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Very educational Hellmuht, I continue to be fascinated.

Keith

 

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J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

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On 6/16/2020 at 1:56 AM, Hellmuht Schrader said:

Well it sound very simple but.... believe me it is not...... double planking..... the interior is the one that will have “all” the work....V channels (2), battens (8) and frames

It took me some time to figure out what you'd done - so rather than an incredibly complicated single-planked system with hidden joints and ropes passing halfway into the planks and out again - what in shoemaking is called a "tunnel" stitch

 

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you got really clever and simplified the process, splitting the "solid" planks into two layers each half the thickness, so you have a much simpler sewing job through the inner layer, and cover it with an outer layer of  planks with no sewing needed. I take my hat off to you, sir. That's totally brilliant!

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Really It was not just my idea. Vladimir Herrero made de Cheops barge some years ago. He had the same idea. I just took it and improved a little .....

 

build first the inner hull
 

finally no channels. I put some reinforcements that made two functions.... reinforce and “channel”

 

thanks a lot for your kind words

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23 hours ago, Louie da fly said:

It took me some time to figure out what you'd done - so rather than an incredibly complicated single-planked system with hidden joints and ropes passing halfway into the planks and out again - what in shoemaking is called a "tunnel" stitch

 

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you got really clever and simplified the process, splitting the "solid" planks into two layers each half the thickness, so you have a much simpler sewing job through the inner layer, and cover it with an outer layer of  planks with no sewing needed. I take my hat off to you, sir. That's totally brilliant!

Let’s see the backside of the hull.....

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there we can see the idea I was trying to explain

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The actual ship must've looked like a rag floating on the water with all that rope work. It would be a very flexible hull. Oh well beats swimming I guess. Nice work by the way.  My remark is one of imagining the real ship as portrayed by your excellent model.

Bill, in Idaho

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I continue to be intrigued and impressed.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

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Is a process with a lot of try and error......  I use to repeat all those pieces that at the end I don’t feel “good” with.  That’s why some times I take a long time to make posts.

 

But thanks a lot for being in the bench.  Let’s see how this adventure is going to “THE END” 😀

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1 hour ago, Cobalt kb said:

Fascinating build. One of the most interesting I have seen in a long time as I have always had a fascination with ancient ships. Will follow your efforts. As a side note, many years ago I lived in Bogota , Colombia and visited Medellin many times. Beautiful city. Saludos

Any way you are more than welcome to come back!!!!!

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I want to give an update......

Let’s keep in mind this “famous” picture....

 

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It is time to start with the central beam or girder .... according with the investigation this is the equivalent to the keel. It is its predecessor..... it was among the Hugging-Truss, the elements that kept the hull with this form and gave to it the strength.....

In this case, the beam was convex and in order to give it the right form I needed to tie it up to the hull. Thanks to God I had a lot of holes to do it.... 😀

 

 

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I did it before the deck beams. It gave me the “exact” position for them.....

 

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They have a little holes in both ends, that is the way they wil be tied to the hull.....

 

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Also the Bow-Stern “poles are made..... I choose different wood in order to “kill” a little bit the monotony.....

 

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Just found your log Hellmuht.  A very interesting subject for a model and I will continue to follow this intriguing build.  You have done a great job on the hull.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Fascinating build, Hellmuht.  One question from my ignorance... is the outside of the hull planked over the ropes?  I'm trying to visualize how they kept the water from leaking in.

Mark
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In the real life the planks had some “V” channels internally.   They were so thick ......

 

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there were no doble planking. This is only for “model construction “ purposes, since the scale is not allowing to make those “v” channels.....

 

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in other books they mention that they put papyrus and animal grease in the joints

 

 

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Let’s keep going....

 

The little “columns” that fix the girder to the hull through the frames are in place.....

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The poles for the hugging-truss and mast raising system are in place...

 

 

I started to fix the beams to the hull...... they are supported by the girder and tied to the hull....

 

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We are going to install first these beams.....they are the “end” of each deck section....

 

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Same thing with the bow pole with the “eye of Horus” ........

 

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A very creditable job Hellmuht, especially noting the small amount of glue used.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Let’s keep going with the advances.....

 

I’ve been working in the deck.  The central zone will be full removable and I have done just half of it.   It will allow all the hull sewed been sewing.......

 

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It is sewed also.... at the same time I’ve working in the bow and stern deck but these are just “presented” since I need to work in the external hull, finish the hull sewing...

 

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And then they will be fixed/sewed.

Take look how it is looking so far.....

 

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Wonderful work, Hellmuht. The sewing gives it a completely different look from most models.

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