Brinkman Posted October 23, 2020 Author Share #91 Posted October 23, 2020 Thanks you for the comments! The ropemaking machine is a really simple build and looks like this on the inside. The red goo is grease. I regretfully got rid of my childhood lego a long time ago and bougth most of this at a fleemarket (they had a big bag for $30 and I just took what I wanted and gave back the rest, the money went to a cat shelter so it was ok) and got some parts from a friend. You can nowerdays buy just the parts you want from some vendors and I could make a partlist if someone wants it. goetzi73, mtaylor and Louie da fly 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted October 23, 2020 Share #92 Posted October 23, 2020 I'd be interested. I wouldn't mind having a ropewalk, but I don't want to pay a fortune for it, and that looks very straightforward t make ( I may regret having written that! ) mtaylor 1 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinkman Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share #93 Posted October 24, 2020 Steven, it's a really simple build! I don't know what the parts cost, but it can't be much. Feel free to ask any questions you have about building and using it. I did a seperate thread for it over in the equipment section Louie da fly, mtaylor and goetzi73 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted October 25, 2020 Share #94 Posted October 25, 2020 Thanks for that Silverman. I've looked at the other thread and bookmarked it. Not likely to do much about it straight away, but I'll definitely get around to it. Brinkman and mtaylor 2 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinkman Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share #95 Posted October 27, 2020 It now has a mast. I have spliced rope before, but never this much! Every end is spliced and even the lanyards connecting the hearts are spliced. The frontstay is of sligthly thicker rope than the backstays as it is a single rope, but the backstays take up a lot of more force. I don't know how I will do with these lanyards in the end, but I know that I will adjust them many times before this is over so I will fasten them like this for now. I know that the "modern" way of fastening hearts is like this but I used splicing with a single seizing instead as I think it looked simpler even if it isn't. Moab, Ondras71, bolin and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted October 27, 2020 Share #96 Posted October 27, 2020 She looks good with that mast stepped. John Brinkman and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted October 28, 2020 Share #97 Posted October 28, 2020 Beautiful work, Silverman. She's really looking good. Ekis, Brinkman and mtaylor 3 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binho Posted October 30, 2020 Share #98 Posted October 30, 2020 That looks so good! Great work! mtaylor and Brinkman 2 Quote Alberto - "Binho" Current Build: Dusek 1:72 Scale Longship Digital Shipyard: Viking-era ships and boats 3D Art: Artstation, Sketchfab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinkman Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share #99 Posted October 31, 2020 Thank you for the likes and comments! The yard is in place. I thougth of a couple of different ways of attaching a block for the halyard at the mast top and decided to rebuild The blocks for the braces are based on finds from a similar ship to mine The aft deck is getting quite busy now Now on to the lifting boom. mtaylor, Ekis, tkay11 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted October 31, 2020 Share #100 Posted October 31, 2020 Very enjoyable following this. I like the unusual blocks. Are you going to have shrouds, or is the bipod mast supposed to make them unnecessary? mtaylor 1 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinkman Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share #101 Posted October 31, 2020 Thank you for asking that Steven! From the start I thought that I didn't need shrouds as the mast is very stable athwartships. But your question forced me to think about it again and now I see that when the lifting boom turns sideways it will try to overturn the mast around point A in the sketch. F1 is the load on the boom F2 is the resulting force as the boom is attached there by tackle. F3 is the force made by the mass of mast, yard and sail. When calculating tourqe I see that the mass of the mast actually is enough to resist it from turning over. And the stays will provide safety margin to keep it safe. Louie da fly and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinkman Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share #102 Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) The lifting boom is in place. It has integrated sheaves as per this image. The two blocks basically are single blocks combined with a heart. One of them is hung from the masttop and the other has a simple S hook. It has a simple step to keep it in place and simple belaying points. Yearlier I mentioned the front bulkhead having removable planks. Here we see just the first plank in place so the boom gets better reach. This ship should have cargo to look complete and I started making barrels. I really like the method I see on this forum where you use a tablesaw to make wedges that you turn barrel shaped. But I don't have the space for a table saw nor a wood turner. So I used a method I saw on pinterest where you make a cylindrical core with a spacer and bend planks around it. The hoops are made from this brush I picked up from a charity shop. The master inspects the first batch of barrels. Now lets do thirty more. The barrels are of the standardized hanseatic league size for transporting herring. Edited November 6, 2020 by silverman834 J11, Baker, Binho and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolin Posted November 6, 2020 Share #103 Posted November 6, 2020 Really nice barrels. I think the master should be satisfied with them. Brinkman and mtaylor 2 Quote Current builds Meta - Billing Boats - Pentikontoros - Navarino Completed builds Swampscott Dory - BlueJacket - Will Everard - Billing Boats - Bohuseka (Swedish west-coast rowboat) - scratch build - Medieval long-ship Helga Holm - scratch build - Sloop from Roslagen - scratch build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted November 6, 2020 Share #104 Posted November 6, 2020 I agree - excellent barrels. John Brinkman and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted November 7, 2020 Share #105 Posted November 7, 2020 Beautiful work, Silverman! Not only the barrels (which are superb - I especially like the hoops made from (millet?) broom bristles), but also that amazing winch. It really makes the vessel come alive! Are you planning to put any people on board? Brinkman and mtaylor 2 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinkman Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share #106 Posted November 7, 2020 Thank you all! Yes, I would like to add people. At least I don't have to do 50 of them ;-). But I'm not sure of how. Either I could aim for something "symbolic", something like my cardboard cutouts but in 3D just to provide a sense of scale. Or I could do something more realistic. But I don't know how to do the clothing. Let's say that I found good poseable figures, then I could either cloth them by sculpting in clay; this would give the best results but I'm really bad at sculpting. Or I could sew. That I can do, but I really don't like the way many figures in this scale loo with sewn clothing as the clothing all look so oversized. There must be similar forums like this for serious dollhouse builders and perhaps they have good methods I should look into. bolin and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted November 7, 2020 Share #107 Posted November 7, 2020 Have a look here: and following pages where Siggi explains how he made the figures from brass sheet and copper wire, and clothes from rice paper. Your ship is 2.5 times the scale and this technique might not work for you - but then again maybe it would! mtaylor 1 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinkman Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share #108 Posted November 7, 2020 That's some amazing work by@Siggi52! It's amazing to see the skills of the people here, thank you for the link as inspiration. Siggi52, mtaylor and Louie da fly 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binho Posted November 10, 2020 Share #109 Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) Absolutely love those barrels, good work! Edited November 10, 2020 by Binho Brinkman and mtaylor 2 Quote Alberto - "Binho" Current Build: Dusek 1:72 Scale Longship Digital Shipyard: Viking-era ships and boats 3D Art: Artstation, Sketchfab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpetr Posted November 10, 2020 Share #110 Posted November 10, 2020 Beautifful barrels. From what material were hoops on real barrels? Because of my ignorance I thought only metal was used for that. mtaylor, Brinkman and Binho 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted November 10, 2020 Share #111 Posted November 10, 2020 26 minutes ago, bigpetr said: From what material were hoops on real barrels? Usually made out of thin willow branches (or wands), split lengthways in half. Nice and flexible, also used in such things as baskets and wattling (making 'woven" fences - or combined with mud to make "wattle and daub" walls for houses). mtaylor, bigpetr, Binho and 1 other 4 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binho Posted November 15, 2020 Share #112 Posted November 15, 2020 On 11/10/2020 at 3:04 PM, bigpetr said: Beautifful barrels. From what material were hoops on real barrels? Because of my ignorance I thought only metal was used for that. Metal hoops on barrels only really became standard in the very late 1800's with industrialization and increased iron production. They existed before, but weren't very common. More common on heavily reused things like buckets, though even then it wasn't that common. Hazel or willow hoops on a barrel during the American Civil War (All barrels I've seen on pictures from the period have hazel/willow hoops) Barrel from a 16th century Spanish or French Shipwreck, I believe. Cooper Niclas Putner from the 1425 Mendel Hausbach Brinkman, bigpetr, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Alberto - "Binho" Current Build: Dusek 1:72 Scale Longship Digital Shipyard: Viking-era ships and boats 3D Art: Artstation, Sketchfab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinkman Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share #113 Posted November 21, 2020 Thank you @Louie da fly and @Binho for the images of barrels, I didn't know willow hoops were used for that long! When I in my post two weeks ago said that I would make 30 more barrels, ie. 33 barrels in total, it was just a rough number. But it turned out to be the exact number I needed to fill the hold. Some barrels turned out worse than others and I marked 15 of them with an X in the ends to make sure that I use them in the bottom layer where they hardly will be seen. I consider the barrels the main cargo but will also make some auxiliary to be stowed elsewhere. My father sailed a lot when he was younger and was a conscript in the swedish navy and when we discussed the ship he only objected to the forestay. He thought it looked too weak to have it fastened in the end of the bowsprit. And I agree so you can see it has moved backwards. And that means I'm back to not really understanding why I have a bowsprit at all. But otherwise he liked the ship which makes me happy. Chuck Seiler, Siggi52, Binho and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolin Posted November 21, 2020 Share #114 Posted November 21, 2020 Really nice looking barrels. All of them. I think your father is right. Tying the forestay to the end of the bowsprit puts a lot of strain to where it is attached to the bow. mtaylor, Brinkman and Louie da fly 3 Quote Current builds Meta - Billing Boats - Pentikontoros - Navarino Completed builds Swampscott Dory - BlueJacket - Will Everard - Billing Boats - Bohuseka (Swedish west-coast rowboat) - scratch build - Medieval long-ship Helga Holm - scratch build - Sloop from Roslagen - scratch build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted November 21, 2020 Share #115 Posted November 21, 2020 She really looks the part with all those barrels stowed in the hold. John Louie da fly, mtaylor and Brinkman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted November 21, 2020 Share #116 Posted November 21, 2020 38 minutes ago, Jim Lad said: She really looks the part with all those barrels stowed in the hold. I hope you're going to tie them down - otherwise they'll come loose and roll her over . . Brinkman and mtaylor 2 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Seiler Posted November 22, 2020 Share #117 Posted November 22, 2020 I love those barrels. I will need to review that part of the log and practice some. Louie da fly, mtaylor and Brinkman 3 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinkman Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share #118 Posted November 22, 2020 Thank you all! Yeah, I think you're right @Louie da fly, they should be tied down. I don't know how to do it so I will put off doing it until I'm forced to come up with an idea 🙂 mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted November 23, 2020 Share #119 Posted November 23, 2020 Maybe some of the experienced people on the forum can help with that. Not me, though - I'm all thumbs. mtaylor 1 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted November 23, 2020 Share #120 Posted November 23, 2020 The simplest way to secure them would be with a net secured over the load. Were rope nets in use at the time? John mtaylor and Brinkman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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