Matt D Posted December 8, 2020 Share #31 Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) On 11/27/2020 at 12:01 AM, Old Collingwood said: if they make it - we will build it This seems like if should be a motto or maybe even a way of life. I feel enriched, OC. Chris, I’m sorry this one didn’t work out like you hoped. I’m looking forward to your next one. Edited December 8, 2020 by Matt D Canute, popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: HMS Winchelsea 1:48 (Group Project) Completed Builds: Virginia 1819 Artesania Latina - 1:41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted December 8, 2020 Share #32 Posted December 8, 2020 Sorry to see this Chris, But I understand, there is a point where we have to regroup, when it stops being fun, it's time to move on.... popeye the sailor, Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted December 8, 2020 Share #33 Posted December 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, Matt D said: This seems like if should be a motto or maybe even a way of life. I feel enriched, OC. Chris, I’m sorry this one didn’t work out like you hoped. I’m looking forward to your next one. Thank you Matt, and like the rest Sorry it didn't work out Chris - some times we are up against a brick wall with some builds. OC. Edwardkenway, popeye the sailor, ccoyle and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted December 8, 2020 Share #34 Posted December 8, 2020 sorry to hear as well......either you have a model that is of poor design, or one that is so ridiculous, that it becomes a chore to build. perhaps one day you'll bring it back out Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood, ccoyle and 2 others 5 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted December 8, 2020 Share #35 Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) Sorry to hear that it didn't work out Chris but it is true that at some point the pleasure can be lost and it is time to move on. Please explain the use for shellacking the formers on a paper kit. I am a complete dummy on paper models. The closest I aver came to doing one was the folded notebook paper flying type made back in grade school when I should have been using the paper for school work. Not very scale but some of them could put your eye out from across the lunchroom! Edited December 8, 2020 by lmagna popeye the sailor, Edwardkenway, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardkenway Posted December 8, 2020 Share #36 Posted December 8, 2020 I can understand your decision, when instructions baffle instead of helping it's time to move on. To steal a motto from UK tv, "when the fun stops, stop!" Egilman, Old Collingwood, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share #37 Posted December 8, 2020 11 hours ago, Egilman said: Sorry to see this Chris, But I understand, there is a point where we have to regroup, when it stops being fun, it's time to move on.... Yep, agree. 10 hours ago, popeye the sailor said: sorry to hear as well......either you have a model that is of poor design, or one that is so ridiculous, that it becomes a chore to build. perhaps one day you'll bring it back out As I said in my introduction, I have finished a model from this designer, so I'm a little taken aback by the overall quality of this kit. Not his best work, and the diagrams -- or lack thereof -- certainly didn't help. I have one other kit from this same designer, and a study of its parts and diagrams suggests that it is more up to the gentleman's usual standards. 2 hours ago, lmagna said: Please explain the use for shellacking the formers on a paper kit. It's a technique for stiffening the internal formers that I have read about but never tried. I'll discuss it more in my intro for the next build attempt (subject as yet undecided). 2 hours ago, Edwardkenway said: I can understand your decision, when instructions baffle instead of helping it's time to move on. To steal a motto from UK tv, "when the fun stops, stop!" Amen! lmagna, popeye the sailor, Edwardkenway and 3 others 5 1 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted December 8, 2020 Share #38 Posted December 8, 2020 Sorry to read of the demise of this build. Understand the stopping when it's not fun. You'll be back, better than ever. Edwardkenway, Egilman, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted December 8, 2020 Share #39 Posted December 8, 2020 Sorry to hear Chris, but sounds like this was the right decision. This is supposed to be a fun hobby. I terminated a wooden ship build and was disappointed in doing so, but either it or myself was going to be thrown out the window so better to just leave it where it stood. Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood, Egilman and 4 others 7 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share #40 Posted December 9, 2020 Well, I'll wrap up this topic by letting you all in on a plan I have been mulling. Since I have two PWS-10 kits and essentially two sets of formers, one printed and one laser-cut, why not just build both of them? 😯 One of the biggest obstacles for me for starting a card model is getting the edge-coloring media correct. With these two kits, the primary colors are shades of gray, brown, and olive drab. I already have most of the paint on hand that I anticipate I'll need to mix the correct shades, so not too much difficulty there. These are also nice kits that I was blessed with gratis by their designer, so I have little in the way of capital investment tied up in them -- nothing to lose, so to speak. Might be important considering my current dreadful run of form on card models. 🙄 Here's a few photos. Three-view of the PWS-10. "White Tail" markings. Spanish Nationalist markings. Laser-cut formers. Of course, if I move forward with this, I will start up a new topic with more details about the plane and kit. Cheers! popeye the sailor, mtaylor, Canute and 8 others 11 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted December 9, 2020 Share #41 Posted December 9, 2020 Choices, choices. Plus laser cut formers. The White Tail intrigues me more. Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor, Egilman and 2 others 5 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted December 9, 2020 Share #42 Posted December 9, 2020 look'in forward to it...........wow! .....a two-fer Canute, mtaylor, Egilman and 2 others 5 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share #43 Posted June 29, 2021 Sad epilogue ... I recently discovered that this kit is not new -- it is a repaint of a kit first published in 2005. Only the livery is new; the design and diagrams are the same. I actually knew that the 2005 kit was not a good one, but I didn't know that this version was a repaint. Had I known this, of course, I wouldn't have bought this kit. Now I'll just have to wait until Halinski or Kartonowa Kolekcja produce a P-36 kit. mtaylor, Baker, Canute and 4 others 5 2 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted June 29, 2021 Share #44 Posted June 29, 2021 39 minutes ago, ccoyle said: Now I'll just have to wait until Halinski or Kartonowa Kolekcja produce a P-36 kit. I don't believe they are planning on designing one... But there is Murph's models version and the Thai Paper Works version... Not quite up to Halinski standards though..... popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted June 1, 2023 Author Share #45 Posted June 1, 2023 I have resurrected this pathetic, long-dead topic only to share with you what can be done with this very kit by those card modeling wizards over in Poland. Oh, that I should ever possess such skills! Curtiss H-75 P.S. Stumbled across that thread quite by accident while searching for info on an unrelated kit. popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted June 7, 2023 Share #46 Posted June 7, 2023 something to experiment with perhaps? mtaylor, Canute and Egilman 3 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share #47 Posted June 7, 2023 31 minutes ago, popeye the sailor said: something to experiment with perhaps? Nope. My kit is already boogered, and I have no great desire to take a second crack at one. mtaylor, popeye the sailor, Egilman and 2 others 5 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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