Waitoa Posted July 7, 2020 Share #1 Posted July 7, 2020 Hi, Will create a log of my current build of an old Del Prado kit that I picked up second hand. I am sure it is mainly complete but will try to supplement as I go with other pieces and Inspiration from Ekis’ great build Waitoa popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waitoa Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share #2 Posted July 7, 2020 I started building this about 7 years ago but put it aside due to work pressures. With the lockdown and Ekis’ excellent build decided to revive it. Initially I made a number of mistakes as I did not strengthen the cardboard structure which I think is essential with these types of models. Also as it was second hand I started with the loose bricks. A number of these had been damaged and I did not take enough time filing them appropriately. This means that the look is very “rustic”. I understand that generally Church buildings were of a higher quality and Masons were more careful so not to imperil their immortal soul. Based on my work guess I am going to hell then. Starting to make progress and bought some Monks for scale. Will finish the Church and then plan the rest of the fortress as think there are a number of modifications I think I will make to the overall kit. Ekis, Old Collingwood, GrandpaPhil and 10 others 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted July 7, 2020 Share #3 Posted July 7, 2020 EXCELLENT! Hate to see a good modeler leave his talent in the closet.... I'm, in... Jack12477, Canute, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted July 7, 2020 Share #4 Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Waitoa said: Based on my work guess I am going to hell then. I think you are safe Waitoa. If what we are seeing is from an already started kit when you got it then any and all mistakes or shoddy workmanship can be blamed on the prior owner and your afterlife is not in question. But with all those monks standing around and supervising I am certain you will do an excellent job! Looking forward to following along. EricWilliamMarshall, Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood and 4 others 6 1 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 7, 2020 Share #5 Posted July 7, 2020 Get one of the monks to give you a bottle of wine and loaf of bread along with some absolution. You'll be fine. Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood, Egilman and 4 others 7 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waitoa Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share #6 Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/7/2020 at 9:50 PM, lmagna said: I think you are safe Waitoa. If what we are seeing is from an already started kit when you got it then any and all mistakes or shoddy workmanship can be blamed on the prior owner and your afterlife is not in question. But with all those monks standing around and supervising I am certain you will do an excellent job! Looking forward to following along. Mea Culpa maxima, the previous owner had opened the packs but all the sins on this one is mine Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor, lmagna and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waitoa Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted July 8, 2020 Hi, As I am new to this type of modelling thought I would post some learnings. Filing the individual bricks is a challenge. When if first started this I would do three to four courses of bricks in one sitting with a view of sanding later. This meant small uneveness was multiplied throughout the model given the bricks a slumped look. I am now laying one course and allowing to dry before filing flat which is starting to provide a more consistent look. Once finished will go back and correct the rougher work and collecting the filings as should be able to create a clay to pack the worse gaps. Thinking of calling the church St Jude as he is the patron Saint of lost causes. mtaylor, Ekis, EricWilliamMarshall and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardkenway Posted July 8, 2020 Share #8 Posted July 8, 2020 Looking good, although whilst important buildings such as churches and manors were built with dressed stones, lesser dwellings would have been made using rougher undressed stone as it was cheaper and quicker. So I think thank you can allow a bit of randomness in the build. Edit: the quality of the stone would probably also depend on the wealth of the manse and its lord. I'm enjoying both your and Ekis' builds👍😁 Waitoa, Ekis, EricWilliamMarshall and 6 others 9 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted July 10, 2020 Share #9 Posted July 10, 2020 On 7/9/2020 at 7:00 AM, Waitoa said: Thinking of calling the church St Jude as he is the patron Saint of lost causes. Very appropriate! If the building had been repaired at any time you'd find all kinds of bodgy work. Having seen quite a few mediaeval stone walls, many of them had pretty rough stonework. This photo is of the Land Walls of Constantinople (modern Istanbul). The tidy stuff at the right is a modern reconstructed wall. And below is a section of wall at Southampton, UK. Canute, lmagna, EricWilliamMarshall and 6 others 9 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waitoa Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share #10 Posted July 10, 2020 Thanks, I am going to go with the story that this stronghold has been sacked a number of times. I am getting better due to the help of a file. Once I get past the bell tower windows will post some learnings. Added a layer of terracotta bricks for contrast and also applied a Matt varnish to that level. Jack12477, Edwardkenway, EricWilliamMarshall and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted July 10, 2020 Share #11 Posted July 10, 2020 looks great! Old Collingwood, Canute, Ekis and 4 others 7 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waitoa Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share #12 Posted July 12, 2020 Thought it would be useful to post some of the tools that I have found useful: Saw - this is good for cutting bricks to size but needs to be done carefully as they can shatter Craft knife - similar to the above for smaller trimming Files - the bigger one is invaluable for shaping bricks before fitted but really good for filing back bricks to give a more consistent finish as removing the high points give a less rustic look Modelling Clay- just started using this and it is good in filling in gaps and also levelling off uneven layers that filing can’t improve. It does leave a plastically and rubber feel but fine sand paper seems to remove any excess Brush - this is really useful given my ineptitude there is a lot of filing going on and the dust settles everywhere so regular brushing surfaces before clueing is important The Stick (trademark pending) - the most useful tool. Been using it to tap down the bricks and to flatten down a course of bricks. Also noticing that overtime the layers tend to lean out so this allows to correct this and where necessary, as in the photo, gives some indication of how much filing is required to bring it back into line Canute, mtaylor, GrandpaPhil and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardkenway Posted July 12, 2020 Share #13 Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Waitoa said: The Stick (trademark pending) - the most useful tool. Been using it to tap down the bricks and to flatten down a course of bricks. Also noticing that overtime the layers tend to lean out so this allows to correct this and where necessary, as in the photo, gives some indication of how much filing is required to bring it back into line Yes, even we "real life professional" bricklayers use a big stick and a big hammer sometimes because walls do tend to lean over of their own account, 😬🙄🙄😂. I've been told by my garage mechanic that the big hammer is in their toolbox too!!! Old Collingwood, druxey, Waitoa and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted July 12, 2020 Share #14 Posted July 12, 2020 Every occupation has a bigger hammer, some of them have even bigger hammers...... Waitoa, Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor and 5 others 7 1 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 13, 2020 Share #15 Posted July 13, 2020 Even occupations one doesn't associate with the BFH (Big Freakin' Hammer) have them. I worked in IT and we had them to threaten recalcitrant computers. Sometimes the threat worked. When it didn't.. take out the frustration on it with the BFH. Old Collingwood, druxey, Edwardkenway and 7 others 9 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waitoa Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share #16 Posted July 14, 2020 Spending more time shaping the bricks than previously. Given how fragile they are cutting them is a challenge so roughly cutting them and then finishing them with a file. Slowly getting better and a bit more pleased with the results. Edwardkenway, Ekis, Egilman and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waitoa Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share #17 Posted July 18, 2020 Oh no, did a bit of a stock take and decided to open all the packages and seems I am short half a house, most of the Manor House and no gate house. Appears that I have a lot of bricks though and may need a trip up into the loft to see if I have missed anything. If not I will need to get creative and come up with my own versions. To that end bought an Aedes Ars kit that contains 2 houses, a house and forge, a pigeon house and another church. The church is out of scale with the rest of the buildings at 1/150. Will use the church material to supplement any gaps in the other buildings and the pigeon house I may turn into a bastion. Initial impressions of the kit is that it is a good set coming with glue, scenic material and the quality of the bricks far superior to the ones in the old Del Prado kit. Really enjoying this type of build and would recommend this to anyone. GrandpaPhil, Egilman, popeye the sailor and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekis Posted July 18, 2020 Share #18 Posted July 18, 2020 Looks like you're falling into a big addictive trap! 🤪😁 Canute, Old Collingwood, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Work: www.flickr.com/photos/133075291@N04/albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waitoa Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share #19 Posted July 19, 2020 14 hours ago, Ekis said: Looks like you're falling into a big addictive trap! 🤪😁 True, your build quality is feeding the addiction 😃😃😃 Old Collingwood, Canute, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekis Posted July 19, 2020 Share #20 Posted July 19, 2020 Sorry... 🤣 Waitoa, Egilman, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Work: www.flickr.com/photos/133075291@N04/albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waitoa Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share #21 Posted July 21, 2020 Trying to tie the cloister wall into the church’s brickwork. Still using the old Del prado bricks but the Aedes Ars is so much better quality it is hard not to start using all of those. Used one as the windowsill which shows the contrast. Egilman, Ekis, popeye the sailor and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekis Posted July 22, 2020 Share #22 Posted July 22, 2020 I think it's going to be really hard to continue with the original stones... 😁 popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Work: www.flickr.com/photos/133075291@N04/albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waitoa Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share #23 Posted July 24, 2020 For some reason I have Pink Floyd songs going through my head, couldn’t resist using the Aedes Ars bricks for the buttresses lmagna, Edwardkenway, GrandpaPhil and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waitoa Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share #24 Posted August 3, 2020 First attempts at roofing aren’t great but good news by the end of this will have had a lot of practice. Also intend to have around 40 people added and are using Preiser figures from their Medieval festival along with some market pieces. All I have to do now is paint them all. Waitoa mtaylor, EricWilliamMarshall, popeye the sailor and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waitoa Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share #25 Posted August 4, 2020 Some of the townspeople, more fun than doing the roof Edwardkenway, GrandpaPhil, Egilman and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waitoa Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share #26 Posted August 5, 2020 Getting better at the roofing, also the start of a market scene Papa, Ciciak35, Egilman and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekis Posted August 5, 2020 Share #27 Posted August 5, 2020 Those Preiser action figures are nice. You must have spent a long time painting them... I'm not sure if I'm going to put them in the village: I'll decide when the construction is finished. But I had also spotted the "Mittelaltermarkt" pack to paint. Egilman, popeye the sailor, Canute and 5 others 8 Quote Work: www.flickr.com/photos/133075291@N04/albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waitoa Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share #28 Posted August 6, 2020 16 hours ago, Ekis said: Those Preiser action figures are nice. You must have spent a long time painting them... I'm not sure if I'm going to put them in the village: I'll decide when the construction is finished. But I had also spotted the "Mittelaltermarkt" pack to paint. Hi, The figure painting wasn’t too bad just have another 30 to go. They are a real mixed bag in terms of periods and dress and some of them are from a Christopher Columbus set. Would estimate about 40 useable ones with the remainder being modern and going to end up on my son’s train board. There are some pre-painted town guards and other pieces which I may get but these have not been released yet. Some ahistorical potatoes and orange carrots in the market place and sure no one else will spot them at this scale. Adding the people more as a distraction from some of my mistakes. Canute, popeye the sailor, Ekis and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted August 6, 2020 Share #29 Posted August 6, 2020 Loving tha addition of the figures - it so brings it to life. OC. mtaylor, Canute, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waitoa Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share #30 Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Old Collingwood said: Loving tha addition of the figures - it so brings it to life. OC. Thanks, watching your build and resisting the urge to have an assault on the walls... popeye the sailor, Canute, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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