Papa Posted July 13, 2020 Share #1 Posted July 13, 2020 Since I am waiting for some wood form ModelExpo I thought I’d try this old kit that’s been in my stash for some 20 years I think. Not much detail and only 2 sprues plus a clear parts sprue. Should be a quick build. marktiedens, Egilman, lmagna and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted July 13, 2020 Share #2 Posted July 13, 2020 I used to build 1/144 scale airliners - looking forward to this. OC. popeye the sailor, Edwardkenway, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted July 13, 2020 Share #3 Posted July 13, 2020 Anything less than 1/72 is an exercise in assembly and paint.... very fine work.... Takes a real artist.. I'm in.... Canute, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardkenway Posted July 13, 2020 Share #4 Posted July 13, 2020 I'm in, just cos it's a bomber😉 lmagna, Old Collingwood, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share #5 Posted July 14, 2020 I like this scale. A couple of steps and you have an aircraft. lmagna, Egilman, Edwardkenway and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted July 15, 2020 Share #6 Posted July 15, 2020 5 hours ago, ragove said: I like this scale. A couple of steps and you have an aircraft. Yeah, and now, you get to make majik..... popeye the sailor, king derelict, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted July 16, 2020 Share #7 Posted July 16, 2020 at least I've made it here for part of the project! I built a lot of these small scale aircraft when I was younger.......weekend models I used to call them do be careful on 'quick builds' though........some can turn out to take longer than expected looks great Egilman, Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share #8 Posted July 17, 2020 Progress photos mtaylor, Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted July 20, 2020 Author Share #9 Posted July 20, 2020 Well, it’s sort of finished. I lost the top turret. I can’t seem to learn from past mistakes. I will assemble and paint some part and leave it on my workbench to install later. It’s soon forgotten and then lost in a clean-up or something. I have done this so many times. Anyway, I found the identical kit on eBay and will have a replacement in a week or so. I also messed up some decals. The star on each side (Not sure of the correct term) had white stripes attached that went on both sides of the gun windows and up over the top. They just kept curling up on themselves until they were ruined. I will try again when I get the replacement. I also need to make a base for at. It is tail heavy and I needed a small dab of glue to keep the nose down for a photo. Can’t seem to get lead fishing sinkers and nothing else is small enough or heavy enough to hold the nose down. I have the same trouble with the B-24. mtaylor, Jack12477, Egilman and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardkenway Posted July 20, 2020 Share #10 Posted July 20, 2020 Looks good, I liked those small bomber kits when I was younger as they didn't take up too much room 😏 Denis(popeye the sailor) is the fella to tap up for tail heavy bomber solutions 😉 mtaylor, lmagna, Egilman and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack12477 Posted July 20, 2020 Share #11 Posted July 20, 2020 10 hours ago, ragove said: It is tail heavy and I needed a small dab of glue to keep the nose down for a photo. Can’t seem to get lead fishing sinkers and nothing else is small enough or heavy enough to hold the nose down. I have the same trouble with the B-24. Use copper clad steel BBs. They are small and heavy enough to hold nose down. See my Coast Dolphin Guard helo build Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood, Egilman and 5 others 8 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted July 20, 2020 Share #12 Posted July 20, 2020 10 hours ago, ragove said: Can’t seem to get lead fishing sinkers and nothing else is small enough or heavy enough to hold the nose down. I have the same trouble with the B-24. May I suggest non-drying Modeling Clay, available from most any hobby/craft store and very cheap, fill the nose with it and tail sitting is over..... best thing abut it is you can conform it to whatever space you have.... and it doesn't need to be glued in... EG Edwardkenway, Landlubber Mike, Canute and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted July 20, 2020 Share #13 Posted July 20, 2020 Or good old Blu Tack. OC. Landlubber Mike, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share #14 Posted July 21, 2020 I will have to try modeling clay. mtaylor, Canute, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share #15 Posted July 25, 2020 I received my duplicate kit and added the top turret. So she’s done. mtaylor, Baker, Ryland Craze and 10 others 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted July 25, 2020 Share #16 Posted July 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, ragove said: I received my duplicate kit and added the top turret. So she’s done. Good lookin' aircraft.... (couldn't help but notice "Really George" back there in the background, it's a good looker also) B-25B's are one of my favorites, but the heavy gun nosed ones are fun also.... Nice Work! Canute, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share #17 Posted July 25, 2020 Thanks for the nice comment the starfighters are neat looking aircraft Canute, Egilman, king derelict and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted July 26, 2020 Share #18 Posted July 26, 2020 gee......if there was a way to eliminate the turret, with the right decals, you could have done one of Dolittle's planes I have found a kit that has the option to lose the turret.......but every time I try to hit the buy button, the admiral alarm goes off "it's designed to go off before you do!" I've done that with a few tail heavy models.....glue the tires to a home made base.....one good solution I've got a larger scale B 25 J......under the cockpit floor is a great place to put the weights. I normally use either tire weights or derby cars {if they fit}. I'm not familiar with the access you might have with this one though. she came out great........looks really neat! Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share #19 Posted July 26, 2020 At this point, there is no way to access the nose, so glued down she stays. I now have a kit missing the turret. I wonder if I could smooth out the top and do a Dolittle version. popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share #20 Posted July 26, 2020 The Dolittle aircraft seem to have the turret back near the tail. So I will still need a turret 😐 lmagna, Edwardkenway, king derelict and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted July 26, 2020 Share #21 Posted July 26, 2020 I'm pretty sure the lower turret was removed for the Raiders, since their ingress/egress was expected to be at low altitude. mtaylor, king derelict, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted July 26, 2020 Share #22 Posted July 26, 2020 39 minutes ago, Canute said: I'm pretty sure the lower turret was removed for the Raiders, since their ingress/egress was expected to be at low altitude. The raiders aircraft were modified B-25B-NA's (the B-25 painted up like Doolittle's at the USAF Museum is actually RB-25D 43-3374) there is only one surviving B-25B and although possible to make her fly, her wing spars have been cut which makes it unlikely... That is B-25B-NA SN 40-2347 the second to the last B-25B NA built and only three aircraft behind Doolittle's 40-2344 If there was one B-25 that could be rebuilt to match a Doolittle's Raiders plane this one is it.... The Bendix retractable belly turret was removed for an extra fuel tank...... The tail gun was removed, as was most of the armament. The latter half of the bomb bay, had a removable fuel tank installed.... they only had two bombs each... one for the primary and one for the secondary targets... Also they each loaded five jerry cans of extra fuel just before they took off... they knew before they ever took off the deck that they probably wouldn't make China... they went anyway..... Fuel was the real limiting factor with the raiders...... they modified enough for the raid with a little reserve I believe it was 32 aircraft. The Aircraft that were remaining after they left were sent back to North American and restored into true "B" models...... A standard production aircraft could not have done it.... popeye the sailor, lmagna, king derelict and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted July 26, 2020 Share #23 Posted July 26, 2020 Yep, they launched further out than the original plan, thanks to the 2 gunboats they spotted. Militarily, it wasn't much of a raid, but it did make the warlords rethink their plans for the home islands perimeter. Fascinating reading of how their thought processes worked. Ought to read "Shattered Sword" to get additional insights into their plans with their fast carrier forces, pilot training and battle damage assessments. Very different from our perspectives. Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway, popeye the sailor and 4 others 7 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted July 30, 2020 Share #24 Posted July 30, 2020 they do have a B 25B kit out there.........I forget who makes it. the early production of this aircraft was perfect for the mission........the weight was less than the future variants, it's size, and how little modifications would need to be done. all of the guns were removed........due to a miscalculation on the weight for take off. I was looking for decals......I was going to do the Ruptured Duck Pacific Wrecks - B-25B "Ruptured Duck" Serial Number 40-2261 I was hoping to use the kit I have, but it won't work.......I'd have to do too much to it. it's a J variant. king derelict, Canute, Edwardkenway and 4 others 7 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Smith Posted August 19, 2022 Share #25 Posted August 19, 2022 No B-25 ever had a “belly turret”. Ever. The top turret was moved from the rearward position that the Early versions like the Doolittle raiders had, to a forward position, like the one on your model kit. The retractable ball turret was “standard equipment “ on B-17 Flying Fortress and B-24 Liberators. popeye the sailor, Canute, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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