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"..History became legend. Legend became myth..."

 

And again ...

 

Unknown voice from silence:

 

"Nenad, have you ever heared anything about measuring and checking measure?"

 

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"No, I don't" I answered "What is this for?"

 

(Scary Devil's laugh in the back)

 

"A-ha-ha-ha..."

 Nenad, don't think you are doing so bad building this model, you started out the hard way and have been learning new things all the way, the result so far is a good model with some exceptional detail while becoming an expert on the Cutty. Don't change horses in mid-stream and go faultless on us, that would ruin the trip and the model.

Way I heared it was; measure twice and wack it off with an axe.

jud

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All this is hobby and, under all, great fun, Jud.

 

Speaking of axe ... this days I read exelent historical book about Vikings: 

  The World of the Vikings by Arnulf Krause.

and have read years ago some popular novels about them ( Tim Severin: Viking I and II, Bernard Cornwell: the last Kingdom series, etc etc)

 

In popular history, beside long boats, first association for Vikings are their terrific axes, having in mind type of axe we have seen in LotR as Gimli weapon. Or famous Tyrion`s axe etc etc

 

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But, popular culture is one thing, and history is another, sometimes even a bit disappointing  

 

Real Viking axe,  at first look are not much different form usual axes we use today to cut woods (Google picture search "Viking X century axe museum"). I do not put in question their skills with axes, but I was relative disappointed when found those pictures  

 

So, which axe do you suggest to me to use ? ;)

 

Maybe this one, made by Rolan Vlahovic, for his gold medal winner model at Kaliningrad 2016 ( Naviga)

 

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I have idea to try it, Carl, but I could not . Buckets I made are glued, and I could not take them. And I do not like water on deck until I finished Her ;)

 

 

There is a great truth in your words, Patrick. I realized it when I started with details on hull, particularly when I started to fill fore deck

 

 

Thanks, Marc

 

Idea for tonight is to try to make capstan bars on port side cabin - eight of them on surface only 8-9 mm wide, which means that particular bar has to be not more than 0,5 mm in diameter

 

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And I have sent my working ants to Patrick, and they do not want to come back - saying, that work conditions are best, food is best, salary is best, model is more interesting, and works go faster

 

:stunned:

 

:im Not Worthy: :im Not Worthy:

Hi Nenad

 

Mmmm! Your Worker Ants were gratefully accepted and have been put to good work! However, the boss ant says that he misses your workshop and Her Majesty. I fear a mutiny is on the cards as they try to jump ship and head back your way!!!! It's so unfair.... ;););)

 

Seriously though, you've gotta be really proud of what you've done. It's a joy to follow your journey.

 

All the best!

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

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That's it ... Capstan bars ... you wake me up for that ! Lovely work, Nenad.they look smashing

 

Thanks Carl. They are made from 0,3 mm brass wire, and they were rather disobey until I glued them. Holder of bars is made from 0,5 mm veneer strips 

 

 

Lovely details Nenad. If there wasn't your hand for reference I would think the scale was bigger than it actually is.

 

Nick

 

Thanks Nick and welcome to my journey. Interesting thing is that when you succesfully make something small, it not seem to you such a small as  it is any more

 

My working ants are not still back home, so I worked in office tonight, not in shipyard.  

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No progress this days ... something that happen` to all of us with 55+ from time to time ... pain in my back - God only knows if it is "rolling sand" from my kidney (yes I have it, I was nice, but expected surprise on ultrasound scanning few days ago), or stiff back from unknown reason as a result of earlier sport injury (show off on the pool when I was 17. during water polo training) or who knows why

 

Or I just have hardened/stiffened on a wrong body part  :D  :D  :D  :D . Princess gave me some pills and it comes better, but still not enough to sit couple of hours in front of bench. Fortunately I have no job in downtown tomorrow, so I can be calm and peaceful ... I hope  

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Don't fret, relax and read a book about Hump Back Whales or something. Hope your pain is gone tomorrow.

jud

 

Thanks Jud. re-read of Viking`s is on line. Pain is still here this morning, combined with tooth pain   :( . Misery never come alone

 

sorry to hear that Nenad............absolutely.......kick back and take it easy.   let's hope it is just a sore back.....her majesty can wait ;)

 

seven blessings to you.......{I forgot.....Cersi took care of that in a big way   ;)   :D   :D :D }

 

Better Daeneris ...

 

 

Sorry to hear about your back, hope nothing else stiffens, which might make you feel awkward ... Perhaps someone can walk over your back ... just a thought (maybe I should come back later ...) get well soon

 

Hothead ( 195 cm and 115 kg) had similar ideas, but I do not intend to spend rest of my life as pancake. Rather agree with Princess idea to perforate some holes in me with injections ... :(

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Your children must really love you, Nenad, else they wouldn't offer such intensive care, and such intreguing solutions ;) ...

 

Perhaps it is better to refrain from their offers, and just get better to work on your Cutty Sark. Best wishes to you

I successfully avoided "construction roller method" and have got my first hole (1 of 3) to my back today, and it is much much better -I am considering option to mount couple of eye

-bolts in my holes, it can be usefull ;) - but ... office job suddenly expanded to Friday ( from 08-21h), Saturday and Sunday expected whole day, and her Majesty must be patience for a while

 

Adrian, Prince of Persia Kingdom, and the undisputed lord of our house, (untill my new puppy arives :D:D:D ) has not patience, and do not decided to leave me to finish my work, he decided to sleep right between me and keyboard, and that lasts whole day ...

 

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And to solemnly publish great news - my new friend, Bobtail puppy is born couple of days before, and I just can not wait two months to take him to my place and his new home

 

First photos of Her (female) with her sister on their mother - only two days old

 

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Sorry about the pain...  I hope it gets better.     What a great looking puppy, but be patient.  Sort of like model ship building.. we just have to wait on some things.  ;)

 

You get a cat on the lap, I get a dog.  Hmm...  they pick the most inconvenient times to take a nap.

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Gibbs is below my chair..........I have to rub his ears,  so I can read your update.   glad your feeling better.   cute puppy.........I enjoy having a puppy......both our dogs came to us this way.   I fear though that Gibbs is our last.......jury is still out on that though   ;).    continue to take it easy my friend......it's the only way to a good recovery.   now without further adue........I've held Gibbs off long enough........to the field we go   ;)

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Finished last detail of front companionway

 

 

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Tricky job, considering scale. To get idea how small it is, notice regular cigarette beside

 

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Temporary on place

 

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My back is ok now, my "sand production" is ... Let's say ... Ok ... But I lost another teeth :( and get doubled face for a couple of days with set of pills... That lead me to some prothetic works I didn't planed :( ... $$$$$$$€€€€€€

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Sorry about the pain... I hope it gets better. What a great looking puppy, but be patient. Sort of like model ship building.. we just have to wait on some things. ;)

 

You get a cat on the lap, I get a dog. Hmm... they pick the most inconvenient times to take a nap.

Whenever they sometimes get us angry, I can not imagine my life without pet. Better for my new dog to grow in peace all time it need for. I will be patience. I promiss ... Edited by Nenad
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Gibbs is below my chair..........I have to rub his ears, so I can read your update. glad your feeling better. cute puppy.........I enjoy having a puppy......both our dogs came to us this way. I fear though that Gibbs is our last.......jury is still out on that though ;). continue to take it easy my friend......it's the only way to a good recovery. now without further adue........I've held Gibbs off long enough........to the field we go ;)

Your Gibbs is legendary, Denis. Fortunately, cat did not even try to jump on my shipyard. Only on my desk in office. Better solution, I think

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 After front companionway, next on line is a little research about - hatches

 

Campbell`s plans

 

There are three of them, all on main deck: two „hatches“ – one fore, one central and one „booby hatch“ at back on aft deck

 

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Fore and central hatches are same look, central is a bit larger

They have two rows with 10 coverings each

 

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Booby Hatch looks quite different – raised entrance

 

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Sergal Roma plans

 

Here, things look quite different

 

Fore and central hatch have gratings (!) and they are equal

Booby hatch looks similar as on C-plan

 

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Revel and Airfix

 

Too much simplification for my taste , not valuable to consider more

 

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Artesania Latina

 

AL follows C-plans, quite right

Fore and central hatch are similar as on C-plans, different size, same type of covering

Bobby hatch is also similar

 

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Billing boats

 

Fore and central are the same, with some kind of covering not seen on another plans

Booby is something undefined with doors

 

 

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And Mantua

 

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Ok, let`s see what photos can tell us

 

 

 

 

Fore hatch

 

Fore hatch do not exist more, as a hatch.

Now, this is visitor`s entrance with glass-steel construction

 

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But, on some photos (Thank you very much Lou, again !!! ) there existed different solution !!!!

 

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Central hatch

 

This hatch is only which stayed as hatch. Structure and covering is unknown for me, because on all photos I can find of central hatch, it is covered with some kind of awning

 

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Except on only one interesting photo I found long ago

 

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You can se completely different covering (comparing to C-plans) – six panels with wire netting, and each has own cover !!!!!

 

Hmmm

  

Booby hatch

 

Bobby hatch did not exist long time ago, and I can not find any photo of it

 

Now, at place where booby hatch was, there is rear entrance under deck for visitors, similar as on fore hatch place

 

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So, what is purpose of this analyze ?

 

Considering I plan to spread all sails, it sounds logical to set Her on state as She was on sea. That leads me to C-plans solution (with improvisations and imagination how Booby hatch was looking)

 

But, couple questions stay opened:

 

How to cover fore and central hatch – as on C-plans or with gratings? Or as upper photo with six gratings panels ?

 

And, to cover them with awning  or not ?

 

Maybe is the best, but the more complicated solution – one with covering as on C-plans, another with gratings ( I`ll see in my scale what kind of gratings looks better, and is it possible at all, or it is possible to me to make classical gratings structure on classic way I had seen on MSW), and both covered with awning to half

 

We`ll see ... on my scale, hatches had next dimension:

 

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Hmmm ... this will be really interesting and really challenge !

 

  

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Nenad,

 

I think what you're calling an awning is just a canvas cover over the hatch which would have been normal for the ship at sea. I've seen these in some pictures and in other pictures, it's just the plain wood slats.  The hatches were for access to the cargo area and so had to be protected.  On ships with grates, those were to provide light and fresh air to the crew working on the lower deck.

 

You might ask this in the Deck Furniture area if no one else answers.

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