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Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

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 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

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Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Toward filling aft-deck with it`s content, I made little sketch as a reminder

 

I hope I didn`t forget anything

 

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Wheel box, pinrails and fire bucket structures are most serious parts. Harnes Gasks also

 

Ok, step by step

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She is looking wonderful Nenad. 

 

Current Builds:  Revell 1:96 Thermopylae Restoration

                           Revell 1:96 Constitution COMPLETED

                           Aeropiccola HMS Endeavor IN ORDINARY

Planned Builds: Scientific Sea Witch

                            Marine Models USF Essex

                            

 

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Thanks for nice comments and likes, gentleman

 

Bollards and Fairleads on aft-deck.

 

Dimensions in my scale:

 

Fairleads; 4x2x1 mm ( for now I have idea to try something with used staples ...)

 

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Bollards: 7x4x4mm , they will be made on same/simillar way as on a fore deck

 

I did some research job and have got some conclusions

 

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First, position of Fairleads is determined by position of holes of future main rail fence. ( red dots on drawing)

Second, comparing to C-plans, bollards are moved and placed  near pin-rail

 

Pin-rail itself is also moved a bit aft, and a bit closer to cabin

 

So, it seems that I am ready to mark positions for fence holes, and to make Bollards and Fairleads tonight ( if yesterday situation with sudden dear quests from 20:30 to 00:30 did not repeat)

In progress:

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Ok, today task - fairleads

 

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Staples are ... hmm ... pretty disobedient, and I recoursed to my favorite material - 0,5 mm Cu telephony wire on a wooden base 1mm

 

First step with Ca glue

 

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Fine tuning with "dremell" and fine sandpaper

 

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Colored and on thumb nail

 

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And on place

 

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Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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Looks convincing Nenad, nice work indeed.

Yes, staples are hard steel and unless you anneal them they can be difficult to work with at this scale. 

 

Anneal over flame to cherry red and let cool to room temp.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

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Thank you Piet

 

Today's task

 

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Bollards made from BBQ strips

 

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Almost painted

 

 

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White dot is rounded hat on top ;)

 

And just testing

 

Also BBQ strips

 

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With color

 

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Main problem is - how to make them strong in this scale

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http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

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Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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Looks pretty perfect to me, Nenad.  I'm in awe that you're doing this without power tools.  It's amazing work and it looks like the spice is flowing again.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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you are an expert in the details and detective work. you might have been the perfect Crimean seen investigator :D

 

Buteful worke B)

 

Thx friend for nice words. Unfortunately, I don't like field of crime law attorney practice, in the way it works in my country. Far away from real defense job, judge and prosecutor both at same side against your client and you ... and thin evidences and logic just mean - nothing. But "trade" and fear mean - everything. There is no place for you there if you are honest, ethic, and full professional type of attorney. I do not like to work in this field, so I turned myself to corporate, labour, sport and civil law field 32 years ago

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Looks pretty perfect to me, Nenad. I'm in awe that you're doing this without power tools. It's amazing work and it looks like the spice is flowing again.

 

BBQ strips have exactly same diameter as my "Einhell" rotary tools, so ... at slow speed, short pieces, sandpaper and "exacto", playing until I catch line of moves, and that is it. Not bad for this scale. Basement is made from two glued square 4x2mm strips, drilled through to dia of toothpick,Ca glue, veneer down, so here it is. When I start making final, I'll show whole process. I found BBQ stuff more stronger than another wooden pieces I have. They can not be fine fine fine sanded without putty, because of their longitudinal "bamboo" structure, but in this scale, it just can not been seen

 

Bollards have bigger dia, and I made them without rotary tool. They are small and will be hidden under ropes etc, and it just does not matter. Thx for following and support, Mark

 

BTW, yes, spice is all around, and it flows ! My social life comes back, little moves forward in job also, kids are well and I enjoy in their success and moving forward in life, and almost everything seems to be ok. (OK, as every attorney, I am good in lies ;) ... Admiral still miss me very much, but it seems I started to learn to live with it)

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Very nice Nenad! Nice work! :)

Thanks George. Just thinking ... Visually, pin rails are very attractive part as deck end of rigging lines, and in my scale (app1:100) they are really really small. If I had any idea about that, probably I'll chose 1:75 or even 1:50. But then, She would be 1,25 or 1,5 meters long! With glass cage, min 0,3m longer! Too large for living room. On 1:100 scale, She is almost at the very end of size for my living room (4,5x5,5m). Hmmmmm

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Working drawing in AI with C-plans 1:1 at background, and measurement for pin rails .... huh ...

 

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It seems they have to be a bit enlarged ... more testing, visual this time, has to be done 

 

BTW, you can see comparing to photo in post #2870 that "pillars" are a bit higher than on C-plans, so ... here is a space for enlarging : Pillars to 10-11mm, longitude of rail to 20mm and width to 3mm, width of pillars at base to 3-4mm ... we will see ...

 

:10_1_10:  :10_1_10:  :10_1_10:

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George.....same question here. Somehow, I don't think we are referring to the southern style pulled pork sandwich (loaded with sweet slaw) I enjoyed last night.

Dave

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Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch)....

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Answer :

 

Bamboo, sort of

 

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Interesting material. Strong and pretty fat longitudinal fibres not connected strong. Hard to cut and almost impossible to fine sand and use, for instance, as spar and masts. Impossible to be used for dead eyes and small consistent parts, But very strong and resistant to latitudinal and longitudinal force. With patience, can be shaped in rotary tool, if you do not need glass surface. My choice is result I do not have adequate rottary tool to be used with solid wood, only Einhell, and 2-3mm dia stick fit perfectly in jaws, so I played a bit

 

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Brilliant idea on the bamboo.  The only use I've seen until now is for treenails but this is opening some possibilities....  many possibilities.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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So BBQ is BAMBOO!
I agree, Bamboo is wonderful Nenad.
Most of my SOS (current build) hull is bamboo planks, and both of my Mayflower models have bamboo hulls.
I love the grain, and the beauty of the finish.
It is so strong, yet can be bent and shaped without fear of snapping.
Modelers who have not discovered the unique qualities of bamboo should definitely give it a go.

My favorite source, by the way, is a bamboo serving tray that can be purchased at most Walmart stores (seen here).
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Cheers
Dave

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very nice progress Nenad.........love how you made the fife posts....very nice shape indeed!    ...and freehand no less.....impressive!   I second that on the bamboo....you couldn't have picked a sturdier wood for those posts  ;)

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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You are so kind, Denis. Thx for nice words and the like

 

So, I enlarged whole structure a bit to be able to do anything, and here it is ... In 100% scale, pillars in their largest diameter are thinner than toothpick, and horizontal molding has to be less than a 1mm thick, and pins thinner than 0,5 mm. All this can be seen on a little drawing on a paper below, at a photo No#1. I am not sure, even I eventualy succed to make it so small, that structure aven made of bamboo can hold any force of a one single attached rope line. So, my decision was to overscale a bit just to get some additional strenght, and to make it possible to be made for my fat fingers and bad eyes.

 

All is made from bamboo (except base of pillars)...

 

So, last attempt or first of two ... ... We'll see ...Something to think about over night

 

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Temporary on place with bollard. Pins are brass wire 0,75mm dia, painted with acrylic. It seems to be pointless on such a scale to thin diameter of lower part of pins.

 

Considering I have seen CS kits where pinrails on aft deck are doubled size, I think it all will be just fine

 

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Only left to drill and mount brass wire as future connection to deck

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Nice work Nenad, well done.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

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Your efforts paid off well, Nenad.  The pinrail is perfect.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

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Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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looks great Nenad........how many more do you have to make?

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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There are two of standing pin-rails on aft deck Denis, one on fore deck, and couple on main deck near masts, with more complicated structure. Also there are longitudinal pin-rails along both bulwarks inside

But, you know that, Denis

After having a good day with kids celebrating their birthdays (feb 22 and 24), I made last testing, trying to make pinrails more in scale (not painted)

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Some conclusion and thoughts...

This time I used toothpick (bamboo) for little pillars, and cut all only by hand and scalpel. Thinner, yes, but more more fragile, and ... whole structure is more weaker

I can not shrink their tallnes more, because then I will lose their look with this nice curvature on only 5mm long space

I reduced lenght for 5mm, and result is - bunch of pins in very small space, so I was forced to use 0,5mm wire for pins to get proper look. That opened question about thickness of ropes and lines supposed to be attached there ... Human hair ? I think - no

And here is my question: is there any point to do this in scale when you can not use it to be nice?

And conclusion: some elements just have to be and must be a bit overscaled

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In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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Nenad,

 

You are right, small scales force compromise. Sad because that smaller version of the pin rail looks superb. A lovely piece of work.

Ian M.

 

Current build: HMS Unicorn  (1748) - Corel Kit

 

Advice from my Grandfather to me. The only people who don't make mistakes are those who stand back and watch. The trick is not to repeat the error. 

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Like many things in life, Nenad, there's a compromise.  A bit overscale won't hurt the final appearance and it's better to have the strength you need than to get way beyond this and suddenly the part breaks.   

 

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Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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