Cutty Sark by Nenad

[bucknbarney]

OMG! Nenad, this is beautiful man! I am so stoked to get where you are now!

 

Many kudos to you!

[popeye the sailor]

I feel your pain........I have two boys........one is still at home.   but looky what you went and did............looks very nice!    the sheen should calm down in a day or two........it needs to cure.   with a new deck,  it's going to look great! 

[Bugra]

Hey Nenad ; 

 

I can understand what you feeling about your loss. Few years ago, I've learned that I need to protect my tools. During those days, when I need something, always found it in elsewhere. They were broken, warped, used on heavy duty work. From now, I draw a line line hard him between my tools. 

 

Kids ? Oh, no.. It's my DAD!

 

Cheers, Bugra.

Edited February 8, 2014 by Bugra

[NenadM]

As a first aid I bought chinese solderig iron for €3

Edited February 9, 2014 by Nenad M

[Bindy]

Oh no!  Not your tools !!  I bet your boys will be on their best behaviour now!

 

If you look on the bright side though it is a wonderful opportunity to buy new tools!  And maybe you can sneak in one or two extra new tools on your shopping trip haha.

 

But seriously, congratulations on your soldering!

[NenadM]

Bindy, just playing and learning. Yes, there is bright side - even he is almost enginieer, he like to do handworks with my tools. And he is learning too. And I was learning with somebody tools ... Of course, destroyed it .Not big dill - but - JUST TELL ME when you destroy something !!!!

Edited February 9, 2014 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

It is told:

 

There are not little boys and little girls, and grown man and grown woman. There are only little woman and grown woman, and little boys and grown boys. 

 

Watching my daughter growing, and me and my son, there is so truth in that words...

 

Even in middle ages, we still like to play. Particulary when we have a new tool (= toy)

 

Waiting for a lunch, I played with new solder iron, talking myself that I am practicing and learning

 

Make some experiments how to heat my fingers ... Lesson learned: NEVER get iron with fingers !!!! It hurts !

 

And some other experiments how to make stanchions

 

 

After trying different materials and technics, it seem I find acceptable solution ( on right side of picture)

 

 

 

And my pride, accidentaly soldered little ring. Evin if I know how to repeat this ...

 

 

All made of cooper wire from thin telephone cable and one needle

 

There have to be and will be more practice

Edited February 9, 2014 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

Enough playing ... Started another inside bulwark tonight. Must first apply some putty, than "hidden" strip, and then slow cutting and glueing with short veneer thined pieces

 

2+4 working hours = enough for today

Edited February 9, 2014 by Nenad M

[Piet]

That's a nice looking ring Nenad, bravo!

 

Cheers,

[rfolsom]

Stanchion tests are looking good, Nenad;  I'm still playing with my Al rivet strips and experimenting with cutting freeing port lids.  Hope to have some progress shortly...

 

Looking forward to seeing how your stanchions look with all your inner bulwark detail!

 

Bob

[NenadM]

Little analyse about making and mounting stanchions

 

 

In my scale, width of panel section ( pos b ) is 5mm

 

Visualy, width of nail holder is max about 1,5-2 mm ( pos a )

 

Comparing width of position (a) and width of stanchions (2) max thickness of wire is 0,5 mm

 

That means that position 3 - rings are about max 0,5 mm in outisde diameter. Just impossible to make for us mortails. On some positions, on photos, there is another movable ring throught the standing ring !!!!! But, rings are really nice touch and very nice detail, so they must be there in my opinion. So, they must be larger than a scale. I am not able to make smaller than 2-3 mm, and that will be only solution

 

And I want rings badly !

 

It seems that there is some little space in corner (cca 1mm) ??? And it is visually hidden 

 

And position 1 !!!!

 

It maltreat me roughly. I am able to solder this, but they are only 3-5 mm long, and I do not know to solder them without even a little parallel pieces of wire, and it reflects with double thickness of 1/3 stanchions lenght, and disgrace elegance of stanchions, so I gave up, and imagine they are not here on CS ... 

 

 

Edited February 10, 2014 by Nenad M

[popeye the sailor]

what you would need to do is solder two pieces of straight wire together at the proper angles and then trim to fit.   a jig might be helpful.

          as you get more familiar with it....I'm sure you'll figure it out      looking good Nenad....don't stop experimenting !

[NenadM]

....I'm sure you'll figure it out      ...

 

Popeye, that`s exactly point   

[rfolsom]

Nenad, I experimented with the transverse member (position 1) and found out it was not worth the time and effort for me.  If you could find a "lattice" of the correct wire diameter, such as a screen, you might be able to cut T -shaped pieces out of it..

[NenadM]

Lattice of wire 0,5 mm with 2x2cm fields ... in Belgrade ?

 

Dreams

Edited February 10, 2014 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

After "short" discussion with Hothead, that he can not drive his bike 30+30 km when outside temperature is 5⁰C, and when he went to bus with grumble, just as I sat alone in the shipyard , sip some coffee , light a cigarette , said "hwosh" and began slicing veneer to continue, Admiral had his rare attack of wish to visit me in my kingdom when I'm working .... " Now that you 've got a new soldering iron , YOU SURE KNOW to fix my favourite broken silver necklace you gave me for *** birthday ." ( I dont remember when I bought this thing )

 

I was speechless , with a necklace on desktop ... It is not hard to make a fish in the water , so I put away shredding , took the iron and went to work . In addition to color changes a little at the place of repair ( fake silver - plated copper ! ) , I did it mostly successfully , and Admiral starts purring like a kitten ....  

 

Another law of ship modeling: If you want a new tool, first think about use of it for Admiral needs

 

Of course , instead of returning back to veneer , I continued to play where I left off yesterday (pardon , to practice soldering )

 

And here are the results : 1:0 for me, and 1:0 for failure. Right stanchion has too big primary ring. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think it is what it have to be, almost in scale,  with a little more future care and patience . The white color is placed only tentatively , and rails are improvisation from the scrapbox , for a total of visualization

Edited February 10, 2014 by Nenad M

[popeye the sailor]

never a dull moment.........eh,  Nenad :D     your on a positive track.......it's all good!

[rfolsom]

Nenad;  How are you forming your stanchion rings?  I twisted mine around a drill bit and pulled taut with two pairs of pliers.  This seemed to form a consistent ring.  Looking good so far;  eager to see more....

 

Bob

[NenadM]

How are you forming your stanchion rings?  

 

Bob

 

I have seen some tutorial and get ideas. In further experiment, I ll try with less diameterer

 

In draft hand drawing, this is it

 

 

 

PS, we are actually shipochollics. Sitting in office, we are on MSW , not on day jobs ...

[NenadM]

Veneer slices slices slices .... And Led Zeppelin in background ... with Hibiscus tea. Two working hours and moved only 10 cm on another inside bulwark ...

[NenadM]

Come home late and find Hothead in workshop making something for his music studio with my tools from 4mm plywood. Shock defender for microphone or something... Something like this by his own drawings ... all made by hand carving saw ( He burned my Einchell )

 

 

 

Proud daddy about his inexperienced but very precise hands... 

 

She sit still, silenced in her dry dock in Her cabinet above, with hope not to be seen ...

I intend, but It was too late to remember him to some quotes from movies

THIS WORKBENCH IS NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR TWO OF US

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE

Maybe ... he will be interested one day in wood ship works ... Very precise fingers until he was born.

 

First time he use hand tools and cut ring from 4 mm plywood thick 5 mm with 20 cm in diameter from one piece with perfect rounded edges ... and whole thing is not broken ...

 

Of course, daddy was happy to help him in most difficult little parts of his construction 

 

 

Edited February 13, 2014 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

Still helping to Hothead in his efforts, with sad looks toward Her Majesty

Edited February 14, 2014 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

My name is not Nenad. My name is Christopher Columbus II

 

Yesterday I discovered America. Trough world you must walk with eyes wide open

 

Searching on Internet for different type of wires for stanchions, I accidentally strayed to some web pages with materials and tools for making imitation jewelry and other designated to "woman(?)" hobby. I am not sexist. Yesterday I was looking at some very good clips on Youtube with instructions for soldering where ladies teach us how to solder silver jewlery, and learned a lot. Also I am delighted seeing ladies on MSW. 

 

Wow. really WOW

 

Different type of wires, all thickness, all colours, different materials ( Cu, Ag, ....) for less than 1€ for 100m, chains with different thickness, tools for pulling thread through small holes, tweezers all kind of, all type of needles useful for making something by soldering, etc etc etc .....

 

Plastic little parts, glass little parts, brass cooper silver little parts, wooden little parts, acrylic colours in enormous variety, paintbrushs ... so many to describe all 

 

Never cross my mind to look there

 

Must go viewing shop windows 

 

Also I must try making stanchions from old guitar E1 string (banged my mind yesterday)

 

Obviously, day of discoveries 

 

PS

 

Finally repaired my Einhell set for 8€. To reject the Hothead of pocket money ?

Edited February 14, 2014 by Nenad M

[popeye the sailor]

ahhhhhh....another person to see a jewelry dept in a different light.... :D :D   I have found the jewelry dept to be a good place to find eye bolts,  eyelets and things that can be fashioned into bracketing and such.   there are also inlays and intricate stuff that works well for decorations.    the bead dept is also a good place.

 

you perhaps should charge him.........but I wouldn't..............................................a lesson learned once,  is a lesson well learned 

[NenadM]

Popeye you are right as usuall. VERY VERY well learned lesson. We did together some stuff tonight and he is like kitten 195 cm high

 

I bought today 0,8 mm jewelery steel wire, and do some experiments, to try different technical and visual approach. Tried and successed to solder primary ring direct to stanchion. It looks good. I am too blind for smaller rings + do not know to make them 

 

Also decided to leave solution with two rings. They are even small, and second ring will not be visible as ring, rather as a crumpled wire

 

It seems that most in scale will be steel wire and 2mm ring of cooper wire 

 

 

Edited February 14, 2014 by Nenad M

[popeye the sailor]

I see a direction forming here...........excellent!  your tests are looking very good......I wish you well in coming up with the finished product 

[mathewp]

A lot of my tools came from jewelry supplier. The tool sets required are quite similar. Keep up the nice work Nenad.

[Sailor1234567890]

I think the left one in the pic of the two stuck in the foam is the nicer of the two. Great job Christopher Columbus.

[NenadM]

It is february. It have to be snow with -5 to -10 C. Outside is 18 C and beautifull "spring" day, with sun that pull you outside from shipyard ...

[Lou van Wijhe]

It is february. It have to be snow with -5 to -10 C. Outside is 18 C and beautifull "spring" day, with sun that pull you outside from shipyard ...

Even in Sotsji they don't have enough snow! And in Britain they have too much water. Everything is in disorder...

 

Lou