Cutty Sark by Nenad

[NenadM]

Next big question : extra weight - yes or no. I open related topic on MSW

Edited November 20, 2013 by Nenad M

[popeye the sailor]

I have never had to add extra weight in my builds.   if it's to be bolted to the stand, I see it even less.   it's more of a preference thing....it's up to you

 

I know how you feel..........we had a very wet end to june.....as a rule,  I hate to cut the grass when it's wet.   this means having to scrape under the deck after I'm done........the less I do under there,  the better.  so needless to say,  I had a jungle outside.  now we are having a hot spell,  so it took me two days to get the lawn back into shape.   I have a used lawn mower that was here when the previous tennants moved out.  the self propell wasn't working,  but I fixed it and got it working great!   yesterday,  I started to mow,  and I hit the curbing around the front yard,  and it took out all of the under carriage.......the self propell is wiped out!  I had to remove it all.........it was wrapped around the blade.   the transmission is still part of the rear wheels........puts resistance in pushing it,  so now it is a chore again.   I need to drop the transmission and replace the existing shaft with simple rear axle brackets,  or an axle rod that goes through both ends.  darn thing's a work in progress.    wish I could find an old mower with a blown engine....it would make life easy.   the engine on this one is very good.........prime and one pull is all it takes!

 

you work in some very beautiful places.........what do you do for work?

[NenadM]

Make life to yourself as much richer and filled as you can. Depends only of you

Edited October 17, 2013 by Nenad M

[popeye the sailor]

I can only go as far as the leash will reach.........the ball is quite heavy...LOL!!   I still have my fun though 

[NenadM]

And tonight there is some progress - finished primary planking layer of bow, and lets go to finish same thing on stern

 

For now it seems like a mess, but there will be sanding and covering and sanding, and after that second layer of planking. Main line is obviously - here

 

Edited October 17, 2013 by Nenad M

[Anja]

Hello Nenad,

 

Congratulations on finishing the hull planking.

 

Enjoy the sanding. Just keep the end result in mind ..... A smooth hull.

Keep up the good work.

 

Anja

[NenadM]

And when we come to bow, there is waiting same thing again. It is obviously that TEHNODIDAKTA`s Cutty needs some extra ribs, if you use this way of planking with short strips. Existing outside rib line is to much sharp-broken on existing ribs mounted as in sheet

 

 

And there is way I use to get middle line between existing ribs outer line

 

 

And the way to transfer it to the plywood with tracing paper and transparent paper tape. If it is necessary, you can bold lines on paper tape

 

 

 

Surely, there is a little trap noticed in post #7. Horizontal line on every rib is not at same height (deck curvature). There  is no short and easy way to get precise position (because the slope of the deck), and you must try, and chek, and fine touch up, relying on your own sense. After mounting it, everything is now clear, and there is much smoother and much proper line of rib¨s outside

 

 

Bearing in mind that additional rib has no bearing designed to keel, here is the way how to glue extra rib and how to put and fix right horizontal and vertical angle of rib

 

Edited July 8, 2013 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

Thank you, Anja

 

That will be great challenge, but I believe in my self and to my sense and hands and almost sure it will be all right.

 

Fortunately, there are on internet many pictures of bow and hull of Cutty in London from different angles, helping to compare every step

 

For example

 

 

 

 

 

and we will see 

Edited November 21, 2013 by Nenad M

[popeye the sailor]

nice work on the Bow Nenad....hope you have good progress with the stern.   you'll have a fair amount od sanding to follow.   are you going to copper the bottom hull?   you could go two ways with this........copper the bottom and second plank the upper part of the hull,  or second plank the entire hull and copper afterwards.   either way,  I think would work well 

[NenadM]

Hello. Popeye

 

Looking pictures of Cutty, attached on post #22 and second picture on post #83.. and espetialy this

 

 

it is quite clear that coopering follow after planking. And that is my plan (for now).

 

Also, If you carefully look at this pictures, you will ll see that coopering cover all plates under, so they can not be seen. That situation arise some other ideas (line of veneer just to the line of cooper). Final decision depends of coopering material I can find in Belgrade when times come.

 

I must comment that cooper plate you can order and bye, that most commonly modellers use on most models I have seen, is very same on every model, and I do not like this. In next picture you can see what I mean

 

 

In my opinion, dimension of cooper plates must correspond  as much as it is possible to dimension of original cooper plates

 

For now, I think I find a way to bring something that will most resemble the original ship, its color of "coopering" and appearance. I still have no clear and bright idea, but there are times to go there

Edited November 21, 2013 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

Forward slowly to the bow...

 

Very like Mark`s thought and often remember that  "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient."

Edited November 21, 2013 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

In posts #4 and #5 Matt (aka Sven) and John ( aka Tarbrush) asked what scale is my model, and I had no answer

 

In mean time, thanks to  FB modeler group in Serbia, one member posted scanned old TEHNODIDAKTA catalog from 1984 in which I read that my Cutty Sark model is in scale 1:100. Catalog is in Serbian (Croatian, 1984 it was one), but words 1:100 are there

 

 

 

Memories and sentimental feelings of excitement 30 years ago while I was waiting for my kit arrives

 

In that catalog also were offered ship kits for next models

 

- Jadran ( school sailing boat of former YU navy)

- Constitution

- Nava from Dubrovnik

- Bounty

- Santa Maria

-Cutty Sark

- Galley ship from Dubrovnik

- Bracera

 

and few more

 

TEHNODIDAKTA stayed somewhere in history, but some old plans are preserved by modelers. One of this plans is actual even today in MSW building logs (Bracera by Wishmaster)

Edited November 21, 2013 by Nenad M

[Albuk]

What does the catalog say about Bracera's scale? Is it 1:15 or 1:20?

 

Cheers,

Alex

[NenadM]

Alex

 

Unfortunately, the entire catalog is scanned, only a few pages, Bracera is missing. I will send a message on FB asking to scan that page, so I'll answer to you. In mean time, on MSW there is topic , Wishmaster wrote that he work by TEHNODIDAKTA plans in scale 1:20

 

Bracera by Wishmaster - scale 1:20

 in Scratch Build

 

Edit 10-07-2013  13:00

 

I got a message from FB - in that catalog there is no Bracera ... In post # 87 that was my assumption, and bad memory. Sorry for mistake

Edited November 21, 2013 by Nenad M

[Albuk]

Thank you Nenad. I know about Wishmaster's scale. I work with the same plans and was wondering which scale is the true one as I was told it is 1:15.

 

Alex

[Wishmaster]

Hello my friends,

 

1:15 could be also a right scale I found somewhere on internet that Tehnodidakta's bracera is 1:20.

[NenadM]

After short jump to history of ex-YU kit models

After short jump to scale of Bracera. and

 

... after short trip to Manasia monastery (again today, climbing on fortres)

 

 

and after " You could water the flowers and spread laundry while I watch my soap opera "

 

Here we go again on Cutty.

 

Primary layer of planking is almost done. Just one evening of working left.

 

Uhh...

 

Lasts more than a month

 

Two sides of the ship, 23 inter spaces, at about 20-25 strips per area = about 1000 strips. Each of them, measure, cut, fit, intends glue, apply glue, fit, and again next : measure, cut ...

 

Boring. Boring. Boring. i wanna do something which is not - planking (at least - sanding)

 

And someone said to love planking?

 

Edited March 20, 2014 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

And a great news !  Expecting to appear one more Cutty Sark scratch build topic on MSW.

 

Dognut, come one, we are impatient !!!!

 

Support Dognut !!!

Edited October 17, 2013 by Nenad M

[popeye the sailor]

always room for one more!    great progress Nenad! 

[Anja]

Hello Nenad,

 

You will get there. You are making good progress. As you said, almost there.

Just replace the words boring, boring, boring with learning, skills, and knowledge.

 

Looking forward to seeing the hull closed.

 

Anja

[NenadM]

Thank you Anja

I am joking, really like and enjoy in every building step I made.

Believe or not, every of 1000 strips has his own story and own conditions, particular and specific request to fit just in place where it belong. Or where and how i want to put it. And every single strip has his own will, and we had to fight in "hull wars". Will against will. Wood against man. Patience against time. Pleasure against frustration. etc etc. And unexpected ally - lot of thinking about next steps

Great experience for furthrer steps,and also creativity in resolving each of 1000 little problems

Edited October 17, 2013 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

Finally, primary planking layer is set. First "Hull war" is over, and I win, interrupted by my son motorcycle brake problems

 

Edited March 20, 2014 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

In post #67 I targeted question about protecting small and sensitive parts during sanding. During FHW (first full war) I came up with this

 

 

 

Little styrofoam on deck and plain paper tape used by painters, who has a great feature that after the second and third layers hardened enough to protect what I want

Edited March 20, 2014 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

And, of course, anxious and slightly nervous start sanding (just to see how it goes).

 

Get in the game "Dremel" for rough corners that protrude

 

 

Hot on his heels coarse sandpaper on the painter's podium

 

 

Reduced level of boarding to the zero level of keel

 

 

I am satisfied with the initial results

 

Edited March 20, 2014 by Nenad M

[Anja]

Hello Nenad,

 

So you have won the first 'Hull War' .... Congratulations

And you've found a way to protect the delicate parts of your ship.

 

You did good.

 

Anja

[NenadM]

Every model has soul and personality, remembering your passion and love, and returning it to you by something that can not be told, but what can be sensed in whole image of finished ship

Edited October 17, 2013 by Nenad M

[mtaylor]

Every model has soul and personality, remembering your passion and love, and returning it to you by something that can not be told, but what can be sensed in whole image of finished ship

 

Very well said.  And very true.

[edmay]

Hello Nenad,An interesting build and an interesting builder,your English is fine,MSW is a great learning tool with friendly, helpful, comradeship,will follow your log,Edwin.

[NenadM]

Sanding and polishing model resembles Aladdin's magic lamp. Rub, rough and gentle, and a Genie will appear ...

 

It remains only to prepare wishes

Edited October 17, 2013 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

And I gently rubbed model, and Genie appear

And He said: Give me some putty

And I gave him some

and He was statisfied

 

 

 

 

And Genie said: You can go to sleep now

And I have done so

Edited March 20, 2014 by Nenad M