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It's easier starting with square stock and rounding the round parts with the lathe following the 7-10-7 rule - lots of examples of how to go about that in various build logs. Harder to make a round dowel squared and tapered.  Just a thought...

Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: HMS Winchelsea
Completed Builds: HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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1 minute ago, glbarlow said:

It's easier starting with square stock and rounding the round parts with the lathe following the 7-10-7 rule - lots of examples of how to go about that in various build logs. Harder to make a round dowel squared and tapered.  Just a thought...

Thanks for the advice! 
 

I have seen many people start with square stock, and I tried to go that same route. Unfortunately I can’t seem to find any ramin square stock that I can get shipped for a practical price.  I see tons of birch and poplar but I’m almost anaphylacticly allergic to the pollen of those trees so that wood makes me a little too anxious to use.  I can find pine pretty easily but I’m concerned it won’t stain to the same color as the ramin I have used on the bowsprite.  If I fiddle too much more I may just make the swap and see what happens 🤷🏻‍♂️

Current Build: Amati HMS Fly, First Time Builder, 2020

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On 3/27/2021 at 7:22 PM, TimC said:

Hey Alan!  Great to see you on here.  Thank you for taking a look and your compliments 

 

I am going to put the handles on there.  I just haven’t gotten around to it...got sidetracked with the bowsprite, but they’re still dry fitted so I’ll be adding them in soon

 

are you planning to put a log of your Kearsarge on here??

 

Tim
 

 

Well, here's my weekly post!

Great looking work on the bowsprit and gammoning. I too would prefer the brown line, but then AMS would set in and I might go for the black/tarred look.

As to posting progress reports, at my glacial pace, it will be well into the next decade before I make any headway on the Kearsarge. I'm one of those who keep pursuing more and more references!!! I have the BJ plans, and the minimal plans from the 4-part NRG article from 1999 - 2000, and am now after the as-built plans from NARA, whenever they reopen.

Meanwhile, keep up the beautiful work!

I may see you Tuesday, as I'm to meet Heather there at 10:00.

Algae

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I always used a plane to taper the masts.

I taper the dowels down to the required dimensions, first square, then octagons, then I sand them down to a circle.

With a little practice, it is very hard to get this method wrong.

You do need a well set-up plane with a very sharp blade though, and it can get messy if there are irregularities in the wood.

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More forward progress is being made slowly

 

i did more work on the bow of the ship with completing the netting as well as the main stay collar (?) and the boomkins.  For whatever reason I have been looking forward to completing these portions of the ship...I’m decently happy with the outcome. 82EACBC2-D489-46A2-9E54-E6E101477B8F.thumb.jpeg.172e69259e456a1f67568c11a172f7a7.jpeg115597FD-0205-47EC-ACC3-49CEC2C5E783.thumb.jpeg.ea298c623b912f9971814b13e3f84061.jpeg41F8A866-ACB1-4D89-85AB-C0B3C4A1105F.thumb.jpeg.23c8c43220b45ef6829f63403c60f11b.jpeg


I have also gotten most of the lower portion of the foremast completed including portions of the foretop. Still need to add the railing in. I decided to add the battens to the top and I love the look.  These were fiddy to get to the right shape and fit but the outcome was worth the hassle. 8D175251-C285-4079-8932-6B18F9BE3EB4.thumb.jpeg.545454f9866b8c95ac2d7010a00e1c49.jpeg061722A1-1554-4D7A-884F-FD583DD45D4C.thumb.jpeg.4ebb20c4638eee2b998b1020e7b81f2e.jpeg5C5D02E7-1AEC-460B-ADAB-DE95BF6467B9.thumb.jpeg.cbaa2e7ea2a493f436841e36ae31e2dd.jpeg


 

overall, moving along slowly! Happy Sunday 

 

Tim 

 

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12 hours ago, Blue Ensign said:

Nice progress Tim, great looking gammoning, and wooldings, and nicely shaped False rails. 👍

 

B.E.

Thank you for the kind words B.E. 🙂

 

and thank you @Dfell for the like

 

really appreciate you guys stopping in for a look

 

Tim

Current Build: Amati HMS Fly, First Time Builder, 2020

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  • 1 month later...

Finally have some progress to show after a decent lack of posting.  The masts have taken more time to create than I had planned, plus life and work were getting in the way. 
 

anyway, I have completed the lower masts for the most part and have the upper portions to the proper(ish) dimensions.  I have learned quite a bit along the way that I will carry to other builds such as properly sharpening chisels and how to plan out consistent cuts that have the same depth on 4 sides. I messed up quite a few times on this. 
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Overall I think the results are pretty good to my eye.  Please point out any areas missed or which can be improved! 
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best 

Tim

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5 hours ago, Blue Ensign said:

What are the narrow sections above the heels and fids on the Topmasts, Tim?

 

B.E.

Good morning BE

 

This how I interpreted the instructions based on the images on the plans.  Admittedly I removed more wood than I likely should have.   Is this not how this area should be? image.thumb.jpg.1aabda8a2393dc891a1196d8338d0098.jpg

 

Tim

Current Build: Amati HMS Fly, First Time Builder, 2020

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8 hours ago, Blue Ensign said:

Ah, I see where you're coming from Tim, I think it is a kit simplification, but in the overall scheme of things, once all the top hamper is on, it won't be that apparent.

 

Cheers,

 

B.E.

 

 

Thanks BE. I did go back and reference your build after your first comment and I must admit that I like the thicker method you show better, but I’ll take this as a learning experience and try the more authentic method on the next build 

 

Best

Tim

Current Build: Amati HMS Fly, First Time Builder, 2020

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  • 2 months later...

Hi all

 

It has been quite some time since my last post.  Been quite busy with other projects as well as getting engaged and planning a wedding.  
 

During this time I have still been slowly working and have made a bit of progress.  I have completed some of the standing rigging including a few of the stays and the shrouds.  I worked tonight on the jeer types and I’m quite satisfied with the crossing rope look.A753974D-FE4F-4B99-ACDF-6E033BE283BC.thumb.jpeg.9bcab64116a1c0f1bbd034d0469636cb.jpeg16ADF424-2D4E-45C5-A429-03090EF5A5CD.thumb.jpeg.a8979f98368c52b63292b4e76463edbb.jpegAC057DBE-3C22-4D41-AA12-77DBE663870E.thumb.jpeg.8c260a0cf89844d1f4197957213a1f9d.jpeg

 

Overall I think it’s starting to come together nicely!  Just wanted to share my progress 

 

have a great night 

Tim

Current Build: Amati HMS Fly, First Time Builder, 2020

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That's looking good Tim. And congratulations on your engagement.

Richard

 

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AL's Endeavour,  Corel's BellonaAmati's Xebec,  Billing's Roar Ege, Panart's Armed Launch

Ships' Boats - Vanguard 1:64 and Master Korabel 1:72

 Alexander Arbuthnot,  Christiaan Brunings,  Pevenseall by World of Paperships

HMS Pegasus by Victory

Captain John Smith's Shallop by Pavel Nitikin

Rumpler "Taube" 1911 by HMV

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She does have a nice look about her Tim, and incidentally I quite like the look of a model completed with just lower masts and rigging in place, convenient where space is an issue.

 

Congratulations on your forthcoming all important 'project'. 🥂

 

  Later this month it will be 50 years and many models completed in my case, I do hope your  wife to be is sympatico with your  modelling interests, as mine has been over all these years. 🙂

 

B.E.

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18 hours ago, Richard44 said:

That's looking good Tim. And congratulations on your engagement.

 

14 hours ago, Blue Ensign said:

She does have a nice look about her Tim, and incidentally I quite like the look of a model completed with just lower masts and rigging in place, convenient where space is an issue.

 

Congratulations on your forthcoming all important 'project'. 🥂

 

  Later this month it will be 50 years and many models completed in my case, I do hope your  wife to be is sympatico with your  modelling interests, as mine has been over all these years. 🙂

 

B.E.


thanks for the congratulations and ship encouragement! I appreciate the looks. 
 

@Blue Ensignshe is very supportive of the modeling and I am very thankful for that :) she’s a keeper 

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Hey Tim, first off, congratulations on your engagement!  Best wishes to you both!

 

Your Fly is coming along spectacularly.  Even more impressive is that this is your first model, wow!  I hadn't realized that Chuck sells lantern kits.  I might need to get one of those for my Pegasus.

Mike

 

Current Wooden builds:  Amati/Victory Pegasus  MS Charles W. Morgan  Euromodel La Renommèe  

 

Plastic builds:    SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48  Five Star Yaeyama 1/700  Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama  Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32  Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72  IJN Notoro 1/700  Akitsu Maru 1/700

 

Completed builds :  Caldercraft Brig Badger   Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle  Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700   Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350

F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72  Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48  Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48

Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya  Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16

 

Terminated build:  HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn)  

 

On the shelf:  Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits

 

Future potential scratch builds:  HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)

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First post in a long time (again) but I’ve made more forward progress !  I have been able to complete the lower shrouds and ratlines as well as the Catharpins, platforms with railings, the additional masts for the lifeboat, and the forward portion of the crowsfeet.  I was able to take some learning experiences from these processes to know what to do/not do for my next ship.  There were some areas with the Catharpins that I just did not leave enough room to work around but the effect works just the same. 

 

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I hope everyone has a happy Halloween! 🎃 

Tim

Current Build: Amati HMS Fly, First Time Builder, 2020

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On 8/6/2021 at 12:23 PM, Landlubber Mike said:

I hadn't realized that Chuck sells lantern kits

 

  Hey Mike - I just visited Chuck's place for a few cannons and he has quite a few new goodies since I'd been there last.  The lantern (which I got for my Pegasus as well) is pretty sweet.  The down side of course is that the more I look around the more it ends up becoming pretty easy to fund Chuck's Roth IRA.  😛 

 

  Really nice work on this Fly Tim - I concur with the others, this is impressive on its own, but especially as a first model.

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  • 2 months later...

Hi all

 

its been another 2 months since I posted, but I’ve gotten a lot done!  All shrouds and rat lines are completed as well as a good portion of the standing rigging.  All of the backstays are unglued at the moment so that I can get behind them if needed. 
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I am really enjoying this portion of the build so far 

 

happy new year to all.  Here’s to a better 2022 

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Hi all

 

after another decent amount of time and a small sprinkle of covid at the beginning of the year, a lot of progress has been made again.  I have completed all of the yard assemblies and have attached a few of them so far.  I am not sure that all lines will run exactly as they should but so far it looks nice to my eye! 
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I can see the finish line approaching.   Can’t wait to see the final product sitting on my bench top 


 

happy Tuesday! 

 

Current Build: Amati HMS Fly, First Time Builder, 2020

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I just found your build log, Tim, and your work on this beautiful model is impressive. She's going  to be a showpiece!

Bob Garcia

"Measure once, cuss twice!"

 

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Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models

Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28

 

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Hey Tim - looking great!

 

One piece of advice - when I can see the finish line is about the time I get excited and start rushing little things.  Don’t forget to take your time and stay patient until the very end. It’ll pay off with details.

 

Nice work.

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