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Reading various post’s about rope making I see that DMC seems to be the cotton of choice for many folk.

I am some what confused in that here in New Zealand DMC cotton comes in stranded packs used for embroidery and limited to 8 metre lengths.

My question is does DMC sell it differently in the states or am I looking at the wrong stuff?

Any help appreciated.

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They unfortunately discontinued there line of thread in most sizes that was used for rope making.  They used to make sizes 100 thru 10 in white and ecru.  Now you have to hunt for them on ebay second hand.  

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Hi nzreg,

OK I'm at the other end of the world, but I make my own ropes and use cotton threads supplied via here https://www.empressmills.co.uk/sewing-threads/general-purpose-sewing-threads which seems to suit well.

Other materials are Barbour linen threads via eBay, they can be thicker but I use them for all my tying and securing seizing. It comes in different grades, sorry but I still, after 15 years, do not understand their sizing numbers. I just ask for the blackest, thinest and get 800m spools!

 

Aye, Kim

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Kim,

 

Linen is confusing.  The old unit was Lea    but I recently Nm  and NeC  have become more common

 

Lea   yds/lb  / 300

Nm   # 1000m/kg

NeC  # 840yd/lb

 

The key is + the larger the value the thinner the yarn 

 

The smallest I have found  is 65 Lea  -  it is yarn - plant fibers twisted into a line - it breaks easily during twist up. 

There is 100/3 Lea  linen thread -  it is 3 yarns of 100 Lea each twisted into  a single thread - so it is sort of the diameter of 50 Lea single yarn -but already scale rope.

 

40/2 Lea linen is two 40 Lea yarns  -  so a no joy if the hope was that it could be unwound and yield 80 Lea - even if yarn that fine would withstand the process.

 

One thought =  natural linen yarn is close the scale color of  hemp that is not treated with tar - half bleached and bleached would both want to be dye treated  but all are easily converted to standing rigging with a dose of dark walnut dye.   A diluted ( a lot) dark walnut gets running rigging color. 

 

It is my experience that supplies of natural, half bleached,  and bleached are more likely to be available.

 

The Baltic linen yarn that I have sourced  could stand better quality control.  There are bits of poorly crushed and  not combed out plant fiber in places that break under twisting stress.

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1 hour ago, kimosubby said:

Hi nzreg,

OK I'm at the other end of the world, but I make my own ropes and use cotton threads supplied via here https://www.empressmills.co.uk/sewing-threads/general-purpose-sewing-threads which seems to suit well

Hi Kim,

Thanks for this information, I have tried DMC Babylo and believe it will do the job, the world of thread Is a real minefield.  Here in NZ, Babylo is offered in three sizes with many different colours, but speaking to the supplier I am told that DMC havent made the smaller size in a long time, plus many of the colours shown as available arn’t.  Go figure🥴

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