start a log from where you are it will start a debate that will help you.

 

Adrian 

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Thanks Adrian

Im just waiting for a few extras to arrive from Jotika and the book and I’ll make a start. I’ve got a feeling that my efforts are going to be pretty amateurish, but looking forward? to giving it a go!

one of the biggest problems I had with the stays was keeping the tension so if the book has any tips on that I might re-do them

cheers

John

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Welcome! What you wrote about your experience so far is exactly what all of us have gone through/are going through. You will have plenty of sympathy and advice if you need it here. For a first attempt, you've done very well. Your model looks like most folks' third or fourth!

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Never give up. Never be afraid to redo. If there is a shipbuilder's "block", we all have recurrent attacks. About rigging, I defer to the foregoing experts , but I understood that this was often done away from the original builders yard and upgrades/repairs at the captain's choice and direction.

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